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9031 | 65.25% |
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460 | 3.32% |
| Waluigi |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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shadowman mk2 posted:Has anyone heard anything else about Zen Pinball 2? Didn't Nintendo direct say it was supposed to come out in February? It's out over here in Europe, is it not in the US yet?
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Mar 5, 2013 17:36
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Yeah still not out here, even after announcing it'd be in February in the Nintendo Direct last month. Last I saw Zen had a post on Facebook saying they were working with (...or waiting on) Nintendo about it.
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Mar 5, 2013 18:06
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greatn posted:It could have a port of the first and be a Deus ex Collection, it could have some other Sqenix acquired property and be some kind of Square Enix presents Western Gaming Selects Authoritative Edition Id buy the hell out of that. Have your body on the gamepad for dynamic injuries. Hotbar of items on gamepad. Man, I want that way more then HR.
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Mar 5, 2013 18:10
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Sonic All Stars Racing is pretty drat fun. If you're playing on the GamePad. If you're on a Wiimote it's an exercise in frustration.
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Mar 5, 2013 20:41
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Bobnumerotres posted:As meme-y as this is, yeah, I don't see who this is going to sell to. Everyone who wanted to try Deus Ex already did, who would they market it to? Especially if they intended to sell it at full price, I can't imagine anyone buying it. Who said it was going to be full price? I mean, it might be, but why are we so sure of that at this point? SyHopeful posted:Sonic All Stars Racing is pretty drat fun. Just a wiimote is quite impossible, but with a nunchuk it isnt' too bad.
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Mar 5, 2013 20:50
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theflyingorc posted:Just a wiimote is quite impossible, but with a nunchuk it isnt' too bad.
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Mar 5, 2013 21:03
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theflyingorc posted:Who said it was going to be full price? I mean, it might be, but why are we so sure of that at this point? I didn't even know a nunchuk was an option. Thanks! Minidust posted:Does the lack of analog triggers for acceleration/braking hurt it? I sold my Xbox copy of NFS in favor of the upcoming Wii version, so I'm wondering how much I'll notice a thing like that. Of course, Mario Kart never had analog pedals, and that never felt weird to me so I'm probably worrying for nothing. Nah. Just like Mario Kart, brake/accelerator modulation isn't a very important component to successful driving.
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Mar 5, 2013 21:11
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On some of the more difficult challenges you will likely wish you could ease off the gas just a little while drifting, but considering how infrequent this is, just letting go of gas for a second or tapping it a few times works fine. That certainly wouldn't fly if you needed to do it more often, though.
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Mar 5, 2013 21:22
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Minidust posted:Does the lack of analog triggers for acceleration/braking hurt it? I sold my Xbox copy of NFS in favor of the upcoming Wii version, so I'm wondering how much I'll notice a thing like that. Of course, Mario Kart never had analog pedals, and that never felt weird to me so I'm probably worrying for nothing. It would be nice to have every once in a while, but it really isn't the biggest deal. Most racers are designed for you to hold it down 100% of the time anyway. Need For Speed might be less forgiving than a Kart Racer, though.
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Mar 5, 2013 21:57
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theflyingorc posted:It would be nice to have every once in a while, but it really isn't the biggest deal. Most racers are designed for you to hold it down 100% of the time anyway.
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Mar 6, 2013 17:05
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I wouldn't worry too much about it, analog triggers didn't matter much in Hot Pursuit, might as well have played that one with digital buttons since most of the time you're just on/off them 100%. Drifts could be initiated by light braking which would be a problem, if they couldn't also be done by just letting off the gas for a split second. Only driving game I can think of coming up where it'd be a problem (...only other announced driving game period?) is Project CARS, and even that one might be alright since one of the testers is Nic Hamilton, who plays racing games with gas/brake on digital buttons on a wheel cause his physical condition makes pedals uncomfortable (meanwhile his race car has some specially modified ones iirc).
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Mar 6, 2013 18:10
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Any game which is designed to simulate real driving as much as possible in effort to attract players who like that sort of thing will want analog triggers. Most other games with driving can usually do without. I still kinda wish that the gamepad had them though. I am very happy with the current triggers but I like how analog feels more.
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Mar 6, 2013 18:12
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The pro controller's digital triggers are the nicest feeling things in the world and maybe that's an okay tradeoff. Clicky click click.
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Mar 6, 2013 18:14
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Could just do it like GT5, make the right analog stick control the throttle and breaks. Worked fine for me.
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Mar 6, 2013 18:21
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Xavier434 posted:Any game which is designed to simulate real driving as much as possible in effort to attract players who like that sort of thing will want analog triggers. Most other games with driving can usually do without. I still kinda wish that the gamepad had them though. I am very happy with the current triggers but I like how analog feels more. We all played racing games with digital gas buttons for years, I can't even think of the last racing game I played that wasn't designed to just hold the gas the entire time.
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Mar 6, 2013 18:53
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Astro7x posted:We all played racing games with digital gas buttons for years, I can't even think of the last racing game I played that wasn't designed to just hold the gas the entire time. Playing a GT/Forza style game with digital gas and brakes sounds like it would be disastrous. e: I may be biased though, since I actually use a racing wheel for those games and even going back to a controller makes it weird for me 
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Mar 6, 2013 18:56
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Anybody know what the purpose of today's system update is? Is it all backend stuff?
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Mar 6, 2013 19:21
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That Turkey Story posted:Anybody know what the purpose of today's system update is? Is it all backend stuff? It's all backend stuff and even then no one's sure what exactly it did. I don't understand why Nintendo doesn't have patch notes like everyone else. 
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Mar 6, 2013 19:24
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Crowbear posted:Playing a GT/Forza style game with digital gas and brakes sounds like it would be disastrous. I play GT5 just fine with buttons, and that was pretty much the only way to play GT 1-4 if you didn't have a wheel. Yes the option is there for right stick but I know no-one who ever uses it because it feels too much like driving an RC car.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:31
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njsykora posted:I play GT5 just fine with buttons, and that was pretty much the only way to play GT 1-4 if you didn't have a wheel. Yes the option is there for right stick but I know no-one who ever uses it because it feels too much like driving an RC car. The PS3 and PS2 both have analog face buttons.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:37
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The travel distance on those things are so short that they might as well be digital.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:48
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Astro7x posted:We all played racing games with digital gas buttons for years, I can't even think of the last racing game I played that wasn't designed to just hold the gas the entire time. It really depends on the game and what you want out of it. Forza is a great example. Some players are perfectly happy playing Forza just as you described, but there is also a really big fan base of Forza players who are really into cars in general. These kinds of people tend to appreciate analogue in racing games because it gives them a better sense of control which is the exact kind of thing they want when racing and driving actual cars too.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:50
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I don't get the priorities here, but I guess it's cheaper and such:Eurogamer posted:Miyamoto says adding NFC integration to Wii U is a greater priority than dual GamePad support Unless Nintendo is directly catering to Activision or, I guess Disney, I fail to see how NFC could get priority, but Nintendo might have something up their collective sleeve.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:54
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MechaCrash posted:The travel distance on those things are so short that they might as well be digital. The pressure sensitivity worked fine for me in PS2 driving games and for CQC in MGS3  Iacen posted:I don't get the priorities here, but I guess it's cheaper and such: I can't imagine dual gamepad support is high on their priority list considering how few people would be willing to buy a second $150 controller to take advantage of it. e: Oh hey he actually says that. Crowbear fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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Mar 6, 2013 19:55
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Skylanders > Dual gamepad support when it comes to revenues I don't doubt. I also wouldn't be surprised if Nintendo has been obligated to do this for a while and they are nearing their deadline.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:57
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NFC is built into the controllers people already have. Dual Gamepad support involves asking people to spend a bunch of money on a second controller. It's pretty obvious which one they're better-positioned, business-wise, to focus on and get people using.
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Mar 6, 2013 19:58
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The way that article describes NFC in games reminds me of the GameBoy e-reader cards actually. I bought a bunch of those. 
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Mar 6, 2013 20:09
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At least with NFC built in they have to support it in some way, right?
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Mar 6, 2013 20:10
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Baseless speculation: Zelda and 3D-Mario will have to do with the NFC.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:12
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Alteisen posted:At least with NFC built in they have to support it in some way, right? I can't imagine they're actively working on it without having something in mind. I can't think of any really compelling applications for it other than "POKEMON FIGURES SKYLANDERS STYLE" which I don't think will ever actually happen.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:14
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So I brought home the Wii U! So far I really dig it, but spending a few hours setting everything up wasn't something I expected. Just trying to get Netflix to work resulted in the console freezing. Luckily, the third paragraph down provided the fix: http://techforums.nintendo.com/thread/17583
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Mar 6, 2013 20:14
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Is there a use for NFC that isn't basically on-disc DLC? That's really all I can think of.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:15
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Iacen posted:I don't get the priorities here, but I guess it's cheaper and such: Honestly, I'm 90% sure it's because it's currently a cash cow for Activision, other companies are following, and it's something that could be easily integrated into the game pad without requiring an additional peripheral. I'd guess that they're looking for the most cost effective way to repurpose the built in communications functions on the game pad to support something that people could use. As a business consideration this is low cost/high reward making it a no-brainer on Nintendo's part. And they're not abandoning dual game pads. Nintendo is a big company, they can do both even if more resources are being put toward NFC. LividLiquid posted:Is there a use for NFC that isn't basically on-disc DLC? That's really all I can think of. It's to sell people stuff they don't need... er... to "enhance the game play experience." Basically Activision has found a way to make obscene piles of cash and other companies like Disney are already pushing into the same concept. At least Nintendo putting it into the gamepad itself will be benefit to consumers over requiring a peripheral to go with all of their plastic statues. Random Stranger fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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Mar 6, 2013 20:15
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Crowbear posted:I can't imagine they're actively working on it without having something in mind. I can't think of any really compelling applications for it other than "POKEMON FIGURES SKYLANDERS STYLE" which I don't think will ever actually happen. Zelda WiiU has no dungeon items, you have to create your inventory by scanning household objects
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Mar 6, 2013 20:16
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quote:analog triggers for racing games I can't believe this is even a thing you are arguing about, there is no reason for them not to exist and it's painfully obvious that they would be a great option to have. No matter how much "but it works just fine for me" anecdotal evidence you stack up, the fact is that analog is a great thing for racing games (and others). Quit defending every single thing Nintendo does.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:17
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KimT posted:Zelda WiiU has no dungeon items, you have to create your inventory by scanning household objects Legend of Zelda: Skyward Pillow
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Mar 6, 2013 20:19
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Crowbear posted:I can't imagine they're actively working on it without having something in mind. I can't think of any really compelling applications for it other than "POKEMON FIGURES SKYLANDERS STYLE" which I don't think will ever actually happen. If they released pokemon skylanders or whatever, they might as well print money. They have to know this. I can't image them not doing it.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:19
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Crowbear posted:I can't imagine they're actively working on it without having something in mind. I can't think of any really compelling applications for it other than "POKEMON FIGURES SKYLANDERS STYLE" which I don't think will ever actually happen. Why in the world do you not think this is a thing that will happen? They could also do what Disney is doing and leverage all their properties in something. Heck, they might have been working on it but pulled back to think things through when Disney made their announcement. Mickey Mouse is probably literally the only icon more valuable than Mario.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:27
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MrFlibble posted:If they released pokemon skylanders or whatever, they might as well print money. They have to know this. I can't image them not doing it. Nintendo already has a million way to print money in place, and a billion more they haven't used yet.
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Mar 6, 2013 20:29
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LividLiquid posted:Is there a use for NFC that isn't basically on-disc DLC? That's really all I can think of. Yeah, you have your pokemon statue. You level him up. Take him over to your friends house and NFC it into his WiiU. Your pokemon with your levels and stats and whatnot is there. It ties stuff to the object. (Dont lose it)
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