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door Door door posted:Don't know about private companies, but it's actually illegal to ship alcohol through the USPS. Unfortunately. I get my booze shipped to me through something. And I always have to mention the Manhattan Rye whenever rye comes up. Favorite by far.
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Smokewagon posted:NightConqueror is correct, Rye is on the upswing. A few other good Rye's are Redemption Hi Rye and Sazerac to go along with NightConqueror's suggestions. TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 08:54 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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kidsafe posted:There's Redemption High Rye Bourbon and then there's Redemption Rye. The latter is quite good for something barely 2-years-old. My only issue is all the 95% rye whiskeys are based on the same LDI recipe. Any differentiation between Templeton, Bulleit, Redemption, Willett, etc. is pretty much in the wood and length of maturation. Speaking of Rye, LDI, etc., I frequently pull this article up: http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2012/10/guide-to-rye-whiskey-cocktail-101-basics-what-is-rye-how-is-it-made-brands.html
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ChickenArise posted:Speaking of Rye, LDI, etc., I frequently pull this article up: http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2012/10/guide-to-rye-whiskey-cocktail-101-basics-what-is-rye-how-is-it-made-brands.html Welp, that's pretty interesting. I assume most distilleries don't bother to try and make their own rye because of how much of a pain in the rear end it is to get 95% rye to ferment.
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ChickenArise posted:Speaking of Rye, LDI, etc., I frequently pull this article up: http://drinks.seriouseats.com/2012/10/guide-to-rye-whiskey-cocktail-101-basics-what-is-rye-how-is-it-made-brands.html Great article. I haven't had any of the LDI ryes except for the bulleit once a long time ago. Liquor store just opened up by me and carries a few of them. Maybe redemption for my next choice rye.
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A few pages ago someone asked about the history of Canadian whisky. I can give a short history of rye whiskey that I learned from my uncle, who recently started his own rye distillery. Back before Prohibition, Pennsylvania rye whiskey was considered one of the finest spirits in the world, and millions of gallons of it were distilled every year. At Prohibition, all of that capacity picked up and moved north of the border. After Prohibition, some of them moved back to PA, but they weren't ever really able to match their previous quality. They ended up getting into price wars with the Canadians, they sacrificed their brand quality, and they all went out of business by the 90s. So anyway my uncle started his own rye in PA, using locally sourced organic grains and poo poo, it's cool as hell. It's available in a bunch of states but hes still pretty small. I've spotted it at a few shops and bars in DC where I live though. Anyways it's got a very smooth taste and what I would describe as a round, golden, sweet spicyness. I was usually more of an Irish drinker but whatever it's good. It's called "Dad's Hat Pennsylvania Rye Whiskey" and it runs about $40. Check it out, or ask me about it I guess, or whatever.
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# ? Mar 8, 2013 15:45 |
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Cool! Can you shed a light on the mashbill? How much % of rye is in there?
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# ? Mar 8, 2013 15:50 |
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80% rye, 15% malted barley, and 5% malted rye. Its aged in new white oak quarter casks from Georgia iirc, I have one in my living room with fifteen gallons of homebrewed beer hanging out in it.
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Thanks, sounds good. Another question: How long ago did he start doing this? (i.e. how old is the spirit currently on market?) Here on the other side of the atlantic it's very difficult to get good US made spirit like bourbon, let alone decent rye. I'd love to try it sometime, if I can find it.
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Well the first commercial release hit store shelves about a year ago, as I recall, and i believe anything out there now is aged six months in small barrels. So he started full production back in August or September of 2011. He might have already started selling his 2-year aged batches, I'm not really sure when they'll be ready if not. I don't know when it will be available internationally :|
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Continuing on my journey to find a blended scotch I like, I've turned to the old classics. I ended up getting a bottle of J & B from a family member, and basically, im glad I didn't pay for it. Not that it's a bad drink but it's just lacking overall. It doesn't really have any layered flavor, it's lighter yellow than bushmills(irish, I know, im just using a comparison) and nothing in the overall flavor profile does anything to mask the bitterness of fusel alcohol. The bottling is cool though.
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Politicalrancor posted:Continuing on my journey to find a blended scotch I like, I've turned to the old classics. I ended up getting a bottle of J & B from a family member, and basically, im glad I didn't pay for it. Not that it's a bad drink but it's just lacking overall. It doesn't really have any layered flavor, it's lighter yellow than bushmills(irish, I know, im just using a comparison) and nothing in the overall flavor profile does anything to mask the bitterness of fusel alcohol. The bottling is cool though. If you're looking at blended scotch, you definitely need to try Compass Box's Great King Street. It made me a believer.
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NightConqueror posted:Just the opposite. Rye whiskey is currently the hot spirit in the US and a lot of distillers are scrambling to boost up stocks of rye whiskey. Other distilleries which haven't ever done rye before are getting into it, like Jack Daniels, George Dickel. We're also seeing a lot of new brands from the big boys, like Knob Creek Rye. Rye whiskey is a hot and spicy liquor which lends it self to cocktails like the Manhattan, the Old Fashioned and many others. On its own many rye whiskies are just as distinctive and enjoyable as bourbons. Probably just less popular in the UK I guess, it does seem to be easier to get Scottish and Irish whiskey here than US/ Canadian ones (surprising, that...). I haven't been able to find any ryes in my local supermarkets or off-licenses, but there are some online stores which have the Rittenhouse and Bulliet (assuming that's the Bulliet '95' right?) so I'll probably order one of those two.
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NightConqueror posted:If you're looking at blended scotch, you definitely need to try Compass Box's Great King Street. It made me a believer. The reviews sound really good and Ill definitely check it out. Mostly, I'm becoming increasingly disappointed by "mass marketed" blended scotchs, because I can't see why they're at all popular.
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Politicalrancor posted:The reviews sound really good and Ill definitely check it out. Mostly, I'm becoming increasingly disappointed by "mass marketed" blended scotchs, because I can't see why they're at all popular. Poor quality is also not mark exclusive to mass-market blends. There are plenty of awful single malts out there.
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I grabbed a bottle of Four Roses Small Batch yesterday........it's not going to last long. NOM Also, RED ALERT at any Total Wine they have shitloads (20+ bottles) of Rittenhouse Rye.......at least in Sacramento/Roseville in NorCal. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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NightConqueror posted:If you're looking at blended scotch, you definitely need to try Compass Box's Great King Street. It made me a believer. Agree, you definitely need to try just about anything by Compass box. I was at a tasting a few weeks back, and they gave out 6 different expressions, and none of them were a dissapointment. Smokewagon fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Mar 9, 2013 |
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kidsafe posted:Blends are specifically designed around consistency and general acceptance. Great King Street doesn't move away from that paradigm, but Compass Box does emphasize the quality of its wood and has a distinct house-style. I just don't understand how it's roundly accepted. It's probably more that it's not appealing to my palate. I probably come off pretty negative too but this is a fun experiment and I only know how to review negatively because I'm dumb. Trust me, even when I'm not impressed by the flavor, I'm ok because I'm drinking booze.
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# ? Mar 9, 2013 00:38 |
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To be fair, regular J & B is pretty gross straight up. Gotta mix that poo poo.
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# ? Mar 9, 2013 03:58 |
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I wouldn't go so far as to say gross, just that it has no flavor at all. Like, absolutely none.
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# ? Mar 9, 2013 05:28 |
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For my bottom-shelf mixing scotch I go with Old Smuggler. It's great because - it's cheap - it's better than J&B and at least as tolerable as Dewar's - Moominpappa would approve - it's called Old Smuggler, what more do you want?
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Stultus Maximus posted:For my bottom-shelf mixing scotch I go with Old Smuggler. It's great because I'll throw Teacher's into the mix, for a decent blend it's about $25, so maybe not quite bottom shelf. I've also heard that Ballantine’s and White Horse are decent, but have never tried them. Anyone have an opinion on either one?
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# ? Mar 9, 2013 19:30 |
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Ballantine's is terrible. White Horse, well I've heard some good things but can't comment on it myself. A decent blend is Pig's Nose. It's a bit overly sweet but has almost none of the offensive rubbing alcohol and chemical notes cheap blends tend to have. I don't know about availability though. I've also heard some good things about Black & White, although again, no personal experience. My personal choices: -Black Grouse -Black Label -Black Bottle -Té Bheagh These are all in the smoky category. For the more smoother varieties the aforementioned Pig's Nose, or try some Chivas Regal.
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# ? Mar 9, 2013 19:40 |
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Black Bull 12yr is nice as well, but pricier.
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# ? Mar 9, 2013 22:11 |
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Had some 2012 William Larue Weller reserve tonight, holy poo poo what a revelation in bourbon.
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Huge_Midget posted:Had some 2012 William Larue Weller reserve tonight, holy poo poo what a revelation in bourbon. Hell yeah. Weller Antique (which I'm pretty sure is the same thing, only bottled at 107 proof instead of 90) is my personal favorite wheated bourbon. It seems impossible that something that high in proof should be so pleasant to drink without water.
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Huge_Midget posted:Had some 2012 William Larue Weller reserve tonight, holy poo poo what a revelation in bourbon. Definitely a glorious bottle. It's my top choice in bourbon right now.
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Devil Wears Wings posted:Hell yeah. Weller Antique (which I'm pretty sure is the same thing, only bottled at 107 proof instead of 90) is my personal favorite wheated bourbon. It seems impossible that something that high in proof should be so pleasant to drink without water. I'm fairly certain he is talking about the Buffalo Trace Antique Collection's William Larue Weller Reserve. It's bottled at barrel strength (123.4 Proof), and is unfiltered. More Info: http://www.greatbourbon.com/great-bourbons edit: The George T. Stagg from the same collection is pretty drat good as well.
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I didn't see this here. A fantastic read in the New Yorker about Bruichladdich Islay whisky. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/02/11/130211fa_fact_sanneh?currentPage=all
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I like Islay whisky, the smoke & iodine taste. I've tasted so far bowmore darkest, tempest & 18yo. Can you recommand me another one ? I would like to taste something stronger (if possible).
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Try some Ardbeg or Laphroaig.
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My roommate picked up some Old Granddad 114 and that is a delicious bourbon. Amazingly smooth and composed for a Sykes-proof whiskey, and totally affordable. The bottle he got was like $27.
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Kenning posted:My roommate picked up some Old Granddad 114 and that is a delicious bourbon. Amazingly smooth and composed for a Sykes-proof whiskey, and totally affordable. The bottle he got was like $27. Funny you mention OGD. Apparently they just dropped the proof on their standard bottle from 86 to 80 without any hoopla. The 100 and 114 proofers won't be touched. I like to keep a bottle of the BiB around as it's extremely affordable and has a really high rye content. Really tasty stuff.
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Kenning posted:My roommate picked up some Old Granddad 114 and that is a delicious bourbon. Amazingly smooth and composed for a Sykes-proof whiskey, and totally affordable. The bottle he got was like $27. OGD 114 is good, I always have a bottle of it (as well as OGD BiB) in the cabinet. It is becoming more popular lately, some even half-jokingly say they wish people would stop talking about it as they are afriad it will get hard to find. Never had any problems though, and one store I visit often just recently just sarted carrying it this year.
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Any thoughts on unpeated Islay whiskies? The two I'm looking at currently are Bruichladdich The Laddie 10 and Bunnahabhain 12. I feel like as a whisky enthusiast I have to try Bruichladdich at some point - or at least before the quality drops after they're forced to double their production.
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Went looking through my local bottle shop and found that they had Black Bottle after having about 2 years where I couldn't find it anywhere in Australia. Snapped it up quick smart. I'm finding it pretty smooth and pretty deep. Definitely punches above its price point.
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NightConqueror posted:Any thoughts on unpeated Islay whiskies? The two I'm looking at currently are Bruichladdich The Laddie 10 and Bunnahabhain 12. I feel like as a whisky enthusiast I have to try Bruichladdich at some point - or at least before the quality drops after they're forced to double their production.
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Finally stumbled across a bottle of Pig's Nose earlier this week and I'm liking it quite a bit. The price is just right as well. I managed to find it after my friend dragged me to a Binny's about 30 minutes away, saying it had the best selection in the area. Holy hell was he right. I'm definitely going to have to make the pilgrimage again when I'm wanting to try something new. I had to settle with Pig's Nose mostly because of the price (I also walked away with a bottle of mead... I thought that stuff was impossible to find around here.) This was in Alqonquin, in case there are any northern Illinois goons in here.
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# ? Mar 14, 2013 14:30 |
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Could the OP be updated if there is anything that needs updating? I am using it as a reference for things to try and buy to cut my teeth on and some of this stuff seems a bit up there for a bottle,this may just be regional fuckery, but my concern in honest.
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Herr Tog posted:Could the OP be updated if there is anything that needs updating? I am using it as a reference for things to try and buy to cut my teeth on and some of this stuff seems a bit up there for a bottle,this may just be regional fuckery, but my concern in honest. Must be regional fuckery. That list is all entry level stuff except for a couple bottles. What do the prices look like by you on some of those choices?
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