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Is there some aesthetic reason they try to keep Kirk out of the captain's shirt in these movies? Like the yellow/gold isn't appealing for a main character to have? I can understand why he wouldn't be in one for the first movie, but it seems like the new one is designed to keep him out of the captain's shirt as much as possible.
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Mar 10, 2013 20:48
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:The Captain's Shirt? "Mr. Spock, I brought you this bar code. I hope you feel better soon."
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Mar 10, 2013 21:30
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I guess I just mean the command color shirt then.
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Mar 11, 2013 00:42
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Kingtheninja posted:I guess I just mean the command color shirt then. Kirk rarely ever wears a shirt in the original series, it gets in the way of his double fisted punches.
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Mar 11, 2013 02:11
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It's a valid concern, though. I mean, we're supposed to be seeing the adventures of Captain Kirk ... and these movies go out of their way to keep the Captain out of command gold. It's frustrating, too, because I go just a little gay for Chris Pine when I see him wearing the gold tunic.
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Mar 11, 2013 03:07
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My absolute favorite part of the '09 Star Trek film was the end when Pine strides onto set with the command gold uniform on and kind of belches out "Bones!" He was just so drat Kirk!
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Mar 11, 2013 03:20
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Evil Sagan posted:My absolute favorite part of the '09 Star Trek film was the end when Pine strides onto set with the command gold uniform on and kind of belches out "Bones!" He was just so drat Kirk! I went YESSSS when I saw that. Fantastic moment.
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Mar 11, 2013 12:59
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Kingtheninja posted:Is there some aesthetic reason they try to keep Kirk out of the captain's shirt in these movies? Like the yellow/gold isn't appealing for a main character to have? I can understand why he wouldn't be in one for the first movie, but it seems like the new one is designed to keep him out of the captain's shirt as much as possible. I suspect there is. Like the art directors don't think the command gold is a good color for Pine. It does seem to make him look a bit shorter, I think.
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Mar 11, 2013 13:36
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Evil Sagan posted:My absolute favorite part of the '09 Star Trek film was the end when Pine strides onto set with the command gold uniform on and kind of belches out "Bones!" He was just so drat Kirk! That was the one and only moment in the movie when I felt like Pine said "gently caress it" and went for his best Shatner impression, and it worked perfectly.
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Mar 11, 2013 21:36
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Timby posted:That was the one and only moment in the movie when I felt like Pine said "gently caress it" and went for his best Shatner impression, and it worked perfectly. I'm with you on that. It definitely seemed like the only overt Shatner impression he tried the whole movie.
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Mar 11, 2013 23:21
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The Shatner really comes out when he's irritated, like when he snaps "STOP IT" while Bones is injecting him.
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Mar 11, 2013 23:22
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I think there's a third Shatner moment: when he and Spock get on Future Spock's ship and Spock is all like "very low chance of success" and Pine interrupts him and tells him "it'll work!" The hints of Shatner are jussssst the correct amount and really make the movie for me.
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Mar 11, 2013 23:34
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Pine eating the apple on the bridge during the Kobyashi test was peak Shatner.
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Great_Gerbil posted:I suspect there is. Like the art directors don't think the command gold is a good color for Pine. It does seem to make him look a bit shorter, I think. I'm pretty new to the whole Star Trek thing, but isn't this why they changed the captain shirts to red when the Next Generation started up? Something about Patrick Stewart looking like poo poo in them.
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Mar 12, 2013 01:45
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echoplex posted:Pine eating the apple on the bridge during the Kobyashi test was peak Shatner. 
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The Warszawa posted:I'm pretty new to the whole Star Trek thing, but isn't this why they changed the captain shirts to red when the Next Generation started up? Something about Patrick Stewart looking like poo poo in them.
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Mar 12, 2013 03:57
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If I remember the commentary, Abrahms said the Kirk eating the apple during the test (mirroring Shatner's Kirk munching an apple while telling the story of how he passed the test in TWoK) was completely coincidence. I have a feeling it must have been a callback the writers threw in that went over his head.
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Mar 12, 2013 04:32
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It's been a while, but I think Pine said that he read somewhere that anyone eating an apple looks more confident whilst doing so. A non-JJTrek-But-Trek-Movie-Based Question: I don't get Khan's motivation and rationale in Wrath Of Khan. Here's a fiercely independent guy who was once a ruler of a chunk of Earth. Had nothing go wrong on Ceti Alpha V, Kahn would have been offended if Kirk had 'checked up' on him and his people. So why does he blame Kirk when a loving planet explodes, rendering his world a desert? I can explain being pissed in general, but not at Kirk specifically. It seems like the whole plot would make more sense if Khan just wanted a ship to escape the planet, and Kirk was getting in his way. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Mar 12, 2013 |
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Mar 12, 2013 08:10
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Because, like any megalomaniac unaccustomed to recognizing (let alone facing) his own shortcomings and failures, Khan can't possibly be at fault for, among other things, the death of his wife. It has to be that bastard who marooned him on a doomed planet. It helps that he's gone round the bend.
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Mar 12, 2013 08:17
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I can somewhat accept that, but I have some trouble accepting that a Genetic Superman, who is regularly said to be extremely intelligent, would blame a fellow human for a planet exploding. There's round-the-bend, and there's genetically-augmented-pants-on-head.
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Mar 12, 2013 08:54
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Maybe even genetic supermen can have emotions and human qualities like hubris???
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Mar 12, 2013 08:58
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He doesn't blame Kirk for the planet exploding, he blames Kirk for stranding him on the planet next door to the one that exploded.
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Mar 12, 2013 09:32
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I rewatched ST09 for the first time in ages. Kirk gets about 12 head wounds, six in the bar fight, one knockout from spock, hits his head once and a handful of hits during the romulan fights. I hope they keep hitting him in the sequel, it's pretty funny that Kirk is still crap at fighting when everyone else is on hollywood level. My other wish is that Chris Pine gets increasingly overweight throughout the series, but that's less likely.
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MisterBibs posted:I can somewhat accept that, but I have some trouble accepting that a Genetic Superman, who is regularly said to be extremely intelligent, would blame a fellow human for a planet exploding. There's round-the-bend, and there's genetically-augmented-pants-on-head. Because holding a grudge is a rational act.
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Mar 12, 2013 14:01
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MisterBibs posted:I can somewhat accept that, but I have some trouble accepting that a Genetic Superman, who is regularly said to be extremely intelligent, would blame a fellow human for a planet exploding. There's round-the-bend, and there's genetically-augmented-pants-on-head. You kinda missed the bit of the background where the genetically augmented supermen are a bunch of racial supremacists who start a third world war. The reason Star Trek Humans ban genetic augmentation is because in Star Trek it turns out that when you create literal Nazi Supermen then they invariably start acting like Nazi supermen.
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Mar 12, 2013 14:07
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Payndz posted:He doesn't blame Kirk for the planet exploding, he blames Kirk for stranding him on the planet next door to the one that exploded. ...and for not bothering to check up on him. Or anyone one else from Starfleet bothering to do check on him. Dumping the entire crew of the Reliant on that desert planet might have been an extra bit of revenge against Starfleet in general.
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Rocket Ace posted:...and for not bothering to check up on him. Or anyone one else from Starfleet bothering to do check on him. Dumping the entire crew of the Reliant on that desert planet might have been an extra bit of revenge against Starfleet in general. Ya that is exactly what it was. He did have some legitimate grivences, but he went overboard with it. Also when they left him it was not a desert planet, it was just a bit rough.
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Mar 12, 2013 15:39
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MisterBibs posted:It's been a while, but I think Pine said that he read somewhere that anyone eating an apple looks more confident whilst doing so. MisterBibs posted:I can somewhat accept that, but I have some trouble accepting that a Genetic Superman, who is regularly said to be extremely intelligent, would blame a fellow human for a planet exploding. There's round-the-bend, and there's genetically-augmented-pants-on-head. Oh my god.
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well why not posted:I rewatched ST09 for the first time in ages. Kirk gets about 12 head wounds, six in the bar fight, one knockout from spock, hits his head once and a handful of hits during the romulan fights. I hope they keep hitting him in the sequel, it's pretty funny that Kirk is still crap at fighting when everyone else is on hollywood level. My other wish is that Chris Pine gets increasingly overweight throughout the series, but that's less likely. I'm kind of hoping that at some point in Pines run as Kirk there's a moment where he's getting his as handed to him, he suddenly has an "eureka" moment where he puts his hands together in the classic trek Double Fist Slam, and turns the tide. Yes, it would be indefensively retarded, but its a reboot-cum-sequel of a franchise legendary for terrible fight choreography and it would be absolutely hilarious.
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Mar 12, 2013 18:40
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mr. stefan posted:I'm kind of hoping that at some point in Pines run as Kirk there's a moment where he's getting his as handed to him, he suddenly has an "eureka" moment where he puts his hands together in the classic trek Double Fist Slam, and turns the tide. The movie needs to have the fight music from Amok Time. That music is classic and something that everyone remembers.
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And bust out the fancy glaive/q-tips. Sulu got an extending sword, give a extending glaive to Spock. And Kirk can get an extending double-fist, Scotty an extendable bottle of whiskey, and Uhura a collapsable skirt 
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:And bust out the fancy glaive/q-tips. Sulu got an extending sword, give a extending glaive to Spock. And Kirk can get an extending double-fist, Scotty an extendable bottle of whiskey, and Uhura a collapsable skirt  Lirpa
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:And bust out the fancy glaive/q-tips. Sulu got an extending sword, give a extending glaive to Spock. And Kirk can get an extending double-fist, Scotty an extendable bottle of whiskey, and Uhura a collapsable skirt These action figures SELL THEMSELVES
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Mar 13, 2013 10:52
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Aatrek posted:
Krulka! 
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Mar 21, 2013 00:29
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New trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhz4A5BCMAA
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Mar 21, 2013 08:49
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I like how the usual stuffy federation council meeting has been supplanted by a Dr. Strangelove homage.
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Mar 21, 2013 08:55
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This movie is going to have like 25 distinct action sequences. I hope they can fit a story in there somewhere.
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Mar 21, 2013 09:08
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There's a URL hidden in the scene where Carol is in her underwear (clever, that). It leads to a site with a new poster.
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OH COME ON. WE'VE BARELY USED THE ENTERPRISE FOR gently caress SAKES!!
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