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BigFatFlyingBloke posted:With isometric RPGs I guess it's more that while multiplayer is something you can effectively build in from the get go and make work it's not really a core gameplay mechanic, thus with a small budget you either have to take resources away from developing the core experience or shoe-horn in a half-assed multiplayer. Both of which are things modern RPGs, and other games types, suffer from even with much larger budgets. Not only that, but at the end of the day.... who gives a poo poo about multiplayer when it comes to isometric (c)rpgs?Who bought any games in the Fallout series, or Baldur's Gate series, or any other similar games, for their multiplayer? Or had this as a dealbreaker? Nobody really wants them, very few people actually care about them, most people would never touch it in the first place. I remember the first time I started to play Arcanum, all I could think was 'how sweet would it be if my and my bros could crack open up couple of beers and XBOX-live that poo poo  'It's not only removing resources from the main project for small developers, it's removing resources from the main project for something no one cares about.
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Yeah, nobody played Diablo 2 in multiplayer... Also, I primarily played Baldur's Gate with friends. I didn't enjoy it as much in singleplayer.
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Mordaedil posted:Yeah, nobody played Diablo 2 in multiplayer... Really? You might genuinely be the first person I've ever seen saying that. Look, I might be wrong, but in my personal experience those games are always about singeplayer not multiplayer, for those around me at least.
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Mar 12, 2013 13:59
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I remember people complaining about Dragon Age 1 not having multiplayer. I'm not going to care one iota if it doesn't have it, but someone always will.
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Mar 12, 2013 14:02
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Twee as gently caress posted:Really? You might genuinely be the first person I've ever seen saying that. It was pretty buggy, difficult to set up, but once you hit a certain stride, it's amazingly fun. Just gotta be careful with how you handle pausing.
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If we're including paypal totals, the latest stretch goal has been met. Now for the long slog to 3 million.Mordaedil posted:Just gotta be careful with how you handle pausing. If you pause, does that pause for everyone? RTwP doesn't really sound like the ideal system for a multiplayer game... Schurik posted:I asked inXile directly, this was their response... Oh, and good to know. Thanks!
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Mar 12, 2013 16:18
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CottonWolf posted:If you pause, does that pause for everyone? RTwP doesn't really sound like the ideal system for a multiplayer game... Of course it pauses for everyone. Yes, it isn't ideal, but it's mostly the mage who needs to use the pause function for shifting through his spell list anyway, the cleric can at least prepare most of his "ohfuck" spells on the go and the fighter never needs to pause to do his job. An added benefit is that you can assign pausing to a single person.
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Mar 12, 2013 18:13
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Mordaedil posted:Yeah, nobody played Diablo 2 in multiplayer... 2) Youre in small company around here I think. 
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Mar 12, 2013 18:14
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FRINGE posted:1) Diablo by comparison was an unchanging story-less grind. "As much" being emphasized here. But then again, I tend to find most games more enjoyable with friends.
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Mar 12, 2013 18:17
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We reached the $250,000 stretch goal already thanks to paypal! We also finally got our 'apology' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwDWx1cAqP4 Want a refund 
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Mar 12, 2013 18:29
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CottonWolf posted:If we're including paypal totals, the latest stretch goal has been met. Now for the long slog to 3 million. We do include PayPal, and 2.5million has been passed. And Colin has apologized for the Big Book of Elves
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Mar 12, 2013 18:30
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Is it just me or does Colin McComb look like Lowtax if Lowtax shaved his head and grew a van dyke mustach? Tell me its not just me, tell me im not going crazy here..
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Mar 12, 2013 18:37
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He looks like Lex Luthor to me. The big plot twist in Tides of Numenara will be that the guy who used your shell is actually Superman and you have to get rid of him once and for all.
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Mar 12, 2013 18:46
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Or maybe...
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Mar 12, 2013 18:51
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Multiplayer would be a cool thing to do in an expansion for these new kickstarted CRPGs if they sell well, but it's totally reasonable that they're not on the table for the initial releases considering the budget constraints.
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Mar 12, 2013 20:03
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doomfunk posted:
He wasted a whole sunday afternoon 10 years ago, and for that Brian Fargo shall suffer... FOREVER  edit: Please, no multiplayer in these games, ever. Sorry to disagree with you :S
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Mar 12, 2013 20:12
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Twee as gently caress posted:We also finally got our 'apology' I know the whole thing's a joke, but that still felt like a terrible "well I'm sorry you got so butthurt"-style non-apology.
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Mar 12, 2013 20:22
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Veib posted:I know the whole thing's a joke, but that still felt like a terrible "well I'm sorry you got so butthurt"-style non-apology.
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Mar 12, 2013 20:31
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I liked it.  The time-lapse bit of him reading and the shot of him drinking should have been combined, though, with ever-more empty bottles appearing behind him as he read.
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Mar 12, 2013 20:45
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Veib posted:I know the whole thing's a joke, but that still felt like a terrible "well I'm sorry you got so butthurt"-style non-apology. He was totally right: if you're the DM, own that table son. Don't let some prissy elf player try to let a book lord over you. Elf-seeking rock falls, all elves die.
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Mar 12, 2013 20:48
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Has anyone drawn the comparison between this game's title and Numa Numa? Because I will be the one to make that comparison, if need be. I'm in for $20.
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Mar 12, 2013 21:11
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I think they should do a followup video of Colin McComb and Chris Avellone discussing elves.
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I SAID LISTEN posted:I think they should do a followup video of Colin McComb and Chris Avellone discussing elves. JE. Sawyer for good measure?  EDIT: Image problems. Mordaedil fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Mar 12, 2013 |
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Mar 12, 2013 21:58
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That's quite a face.
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01011001 posted:That's quite a face. He just really likes elves. Also that Bards Tale game was awesome.
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Veib posted:I know the whole thing's a joke, but that still felt like a terrible "well I'm sorry you got so butthurt"-style non-apology. Yeah, sorry, terrible game design with a smarmy non-apology just made me cancel my pledge.
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Mar 13, 2013 02:41
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It wasn't a particularly funny video, but it sounded like he stood by the decisions he made when writing the book and explained them for the benefit of people who didn't like them, and I like that in a developer- like when Chris Avellone wrote this blog about the decisions that went into Fallout: Dead Money. Maybe have a sense of fun about the whole thing and try to leave the hurt and trauma inflicted on you by "the complete book of elves" in your past?
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Mar 13, 2013 03:00
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Mex posted:He wasted a whole sunday afternoon 10 years ago, and for that Brian Fargo shall suffer... FOREVER I had a hella fun time with those games. As far as ARPG's go, the hack-and-slash plus summons was well done, and the story was cliche-but-funny. AND IT CAME WITH THE CLASSIC BARD'S TALES FOR FREE. Why does everyone give it so much poo poo? I bet these poeple would pay 40+ bucks for just the first three bard's tale games anyway.
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2house2fly posted:It wasn't a particularly funny video, but it sounded like he stood by the decisions he made when writing the book and explained them for the benefit of people who didn't like them, and I like that in a developer- like when Chris Avellone wrote this blog about the decisions that went into Fallout: Dead Money. Maybe have a sense of fun about the whole thing and try to leave the hurt and trauma inflicted on you by "the complete book of elves" in your past? I had no idea there was a "join Elijah" ending. That's great.
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the black husserl posted:He was totally right: if you're the DM, own that table son. Don't let some prissy elf player try to let a book lord over you. Elf-seeking rock falls, all elves die.
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Fenarisk posted:Yeah, sorry, terrible game design with a smarmy non-apology just made me cancel my pledge.
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I didn't know anyone actually thought it was going to be anything other than a jokey video where he makes fun of himself for a few minutes for the internet's amusement.
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Pyradox posted:I didn't know anyone actually thought it was going to be anything other than a jokey video where he makes fun of himself for a few minutes for the internet's amusement. He didn't terribly make fun of himself though? I don't know, maybe I'm just too tired or tone-deaf to get it, but I'm not really seeing it.
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Fenarisk posted:Yeah, sorry, terrible game design with a smarmy non-apology just made me cancel my pledge. Hahahahaha what the gently caress
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antidote posted:Hahahahaha what the gently caress
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Unless he donated something like 1.5 million dollars to the kickstarter, I don't think anyone will be particularly sad about him by this point.
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Fenarisk posted:Yeah, sorry, terrible game design with a smarmy non-apology just made me cancel my pledge. You don't want Torment: the Complete Book of Elves? 
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Mar 13, 2013 07:40
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jammu posted:You don't want Torment: the Complete Book of Elves?
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Fenarisk posted:Yeah, sorry, terrible game design with a smarmy non-apology just made me cancel my pledge. You think you were owed an apology from one of the writers of an RPG rulebook that came out years ago. That's the definition of egotism.
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FRINGE posted:I get to be an elf. Called it. What does one non-elf life matter?
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