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Helicon One posted:Its been a while since I actually picked up a 40K book, what's been released in the last 18 months or so that I should read? The Ahriman: Exile book discussed recently really is quite good. I forget if there's any required reading before that (since I've done it).
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Schneider Heim posted:I liked First and Only more than Ghostmaker, the latter of which was kind of a collection of short stories about each important character. First and Only is simple but I thought the resolutions were pretty clever, and it was never boring to read. Necropolis and the accompanying short story are amazing, though.
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Mar 10, 2013 23:18
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I picked up "Blood of Asaheim" by Chris Wraight, same guy who did "Battle of the Fang", on Friday night, and just finished it a little earlier. If you liked "Fang", which I imagine most people here do, then do yourself a favor and pick this new one. It's great, and it has the Death Guard in it, which never get enough love. The story focuses on a single pack sent to defend a shrine world, little knowing that the fight is far more than what it first seems. While there is plenty of conflict between Space Wolves and Death Guard, the real war goes on between the pack itself, with one member, Ingvar, having just returned from 50 odd years of service with the Deathwatch. It has everything: Space Wolves getting called savages, Sisters of Battle, a Space Marine who lost his faith, and Plague Marines. I feel, however, that it must be the first in a series, or at least is set to have a sequel, since there is one element in the story happens near the beginning, gets a mention near the end, but remains unresolved. That's alright with me, because this was one of the better books from 40K I have read in awhile. Oh, and Wraight has such colorful language when talking about the servants of Nurgle that you might not want to read it while eating. I was lucky enough to be mid bite in a tuna sandwich when the first one appeared in the story. It wasn't as tasty afterwards.
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Mar 10, 2013 23:24
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Helicon One posted:Its been a while since I actually picked up a 40K book, what's been released in the last 18 months or so that I should read? Lord of the Night (ties in a bit with ADB's Night Lords series) Legion of the Damned Battle of the Fang Wrath of Iron And stuff that's being discussed as of the last couple pages I suppose.
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Mar 10, 2013 23:32
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Yeah, I really have no problem with recommending anything by Chris Wraight. I'd also recommend Legion of the Damned, by Rob Sanders. As long as you're cool with a bit of strangeness.
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Mar 11, 2013 03:44
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Atlas Infernal is pretty good as well.
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Mar 11, 2013 13:32
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I finished Wrath of Iron last night. Man, dark is right. Dark, dark, dark story. I then picked up Brotherhood of the Snake, because it looked good. I'm trying to figure out my next book though... what are people's thoughts on these: Angels Exterminatus Siege of Castallax Inquisitor Ascendant Chapter War Battle of the Fang Iron Company For reference, my favorites so far are the Gaunt's Ghosts series and Prospero Burns (go figure).
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Mar 11, 2013 13:58
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SquadronROE posted:I finished Wrath of Iron last night. Man, dark is right. Dark, dark, dark story. I then picked up Brotherhood of the Snake, because it looked good. I'm trying to figure out my next book though... what are people's thoughts on these: The only two I've read are Angel Exterminatus and Battle of the Fang, both of which I thought were good. I've heard that the Siege of Castallax wasn't all that great.
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Mar 11, 2013 14:23
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Pyrolocutus posted:The only two I've read are Angel Exterminatus and Battle of the Fang, both of which I thought were good. I've heard that the Siege of Castallax wasn't all that great. Siege of Castellax is really, really dull, which was extra disappointing considering I rather liked C.L. Werner's Fantasy stuff.
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Mar 11, 2013 14:50
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I'm going to take a break from Gaunt's novels after I finish Necropolis. I was wondering about any books related to the "Rogue Trader" fiction and lore. Any applicable books?
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Mar 11, 2013 15:45
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Siege of Castellax is really, really dull, which was extra disappointing considering I rather liked C.L. Werner's Fantasy stuff. I want to see more Chaos vs. non-Imperium stuff for bolter porn by mediocre authors. That way, I won't be able to tell who will win.
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Mar 11, 2013 15:45
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TasmanianX posted:I'm going to take a break from Gaunt's novels after I finish Necropolis.
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Mar 11, 2013 15:58
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TasmanianX posted:I'm going to take a break from Gaunt's novels after I finish Necropolis. There's Rogue Star and Star of Damocles by Andy Hoare if you can track them down, which are about rogue traders. Can't speak to their quality though.
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Mar 11, 2013 17:58
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Does anyone have a favorit audiodrama?
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Mar 11, 2013 18:43
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They're all pretty meh. Just choose a topic that you're interested in, and go for it. Don't expect anything great, though.
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Mar 11, 2013 18:50
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Mechafunkzilla posted:There's Rogue Star and Star of Damocles by Andy Hoare if you can track them down, which are about rogue traders. Can't speak to their quality though. Rogue star I put down after the first chapter. I think I was bleeding from my eyes.
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Mar 11, 2013 19:50
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They're not listed on the BL site yet for whatever reason, but some of the cover art for future BL releases is incredible. Vulkan Lives especially is whoa. Ben Counter's new Fists novel has a cool sounding plot. Shame most of his books have been utter turd, which sucks as I really enjoyed his first GK novel and I guess his early HH novel.
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Mar 11, 2013 22:06
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ed balls balls man posted:They're not listed on the BL site yet for whatever reason, but some of the cover art for future BL releases is incredible. Vulkan Lives especially is whoa. Ben Counter's new Fists novel has a cool sounding plot. Shame most of his books have been utter turd, which sucks as I really enjoyed his first GK novel and I guess his early HH novel. Link to the cover art?
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Mar 11, 2013 22:23
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Supposedly: from http://www.heresy-online.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1346681 via GIS, but who knows. also: 
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Mar 11, 2013 22:33
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Cream_Filling posted:Supposedly: The idea looks cool but it's written by Nick Kyme 
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Mar 12, 2013 00:13
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Goddamn it Kyme why do you have to ruin everything about the Salamanders for me  Not exactly BL related, but recently got to check out the Ultramarines movie written by Dan Abnett recently. It was alright, better than I expected. Yes, it did take me a long time to do this. The animation felt a bit dated, some of the srs courage and honour-type scenes ground on me a bit, though I am talking about Ultramarines. The boltguns and vehicles sounded and acted right on, loved the Land Speeder depiction. The Apothecary had a few zing lines which I loved and I honestly didn't predict how the story would turn out even with the captain's 'miraculous' (badass) return. John Hurt screaming BURN HERETIC was a great 40k moment all things considered. I'd recommend it for fellow bolter-porn enthusiasts  Pyrolocutus posted:The only two I've read are Angel Exterminatus and Battle of the Fang, both of which I thought were good. Seconding these. Angel Exterminatus is excellent for it's portrayal of Perturabo, Battle of the Fang is pretty good for a number of reasons! Frankly fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Mar 12, 2013 |
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Mar 12, 2013 01:36
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My guilty pleasure recently has been reading the 1d4chan.org wikipedia. They make up a bunch of stuff but on occasion, they manage to write some interesting stuff about the WH40k universe (Khornate Knights, making fun of Grey Knights in general). There's some stuff to avoid though, like the Slaaneeshi page, for obvious reasons.
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Mar 12, 2013 18:15
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Shadowhand00 posted:My guilty pleasure recently has been reading the 1d4chan.org wikipedia. They make up a bunch of stuff but on occasion, they manage to write some interesting stuff about the WH40k universe (Khornate Knights, making fun of Grey Knights in general). There's some stuff to avoid though, like the Slaaneeshi page, for obvious reasons. I like reading bits of the Angry Marines page while doing my best R Lee Ermey impersonation.
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Mar 12, 2013 19:58
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So ADB recently mentioned things he was having a conversation with Abnett about, which included potentially Night Lords, and more interestingly something called Imperium Secundus. BL's been hinting at something big coming for a while now, and I'm wondering whether this is it. Could it be that the fluff is going to move forward slightly? Or will this be covering a part of history untold? Potentially the time after the Heresy, but when the Primarch's were still about? If so, that'd be a ways off, as I'd imagine they don't want to give too much away as to where the Heresy will go (obviously we all know the ultimate ending, but it's in the details that it's still mysterious).
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Mar 13, 2013 11:13
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What does this hinting consist of?
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Mar 13, 2013 13:33
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I wish mediocre-to-bad authors didn't have a monopoly on certain Space Marine chapters. I'd like to read about the Dark Angels, Blood Angels, and Salamanders without their "designated" writers, since it's all but Thorpe, Swallow and Kyme doing all their stories.
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Mar 13, 2013 15:10
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Baron Porkface posted:What does this hinting consist of? Imperium secondus was mentioned in a HH short story as guilliman's plan for beating the heresy, and the next Abnett book is called the unremembered empire. Good guess they are connected. Also Abnett mentioned in an interview he was on something super big and super secret for bl, so secret even mentioning there was a project was close to the line of his Nda. Given his book had already been announced I doubt it and the project are related.
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Mar 13, 2013 15:23
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Fried Chicken posted:Imperium secondus was mentioned in a HH short story as guilliman's plan for beating the heresy, and the next Abnett book is called the unremembered empire. Good guess they are connected. It's going to be the novelization of the Ultramarines movie
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Mar 13, 2013 16:21
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Maybe it'll be a spin-off of 40k where we actually see the timeline move on.
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Mar 13, 2013 17:12
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Mowglis Haircut posted:Could it be that the fluff is going to move forward slightly?
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Mar 13, 2013 17:16
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Folks, the 40K fluff will never move forward. GW has essentially written itself into a corner that it can't get out of - you can add new races, new chapters, new planets, etc., but the Emperor will never leave the Golden Throne and the story won't advance. Any change to the stagnation of the storyline will result in huge repercussions that will simultaneously alienate a large segment of the fans and kill the whole story. There is one central tenet of 40K - the Emperor sits, wasting away on the Throne, and the galaxy maintains a status quo of humanity hanging on by its fingernails while everyone else tries to wipe them out. This is why the Heresy is getting so much attention - GW can do anything it wants, as long as the final outcome remains the same. Rick Priestly, the guy who invented 40K, has said that GW has no interest in ever advancing the story - this is why he tried to do that Gates of Antares project. He wanted a story that would move, not fester.
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berzerkmonkey posted:Folks, the 40K fluff will never move forward. GW has essentially written itself into a corner that it can't get out of - you can add new races, new chapters, new planets, etc., but the Emperor will never leave the Golden Throne and the story won't advance. Any change to the stagnation of the storyline will result in huge repercussions that will simultaneously alienate a large segment of the fans and kill the whole story. Yeah, I agree. I mean, I understand people want things to move, and want resolution, but the fact that things just sit there and fester is like THE central tenet of the setting. I do think that it's annoying that the arbitrary year numbers are now to the point where it's almost the end of the millenium and they've run out of room to add more ticks of the lock, since more petty movement in terms of adding stuff that happens (i.e. stuff like the Eye of Terror campaign, etc.) would be fun, but I feel like it would also be possible (through tricky) tho shift peoples' attention back to like M37 or something and have a sense of progression by getting into stuff happening then. Though the threat of something actually happening, which is useful to spark interest and build dramatic tension, isn't really there if you know the universe doesn't actually end yet, and also there's more work because of continuity. But overall, it's important to note that wanting closure is honestly better than actually getting it, and this is something a lot of people don't seem to understand (especially internet nerds). Mystery and ambiguity are frustrating, but that frustration is good for you and it's what keeps the setting alive.
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Cream_Filling posted:But overall, it's important to note that wanting closure is honestly better than actually getting it, and this is something a lot of people don't seem to understand (especially internet nerds). Mystery and ambiguity are frustrating, but that frustration is good for you and it's what keeps the setting alive.  -  "Gimme answers!"  "I hate your answers! You're assholes for ruining my life!"That's the part I loved about the show - there was poo poo you just didn't know, and the speculation was part of the enjoyment. If you get all your answers, your imagination doesn't get to have any fun, and things just get boring. berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Mar 13, 2013 |
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Mar 13, 2013 20:47
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What if the timeline doesn't move forward, but one of 40k's greatest alluded-to but never spoken of mysteries is solved? In April,  Please note the armrests on his throne, and the significance of the numbers on them.
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Mar 14, 2013 03:02
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Thank the Emperor that Chris Wraight is one of the Good Ones.
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That'd almost be even more annoying.
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Mar 14, 2013 03:34
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I'm not going to get my hopes up, and just assume there's messing with us.
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Mar 14, 2013 03:36
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I'm willing to bet that the references to the lost legions would be more along the lines of "rumours of whispers" as it's been for the HH series so far. Which I don't mind, the Sigillite needs some time in the sun. If it's a full blown legions exposition on an audio book (by the cover) I'll gladly pirate all future BL titles as they have proven to me that they don't actually want my money unless its going to be a $50 ~limited edition hardback~ or a dorky audio book purchase (this is a joke)
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William Bear posted:What if the timeline doesn't move forward, but one of 40k's greatest alluded-to but never spoken of mysteries is solved? EDIT: It's out now - where are you seeing the April release date?
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berzerkmonkey posted:Welp, having known someone who has listened to that audio drama, there are no answers and no closure. Sorry. Oh, you're right. It's purchasable now. http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/the-sigillite-mp3.html That's sad, but ultimately understandable. Maybe the exact facts of the missing primarchs should never be given. It's unlikely it could live up to what people have imagined for themselves. Do they at least say, "Yea, Malcador killed those guys, carved their legion number on their skulls, and mounted them on his chair?"
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