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Zogo posted:I think I understand the concept pretty well of what a "genre film" is but not the antithesis so much. I looked up examples of "films that defy genre" etc. but even the ones listed seem like they could fit somewhat comfortably into a classification of something or another. Brazil is a tricky one. It's sort of like dystopian sci-fi but there's no indication that it's in "the future", it's a black comedy but with a kind of twisted empathy that the genre usually shuns, it's too absurd to be a drama, etc.
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Zogo posted:I think I understand the concept pretty well of what a "genre film" is but not the antithesis so much. I looked up examples of "films that defy genre" etc. but even the ones listed seem like they could fit somewhat comfortably into a classification of something or another. How about something like Paul Sharits' T,O,U,C,H,I,N,G?
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Zogo posted:I think I understand the concept pretty well of what a "genre film" is but not the antithesis so much. I looked up examples of "films that defy genre" etc. but even the ones listed seem like they could fit somewhat comfortably into a classification of something or another. "Drama" is an interesting "genre" because all movies could be argued to be dramatic, so movies that don't exhibit any particular genre convention are considered "dramas." In the end, genres exist so that the sheer volume of existing movies can be easily categorized, and genre films are movies made in the name of categorization, rather than movies categorized.
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Zogo posted:I think I understand the concept pretty well of what a "genre film" is but not the antithesis so much. I looked up examples of "films that defy genre" etc. but even the ones listed seem like they could fit somewhat comfortably into a classification of something or another. F is for Fake often get's classified as a documentary, but too much of it is fictional and tells us it's fictional to count.
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Mar 13, 2013 09:03
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Does there exist anywhere a timeline listing movies in chronological order that most realistically portray human history? I've googled for such a thing, but with little luck.
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Mar 13, 2013 09:14
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Like, if you wanna see Roman times, watch "Spartacus", and the dark ages, watch...(I don't know), etc? Never seen a chart like that, might be interesting.
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Mar 13, 2013 09:30
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Repo Man doesn't fit into a genre. It's a comedy.
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Zogo posted:
Trash Humpers. I suppose you could file it under Horror-Comedy/Erotic Thriller but still doesn't fit all that well. FreudianSlippers fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Mar 13, 2013 |
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Mar 13, 2013 12:08
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Hoping I'm not disturbing your repose here. Trying to find a film I saw an ad for in a theater sometime in the past summer. It was apparently about some enterprise set up to let super rich guys battle terrorists for sport. Ring a bell, anybody? Apparently it made about 0 splash. And if you saw it, was it any good, or have any redeeming qualities?
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Mar 13, 2013 13:09
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Quick questing regarding The Raid:Redemption Do they ever reveal exactly why the lieutenant ordered the raid on Tama's highrise?
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Esroc posted:Does there exist anywhere a timeline listing movies in chronological order that most realistically portray human history? You don't need a whole timeline. Mel Brooks has you covered with just a single movie! Spaceballs!
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effectual posted:I'm not sure where I'd put "Daisies" 1966. TychoCelchuuu posted:Repo Man doesn't fit into a genre. Power of Pecota posted:Jubilee (1978) is one I don't think compartmentalizes very neatly. FreudianSlippers posted:Trash Humpers. I suppose you could file it under Horror-Comedy/Erotic Thriller but still doesn't fit all that well. I haven't seen any of these. But Repo Man isn't a coming-of-age/bildungsroman? I suppose some attributes would be: -atypical characters -distinctive/unique editing -unpredictable/completely unconventional stories -lack of copycat films Skwirl posted:F is for Fake often get's classified as a documentary, but too much of it is fictional and tells us it's fictional to count. Yea, that one was unique in my mind. Although I saw it being compared to Zelig (haven't seen that yet) and Exit Through the Gift Shop. How many films can be similar before a new genre arises? Glass Joe posted:How about something like Paul Sharits' T,O,U,C,H,I,N,G? That one was definitely different when I saw it. I don't know if there are many others like it. scary ghost dog posted:"Drama" is an interesting "genre" because all movies could be argued to be dramatic, so movies that don't exhibit any particular genre convention are considered "dramas." In the end, genres exist so that the sheer volume of existing movies can be easily categorized, and genre films are movies made in the name of categorization, rather than movies categorized. Yea, drama is a catchall. I guess that's one difference. Some filmmakers probably want their films having a convenient label. Maxwell Lord posted:Brazil is a tricky one. It's sort of like dystopian sci-fi but there's no indication that it's in "the future", it's a black comedy but with a kind of twisted empathy that the genre usually shuns, it's too absurd to be a drama, etc. Does dystopian sci-fi have to be in the future though? I thought that one would fit a little with fantasy as well.
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The SituAsian posted:Quick questing regarding The Raid:Redemption They have a conversation about it on the stairs leut. was a dirty cop who was trying to take over Tama's territory with supposed blessing of other crime bosses
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effectual posted:Like, if you wanna see Roman times, watch "Spartacus", and the dark ages, watch...(I don't know), etc? Never seen a chart like that, might be interesting.
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Mar 14, 2013 13:53
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I remember back a long time ago I was contemplating the best way to organize my 1,000+ DVD collection. At some point I thought by genre would be a good idea. Seemed simple enough at first thought. House on Haunted Hill is horror - easy. Office Space is comedy - easy. Army of Darkness... Hmmm, I guess I'll put that one between horror and comedy. Brazil... oh poo poo. Four hours later I needed a Valium. Back to alphabetical.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:03
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Yeah, sorting by genre seems like a nightmare. When you start breaking it down, a surprisingly large amount of films can't neatly fit into any genre. (i.e. Almost every David Lynch film - Horror? Drama? Psychological Thriller? Mystery?)
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Mar 14, 2013 15:17
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David Lynch is his own genre.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:23
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For a while I sorted my movies by genre and then sub-ordered within that chronologically by year, as well as my books by author and my comics by publisher. Now I just don't keep anything in my house sorted at all and get out my obsessive need to organize things at the library.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:26
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The obvious answer is to sort them chronologically by the scene taking place earliest in each movie. So start off with like Ice Age; 2001; 10,000 BC; and end with like I, Robot; Planet of the Apes; Dune. Assume contemporary & non-period/scifi movies take place the year it came out, but account for flashbacks, so if a 20 year old character in a movie from 1976 has a flashback to their first day of school, you'd put it somewhere around 1961. Something like that. 
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Mar 14, 2013 15:28
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Sort by title, ignoring "A" and "The".
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Mar 14, 2013 15:29
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But then you end up scattering, like, your Wes Anderson collection all over the shelf. Sort alphabetically by director if you have more than, uh, three films by the same director and what HUNDU said for the rest.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:32
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As soon as you start doing the director thing, it just becomes a morass of specialized sorting. Just sort by the drat title and keep a binder or something nearby of special groupings.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:34
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I've only got like 20 movies and a bunch of them are things that were given to me (Dream Girls, Hitch) so my organization is basically like a liquor store. Good stuff goes on the top shelf, embarrassing things on the bottom.
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Mar 14, 2013 15:45
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Since I remember everything by it's cover art, I sorted all my stuff by color. I find it instantly and it looks cool on the shelves.
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schwenz posted:Since I remember everything by it's cover art, I sorted all my stuff by color. I'm not sure if you're serious, but I truly attempted this once. It's a really, really stupid idea.
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schwenz posted:Since I remember everything by it's cover art, I sorted all my stuff by color. I did this once and it was surprisingly effective, visually and practically... aside from the fact that I had a metric ton of black-spined films.
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LesterGroans posted:I did this once and it was surprisingly effective, visually Yes. LesterGroans posted:and practically No.
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Goddamn pinned threads.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:As soon as you start doing the director thing, it just becomes a morass of specialized sorting. Just sort by the drat title and keep a binder or something nearby of special groupings. I have one special rule and that is sequels are sorted together in order regardless of name. This ends up being pretty easy in practice because few of them don't have the format MOVIE 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Esroc posted:Does there exist anywhere a timeline listing movies in chronological order that most realistically portray human history? And so on and so on. And the same is at least as true of war films, sand and sandal epics, and so forth. You know how if you look at science fiction from the 1950s, the 1970s, and from around 2000 the far future looks completely different? From 1950 the future looks like ray guns and rocket ships. From 1970 it is a post apocalyptic wasteland or technological dystopia. From 2000 it's all about information technology. Well it turns out that exactly the same thing happens with narrative involving the past. The American West in the middle of the 19th Century looks completely different from the vantage of 1950 than it does from 1970. If you try to look at the difference as divergences from some sort of ideal documentary `truth' (like what you might get if you could send a camera through time to record the era you're interested in, and you're pretending that such a documentary would be `reality') then not only are you merely arbitrating things in terms of the biases embedded in your historical vantage point (whatever they may be, and whether or not you're aware of them), but you're also almost certainly missing the actual meaning of the texts in question---approaching High Noon by evaluating how well it models the `real' American West doesn't scratch the surface of how it actually functions as a narrative, which is very much bound up not in how the West actually was in the 19th Century, but rather how the West is depicted in Hollywood in the 1950s. For example.
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Are there any films which are considered to have a fairly accurate portrayal of the 19th century American west? Down to dialogue etc.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Are there any films which are considered to have a fairly accurate portrayal of the 19th century American west? Down to dialogue etc. Fort Apache was based partly on journals from American cavalry soldiers.
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I sort my collection by starting with Alien and putting next to it the movie most similar to it (Sunshine,) and next to that another similar movie (Solaris,) and so on until I get to The Box, which is the end.
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Are there any films which are considered to have a fairly accurate portrayal of the 19th century American west? Down to dialogue etc.
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SubG posted:Do you think there are films which are considered to have an accurate portrayal of early 21st Century American life? Is Tarantino's dialogue `accurate'? Kevin Smith's? Andrew Bujalski's? Ummm well there is this little movie maybe you've heard of it Tiny Furniture?
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Follow the Scarecrow method of sorting: auteurs (directors you like and own 4 or more films from), foreign, and then insane micromanaging of subgenres from then on. If it's your only Joe Dante movie, Gremlins goes in "Lil' Bastards" alongside Ghoulies and Critters. Noir, Neo-Noir, and Faux-Noir sections. Keep the Giallos separate from the Euro-Horror. Or just organize by spine color.
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Dewey decimal system.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQvOnDlql5g
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SEX HAVER 40000 posted:Or just organize by spine color. The only way mine are organized is that box sets go on the ends. This prevents all of my DVDs from turning into a giant domino set. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXjCtgiUEu8
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I don't own any physical media any more so I can sort my collection by anything I want by clicking. I usually just click title...
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