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victrix posted:Yes, quite a bit of sitting in Com/Rav or Com/Com squishing everything in sight because the game is hilariously easy 'A YEUL WHO LOVED TO COLLECT FLOWERS! A YEUL WHO DREAMED OF TRAVEL!' is basically the single most anime scene ever written in a Final Fantasy Game, and (as a source for humor) it for owns bones.
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"I know his name..." *pauses* "NOEL KREISS!"  I know it gets thrown a lot in this thread, but XIII-2 is the most anime of the FF series. (So far~)
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Dross posted:Yes, Doublecast is the Red Mage Lv.20 ability and takes two slots. It is also the only reason to level a Red Mage, as they are awesome in the early game but by Chapter 4 both their physical and magical competence are very much outclassed and they are a hindrance to your party. I hate how this always happens to Red Mages, though it's kind of inevitable with having White/Black Mages as classes. At least Red Mages get to have the best fashion sense out of all mages.
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MarsDragon posted:I hate how this always happens to Red Mages, though it's kind of inevitable with having White/Black Mages as classes. They added the spellblade series of powers to Red Mage in Dimensions and they aren't terrible but they come way, way too late to really care all that much about them.
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Barudak posted:They added the spellblade series of powers to Red Mage in Dimensions and they aren't terrible but they come way, way too late to really care all that much about them. And besides, just like Doublecast, they are better used on another job.
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I actually think I might pick up Dimensions with all this talk of it, the initial $30 pricepoint really threw me off on the whole thing and I'm a bit way of SE games these days.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I actually think I might pick up Dimensions with all this talk of it, the initial $30 pricepoint really threw me off on the whole thing and I'm a bit way of SE games these days. I'm not sure what it's price is on the App Store, but it's always been 19.99 on Android up until this 50% off sale. It's worth it alone for the part(s) with Bikke.
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MarsDragon posted:I hate how this always happens to Red Mages, though it's kind of inevitable with having White/Black Mages as classes. XI did it right, give the red mages something that neither white nor black get but that both would kill to have (Thinking of Refresh back in the 75-cap days, I quit before they raised it again but I assume there's a Refresh II nowadays) and then let them be a support role that can emulate a passable white/black mage but really shines at doing something completely different. ...which is basically impossible to pull off in a traditional FF, so I can't say I'm surprised. The hats really do go a long way towards making up for it.
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MarsDragon posted:I hate how this always happens to Red Mages, though it's kind of inevitable with having White/Black Mages as classes. I'm of the opinion Double Cast rather than be a red mage support ability should just be an innate feature of red magic. I have weaker but more versatile magic becomes much more profound when you get x2 spells a round and can actually use that versatility.
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WhitemageofDOOM posted:I'm of the opinion Double Cast rather than be a red mage support ability should just be an innate feature of red magic. I think that's a great idea. Like in FF5, during the last Four Job Fiesta my only magic class was Red Mage, and his crappy magic variety was made up by Dualcast. Casting Protect in two rounds was handy, and two L2 spells in a row is kinda close to a L3 spell. It's still not a great job without other magic classes to make use of Dualcast, but on its own at least Red Mage can be vaguely comparable to a White or Black Mage, making it up with versatility and a decent physical presence for what it loses in powerful spells and having a weaker magic score. Of course, in FF5 you can just give a Freelancer L6 Black and White magic and simply make a much better Red Mage.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:XI did it right, give the red mages something that neither white nor black get but that both would kill to have (Thinking of Refresh back in the 75-cap days, I quit before they raised it again but I assume there's a Refresh II nowadays) and then let them be a support role that can emulate a passable white/black mage but really shines at doing something completely different. Oh my god do not log back in to 11 right now or you will collapse into eternal despair.
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Shaezerus posted:Oh my god do not log back in to 11 right now or you will collapse into eternal despair. It's a shame, really.
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It could be an interesting dynamic for Red Mages and Dualcast if the ability allowed them to use two spells in one turn, with the condition that one had to be black magic and one had to be white. That way, instead of Dualcast being the "Make White/Black Magic Better" ability, it would be used for weird esoteric turns of simultaneous offense and defense. Or it would just be used for Flare and Holy, I guess.
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I know there are a couple of FF11 players in this thread, anyone paying attention to FF14 and how the reboot is going? I kind of want to see how it turns out but I'm also not going to pay $60+Subscription fee in 2013
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I know there are a couple of FF11 players in this thread, anyone paying attention to FF14 and how the reboot is going? I kind of want to see how it turns out but I'm also not going to pay $60+Subscription fee in 2013 There's a whole thread for it, featuring several beta participants.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I know there are a couple of FF11 players in this thread, anyone paying attention to FF14 and how the reboot is going? I kind of want to see how it turns out but I'm also not going to pay $60+Subscription fee in 2013 It's in beta right now and it seems like it's being received better than 1.0 XIV. Then again a dog making GBS threads on your dinner would be better received than 1.0.
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... This actually looks good. Oh well maybe work will tell me to stay at home to play MMOs for a living while they pay my salary and I'll have time for it~
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I know there are a couple of FF11 players in this thread, anyone paying attention to FF14 and how the reboot is going? I kind of want to see how it turns out but I'm also not going to pay $60+Subscription fee in 2013 I can't really say much about it but currently there isn't much to say, right now. Phase 1 Beta is just making sure the drat game works, which has met with... limited measures of success. It's very pretty though. Certainly better than launch-14, but even the sharp stick in the eye looks tempting when compared to that loving thing.
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14 launch was useful to determine who in my group of friends had no taste in internet video games, and that I should ignore everything they said about that particular genre for all time
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Shaezerus posted:Certainly better than launch-14, but even the sharp stick in the eye looks tempting when compared to that loving thing. New thread topic: Things that are better than FF14 v1.0
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Final Fantasy Megathread: Every game is better than XIV 1.0. Actually that could just be the forum title really.
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I won't let anyone talk about XIV 1.0 in the past tense!
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I know there are a couple of FF11 players in this thread, anyone paying attention to FF14 and how the reboot is going? I kind of want to see how it turns out but I'm also not going to pay $60+Subscription fee in 2013 It's a pretty good WoW clone. If you like WoW clones you will probably like 14. If you don't like WoW clones you won't. I am excited for it though!
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Endorph posted:I won't let anyone talk about XIV 1.0 in the past tense! Then you'll love the official forums for it! Stockholm Syndrome at it's finest from what I know of 1.0.
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The GIG posted:Then you'll love the official forums for it! Stockholm Syndrome at it's finest from what I know of 1.0. I think I saw an "ARR will fail if we do not implement 1.0's battle system" thread in there, at one point.
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Failboattootoot posted:It's a pretty good WoW clone. If you like WoW clones you will probably like 14. If you don't like WoW clones you won't. I am excited for it though! A masamune is often harder on the woman than on the man.
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Heh, I finally got to play Ninja in FF:D - JL 10 with Backliner plus HP/STR +20%, combined with Level 66 and climbing, just cuts through everything like a buzzsaw. I'm seriously contemplating making my JL 20 Monk one as well and just laughing up to the end. On the light side, I finally got Paladin, and promptly mixed it and JL 15 Warrior to get Mighty Wall. I will never fear bosses ever again. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Mar 15, 2013 |
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Some minor thing that's going round the place, just thought I'd share. The fashion designer that worked on FF XIII Versus is apparently listing it as FF15. It's apparently been that way since last June. Typographical gently caress up or not, Versus has been seven Years in development.
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It really wouldn't surprise me, I've always thought that its status as a spin-off game seemed a bit weird since it's entirely original and appears to be nothing like XIII.
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They can call it FF: Trinus ut Hawaii if they want, I honestly don't give a crap anymore until I see the drat game on my shelf.
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I'm thinking they're going to rename it something odd like Final Fantasy XVersus. It would be in line with recent games like All The Bravest, and that AC BC CC DC thing they had going on with the Final Fantasy VII compilation.
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MarsDragon posted:I hate how this always happens to Red Mages, though it's kind of inevitable with having White/Black Mages as classes. They're pretty great in FFXII International. They get a wide variety of magic, notably the first incarnation of the class since FF1 to be able to cast -ga level spells. Their melee ability is good, being able to use shields and have maces (Which uses the Magic stat for damage) as their weapon of choice. They also are the only class able to cast Arcane magic.
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They probably planned their Final Fantasy XV release for next gen consoles. When it was going to be released in the same window as XIII, it made sense to keep the XIII branding.
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I finally made it to Chapter 3 of Dimensions and despite at first glance looking like a cheap cash-in RPG Maker title, it actually puts forth effort. It's very reference heavy in that nearly every character or situation you run across is a person or a shoutout from a previous game but it works together in the episodic chunks the game feeds you. I love the job system too. It's familiar but slightly different and gives me that same feeling of just wanting to grind them out to see what combos I can put together. It's not terribly difficult but can be in spots. The music is nice too! I guess I'm at about the halfway point now? I'm back to Team Light and I think I'm going to make my party healer a Bard to get the Fusion skills later down the tree. I don't have a great picture of who should be what so I'm primarly focusing on one class per character. I've read that Thief is important but I have one Thief between two parties. I hope that doesn't hurt me later.
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Dr Pepper posted:They're pretty great in FFXII International. They get a wide variety of magic, notably the first incarnation of the class since FF1 to be able to cast -ga level spells. Their melee ability is good, being able to use shields and have maces (Which uses the Magic stat for damage) as their weapon of choice. They also are the only class able to cast Arcane magic. The only problem with Red Mages in FF12 is that they don't have any panache (seriously, why no rapiers?), and as we all know, panache is the most important stat for a Red Mage. Balthier kind of makes up for the panache deficit but it's really not enough.
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Paperhouse posted:It really wouldn't surprise me, I've always thought that its status as a spin-off game seemed a bit weird since it's entirely original and appears to be nothing like XIII. It's not entirely original -- they share the same mythos and Gods.
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Pesky Splinter posted:It's apparently been that way since last June. Typographical gently caress up or not, Versus has been seven Years in development. That means it's gonna be like three-and-a-half times better than the original FF7, right? ... Right? 
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The White Dragon posted:That means it's gonna be like three-and-a-half times better than the original FF7, right? ... Right? They haven't made a game better than FF7 since FF Tactics.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:They haven't made a game better than FF7 since FF Tactics. 9 and 12 would like a word with you. 
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:9 and 12 would like a word with you. I love both games. For the gameplay. 12 was the single best evolution Final Fantasy has seen, but they've made one point clear since FFIV: These are storylines with gaming aspects considered second. And they haven't written a better story since VII (Tactics).
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