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Irisi posted:Hah! The resemblance was a bit uncanny. Speaking of which, I held out on Being Human regardless of the fact that it was nowhere near as good as the first few seasons I still enjoyed the later stuff. And I was really impressed with the final scene. The three of them gambling on the price of things on antique's roadshow, and Hal is told he's not allowed to play if it's an object that he previously owned, to which he replies "once, that happened once".
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How is Eldon's show? I've always found him hilarious; he was the best thing about Big Train (and that's saying something) and it's great to hear he has his own show now. Is it a sitcom type thing or something else?
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Mar 18, 2013 01:08
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I know it's just a building and it's dumb to get sentimental about such things but BBC Television Centre ceases transmission operations today, with the BBC News Channel being the last broadcast, ending at the switchover to New Broadcasting House for the 1 O'Clock News. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rKCdx1Dpog I still think this is probably one of the stupidest decisions ever made in the history of the BBC and Mark 'Thommo' Thompson is an colossal arsehole sitting in his solid gold house in New York.
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Mar 18, 2013 02:06
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I only saw a brief trailer for this today, but it seems that tomorrow on BBC2 at 9pm, we're getting a drama about the Challenger disaster starring William Hurt as Richard loving Feynman. http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2013/the-challenger.html
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Mar 18, 2013 02:13
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Stare-Out posted:How is Eldon's show? I've always found him hilarious; he was the best thing about Big Train (and that's saying something) and it's great to hear he has his own show now. Is it a sitcom type thing or something else? It was... very Kevin Eldon. A sketch show, that was very much a meta-sketch show. I really don't know how people who don't know him will react to it. Also, I might be wrong, but I think it was entirely pre-watershed friendly.
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Mar 18, 2013 02:31
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:I still think this is probably one of the stupidest decisions ever made in the history of the BBC and Mark 'Thommo' Thompson is an colossal arsehole sitting in his solid gold house in New York. Nostalgia for the building is one thing, but I've never read of even the most ardent nostalgist BBCer arguing that they should keep using Television Centre. It was an absolute mess of a place apparently.
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Mar 18, 2013 03:02
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On the other hand, moving everything up north means they are entirely buggered for guests. And I sincerely doubt they'll save money in the long (or short) term by selling facilities in London that they still need.
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Mar 18, 2013 03:41
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Yeah they've buggered getting political guests on Breakfast, and selling off studios that they would rent out to other production companies is madness and leads to the kind of oddity like the Graham Norton show, their Friday night major thing, being produced by ITV and recorded at The London Studios (owner: ITV). Just because it was a bit old doesn't mean it was beyond use, as proven by the new owners of the site who are planning to refurbish the TV studios and rent them out to... the BBC and others. It jus seems immensely short sighted that a company who are supposed to make television would continue this madness of outsourcing everything and stripping away the facilities which provide them revenue.
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Mar 18, 2013 10:25
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On a technical level it was a loving clusterfuck apparently (you'd probably know more than me, though, Mahmoud - I'm just going off what various broadcast techs have said over the years). PS: Not watched Eldon yet, but overnight figures are in. 430,000. Which is fairly depressing. The Challenger should be good I think but I wish they'd have got Robin Ince to do Feynmann and use his impression of him 
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Mar 18, 2013 11:46
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I like Kevin Eldon, but I thought his show last night was unadulterated poo poo. I think if I'd seen it about 15 years ago I'd have loved it. I'm not quite sure if that's because what he's doing in the show was of the time back then and now just looks embarrassingly dated, or because my tastes in comedy have changed. I'll keep watching, because there's still a chance he's actually doing something very clever that isn't quite apparent yet. But last night was just really poo poo. I almost had to turn it off during the sketch where the man who'd just been punched yelled for a full minute, Jesus Christ. That was just annoying, Kevin. I was worried my neighbours would think I was watching gay porn. sex pervert fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Mar 18, 2013 |
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Mar 18, 2013 12:15
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Has Kevin Eldon ever been that good? He's been in quite a lot of good shows but as far as I can tell it's always just as a (not particularly good) actor, rather than being involved in the creative process. There's something I find a bit off-putting about him as well, I'm not sure what it is but I kind of don't enjoy watching him
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Mar 18, 2013 12:24
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He's always been good as an actor in other programmes, but he did a quick bit at a comedy gig I went to recently and my sister, who didn't know who he was, leant over to me and said "imagine how terrible it would be if you were his wife and you had to pretend to find him funny." Ouch. He deserved it though, gently caress musical comedy
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Mar 18, 2013 12:47
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When I watched Kevin Eldon's stand-up DVD I thought his stuff was cleverer than it was funny. I feel like he could almost do with a straight man sidekick to bounce his weirdness off.
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Mar 18, 2013 12:56
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Paperhouse posted:Has Kevin Eldon ever been that good? Simon Quinlank and Real Rod Hull are classic characters, and it's all down to his performance.
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Mar 18, 2013 12:59
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sex pervert posted:I'll keep watching, because there's still a chance he's actually doing something very clever that isn't quite apparent yet. But last night was just really poo poo. I almost had to turn it off during the sketch where the man who'd just been punched yelled for a full minute, Jesus Christ. That was just annoying, Kevin. I was worried my neighbours would think I was watching gay porn. Saddest thing is that was a Family Guy joke. One I've seen on there a lot, too. I found the first proper sketch with the drunk belligerent man in the hospital amusing, mostly for how it showed the difference having an actual comedy actor can make, compared to something like Anna and Katy, which has an unfunny script and performances to match. Although I got bored of It's Kevin about 2 minutes into the man making music when he spoke. Has anyone being watching Anna and Katy?
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Mar 18, 2013 13:04
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I always thought that alternative comedy was a risk to watch, because you're not sure if what you're going to see is going to be good or complete poo poo but at the very least you could guarantee that it would be interesting or unique in some way. But having listened to Kevin Eldon's recent radio show, I know even that idea is wrong now.
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Mar 18, 2013 13:13
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Paperhouse posted:Has Kevin Eldon ever been that good? He's been in quite a lot of good shows but as far as I can tell it's always just as a (not particularly good) actor, rather than being involved in the creative process. There's something I find a bit off-putting about him as well, I'm not sure what it is but I kind of don't enjoy watching him He's a creepy bastard, yeah. He's an entity unto himself, really. I'd have a terrible time if someone from, say, the USA asked me to explain what he does. He's a sort of British comedy running joke. I do think he's a talented performer, though. He's had tiny parts in a lot of my favourite shows but he still manages to be one of the most memorable characters in all of them: the giggling, posh racist in Alan Partridge; the sad man on the roof in Saxondale; the anal dentist cleaner in Black Books - all tiny parts but hugely memorable characters thanks to him. Still. Creepy as gently caress. Not the kind of man you'd want to be left alone with on the top deck of a bus. At night. With a deaf bus driver. (I'd worry he'd conduct a rape on my anus) He just has that sort of face.
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Padje posted:Has anyone being watching Anna and Katy? I've been watching it. Really enjoyed the first episode (the Apprentice spoof is spot-on) but was massively disappointed when subsequent eps were the basically the same sketches. Diminshing returns and all that. That said I think Anna and Katy are talented and could go on to do better things.
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Mar 18, 2013 13:41
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I'm not sure if It's Kevin was terrible or if I'm missing something. It was very well made, but it just didn't work for me. It felt deliberately inaccessible.
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Mar 18, 2013 13:47
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So they managed to switch from TVC to NBH without a fuckup at all, and we got an 85 second countdown on the News Channel to boot. That wide shot of the newsroom is epic as gently caress. The place is huge.
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Mar 18, 2013 14:04
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It's huge because newsgathering and broadcast are all together, plus now the World Service isn't in Bush House. Gonna be a noisy clusterfuck when something major breaks though I bet.
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Mar 18, 2013 14:07
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:It's huge because newsgathering and broadcast are all together, plus now the World Service isn't in Bush House. Gonna be a noisy clusterfuck when something major breaks though I bet. That sounds like a recipe for disaster. I can't wait.
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thehustler posted:That wide shot of the newsroom is epic as gently caress. The place is huge. Is this available somewhere?
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Mar 18, 2013 14:52
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reality_groove posted:When I watched Kevin Eldon's stand-up DVD I thought his stuff was cleverer than it was funny. I was really looking forward to watching it, but thought it was terrible. It's over a year ago now, but the only bit I can remember enjoying was the George Martin WW2 bit.
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Mar 18, 2013 14:53
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Metrication posted:Is this available somewhere? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21830951 Good overview there.
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Mar 18, 2013 15:14
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The problem is the unfunny bits of Eldon's Titting About weren't "I'm not laughing but I can see why it's clever / inventive" like the rest of the Chippington followers.
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Mar 18, 2013 15:24
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Metrication posted:Is this available somewhere? They did a big walkthrough showing off and pointing out where home & foreign are then surrounded by radio, online, television and world spanning out around them on the 1 o'clock news, which will be on iplayer eventually.
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Mar 18, 2013 15:28
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I think Kevin Eldon hates sketch shows and is trying to kill it as a concept.
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Mar 18, 2013 16:10
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:I'm not sure if It's Kevin was terrible or if I'm missing something. You're not missing anything, it was really terrible. I struggle to understand how something so bad gets past the script stage.
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Mar 18, 2013 17:04
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Yeah they've buggered getting political guests on Breakfast, and selling off studios that they would rent out to other production companies is madness and leads to the kind of oddity like the Graham Norton show, their Friday night major thing, being produced by ITV and recorded at The London Studios (owner: ITV). Just because it was a bit old doesn't mean it was beyond use, as proven by the new owners of the site who are planning to refurbish the TV studios and rent them out to... the BBC and others. Mark Thompson is the real life version of Lt. Marimow from The Wire, he got appointed the job for the sole purpose of destroying the BBC from the inside.
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The prolem with guys like Kevin Eldon is, unfortunately, they're in their 50s. They're not looking at stuff on YouTube or Reddit all day like we are because they have other poo poo to do and it's not how their life is set up, and as a result comedy trends pass them by. Being able to write "funny" stuff in the 90s doesn't mean a lot in terms of being able to write "funny" stuff now. It's very very difficult to stay good for more than a generation (although yeah I never thought he was funny either, it always seems like he gets stuff from a bunch of people that have gotten more famous being mates with him when they were all on "the circuit" together in the early 90s.) 45-year old comedians and 45 year old comedy comissioners will vouch for him and support him, but he has no good will with the audience and the era that guys like Kevin Eldon learned to do comedy in is really dated now.
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Mar 18, 2013 18:22
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iPlayer has There Will Be Blood and The Baader Meinhof Complex at the moment, both well worth watching.
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You know the sketches in Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle - which, mercifully, were largely absent from the second season? It's Kevin was basically half an hour of those.
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Mar 18, 2013 18:52
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Mellomeh posted:You know the sketches in Stewart Lee's Comedy Vehicle - which, mercifully, were largely absent from the second season? It's Kevin was basically half an hour of those. The apple shop sketch was a wonderful piece of parody  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yQP3frvrA0Edit: This was the only good sketch in SLCV because it was approached as the kind of sketch that approached comedy in the same way as Stewart Lee, rather than "Ha! That funny situation Stewart just mentioned? Let's show it!" I've always seen The Actor Kevin Eldon as something of an in-joke, rather than a talent in his own right. Noreaus fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Mar 18, 2013 |
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:I'm not sure if It's Kevin was terrible or if I'm missing something. It was very well made, but it just didn't work for me. It felt deliberately inaccessible. I always wondered why Kevin Eldon has never had his own show before and well now we know:(
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Mar 18, 2013 20:16
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I knew it would be bad when I saw a recent clip of him doing a live routine in French. This is the preserve of wankers.
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Paperhouse posted:Has Kevin Eldon ever been that good? He's been in quite a lot of good shows but as far as I can tell it's always just as a (not particularly good) actor, rather than being involved in the creative process. There's something I find a bit off-putting about him as well, I'm not sure what it is but I kind of don't enjoy watching him
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So, I'm a big fan of cookery shows and I've been watching series 8 of Great British Menu which has a brief related to Comic Relief and adding humour to dishes. I'd noticed the word "witty" was used an awful lot during each show and, because I have access to various BBC secret squirrel stuff, I pulled up the script for each episode and searched for mentions of the word "witty". Guess what I found? Every episode of series 8 has EXACTLY 5 mentions of "witty". That's 28 episodes so far with exactly 5 uses of the word "witty". Bit of a coincidence!
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WastedJoker posted:So, I'm a big fan of cookery shows and I've been watching series 8 of Great British Menu which has a brief related to Comic Relief and adding humour to dishes. I guess words go through phases of being popular, like 'LITERALLY' which is being used a lot at the moment. Personally I am trying my best to resurrect Ritzy as the word du jour. As in - 'Ooo is that a new watch, it's very ritzy' or 'That's a ritzy new pair of shoes you have there'. I don't know why it just makes me laugh. Ritzy. Anyway, In the Flesh was pretty thought-provoking. I went into it thinking it would be a comedy. Which I think it is safe to say it isn't, what with granny gangland-style executions. I enjoyed it though, it was an interesting look at what is getting to be an increasingly mined genre. Broadchurch now! Woot woot!
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