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Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

horsepeen posted:

I wonder if Grant Morrison would ever write for Doctor Who. Aside from the Dalek-like Metaleks and the Multitude Angels, the whole finale was pretty timey-wimey.

He did.
http://www.comicvine.com/grant-morrisons-doctor-who/49-23422/

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Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you
I'm going to out myself as a dumb retard baby here but I have no idea what happened in Action Comics this month, nor indeed many of the months prior. Just none of it made any sense to me at all.

Shameless
Dec 22, 2004

We're all so ugly and stupid and doomed.
Aaaaand, Diggle's just tweeted he's off Action already. He says it was for professional reasons which reads to me like editorial interference.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Shameless posted:

Aaaaand, Diggle's just tweeted he's off Action already. He says it was for professional reasons which reads to me like editorial interference.
Amazing. And TD is writing now, too? DC needs a talent influx, stat.

redbackground fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Mar 20, 2013

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe

redbackground posted:

Amazing. And TD is writing now, too? DC needs a talent influx, stat.
Wait, Tony Daniel is gonna be writing too? loving Christ, no. No, no no. Dropped. I was gonna give Diggle a shot but I KNOW Daniel is a poo poo writer. I'll pick it back up if/when they change creatives again.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Shameless posted:

Aaaaand, Diggle's just tweeted he's off Action already. He says it was for professional reasons which reads to me like editorial interference.

Or it could be a contract from Marvel, however this is DC so its most likely editorial interference

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Shameless posted:

Aaaaand, Diggle's just tweeted he's off Action already. He says it was for professional reasons which reads to me like editorial interference.

I guess someone at DC got around to reading Shadowland.

Adam Strange
Oct 11, 2012

He laughs. The line goes dead.
If Daniel is really taking over then I wonder when this decision was made because I'm pretty sure he's been talking up how he wants focus on his art for a while.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Oh man, we're really entering a Superman dark age here.

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007

Kull the Conqueror posted:

Oh man, we're really entering a Superman dark age here.

The Snyder book should be good.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

I'm going to out myself as a dumb retard baby here but I have no idea what happened in Action Comics this month, nor indeed many of the months prior. Just none of it made any sense to me at all.

I was very fine hanging on to the loopdy loop until right this moment. All the 5D craziness has been rocking my poo poo the last few issues, the crazy angels being revealed as a manifestation of an other dimension harpoon attack and all that, but this is gonna require a clearer head than I have right now. Yowza.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Yannick_B posted:

The Snyder book should be good.

If he is not taken off it before the first issue.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Space_Butler posted:

Wait, Tony Daniel is gonna be writing too? loving Christ, no. No, no no. Dropped. I was gonna give Diggle a shot but I KNOW Daniel is a poo poo writer. I'll pick it back up if/when they change creatives again.

Yeah, I was going to at least give Diggle an issue or two, but if that's all he's doing, it hardly seems worth it.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe

Teenage Fansub posted:

I was very fine hanging on to the loopdy loop until right this moment. All the 5D craziness has been rocking my poo poo the last few issues, the crazy angels being revealed as a manifestation of an other dimension harpoon attack and all that, but this is gonna require a clearer head than I have right now. Yowza.
I've read it three times now and I feel like I'm on the cusp of beginning to understand what it all means. That's what I'm going to miss most about Morrison leaving Action: even the weaker issues still needed to be pored over with a fine tooth comb. As far as dollar-per-minutes-of-reading, it was the best value DC had going by a long shot. That said, hope someone does plenty of annotations for this one.

Nevertheless, that was a great last page. And Fisch's backup was pretty awesome, and fitting, as well.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Read the latest issue of Action Comics at a diner, and wrote my name backwards on my cellphone. Loved all the silver age callbacks. It's sad we won't see any more of Morrison's Superman besides whatever will be in Multiversity.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Action Comics: So I think I got the symbolism of the ant, and I enjoyed the implication that Superman's greatest potential weakness is that he's owned by DC. But what was the symbolism of the lion besieged by arrows?

Also it was interesting that Superman gave up more time with his parents to save the lives of the Martian colonists from a few issues ago. A perfect little moment of pure heroism mixed with meta winking at past continuity.

These final issues really made me appreciate Morrison's run. It was uneven at times, especially the art and pacing, but there was a freshness and drive behind the whole thing that will be hard to top. I hope the end of his long Batman run is just as strong.

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007

bobkatt013 posted:

If he is not taken off it before the first issue.

He is one of their star writers, on a book with the co-publisher. Its pretty unlikely.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Yannick_B posted:

The Snyder book should be good.

Not if you don't care for Jim Lee's art anymore.

Genetic Toaster
Jun 5, 2011

Or Snyder's overuse of textboxes and overly decompressed storytelling.

Emo Szyslak
Feb 25, 2006

On that note, I laughed out loud at Threshold #3's recap/news/whatever page having an ad for decompression specialists.

Shapiro
Jun 27, 2005

a jealous female can be tricked into anything


Man, great run. Gonna read it all in one shot soon.

d00gZ
Oct 12, 2002

Original Sin Murderer
Wild Guess #627
Edward Snowden

"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them."
I swear to God, did Rags Morales just google "old Scottish dude" and dress Morrison up like him for no reason? That hat! Those glasses!

Kaleidoscope
Sep 8, 2007

The Internet makes me dizzy.

Yannick_B posted:

The Snyder book should be good.

It'll start with an eleven issue arc (plus crossovers) about who was really behind the destruction of Krypton.

Yannick_B
Oct 11, 2007

Rhyno posted:

Not if you don't care for Jim Lee's art anymore.

I do, so its GREAT NEWS for me!

Shapiro
Jun 27, 2005

a jealous female can be tricked into anything
I liked the drawing of Rags writing on his hand, because it looks like it's actually done from the perspective of the person drawing the book. Like, the artist himself is reaching into it.

I phrased that badly, but maybe you get what I mean.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






Shapiro posted:

I liked the drawing of Rags writing on his hand, because it looks like it's actually done from the perspective of the person drawing the book. Like, the artist himself is reaching into it.

I phrased that badly, but maybe you get what I mean.

I totally get what you mean, and it's really cool.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Is one of the heads of the Vyndktvx hydra Pa Kent? Who are all those heads? Just different dimensional aspects of Vyndktvx?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

I'm going to out myself as a dumb retard baby here but I have no idea what happened in Action Comics this month, nor indeed many of the months prior. Just none of it made any sense to me at all.

I got about... half of it? And really enjoyed those parts. Maybe I'll go over the other parts with a fine tooth comb later and go "Oooooohhhh" as everything clicks together for me, or maybe I'll just accept that I enjoyed the pretty pictures and move on.

Basically what I'm saying here is it's okay man, you're not the only dumb baby out there.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



I got $7 that Superman Unchained starts with "My Father told me"

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

^burtle posted:

I got $7 that Superman Unchained starts with "My Father told me"

I hate you so much. Now there's no way that poo poo doesn't happen.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Rhyno posted:

I hate you so much. Now there's no way that poo poo doesn't happen.
I dunno, his last comic bet didn't turn out so well.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



That was like 4 bets ago, stud.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

^burtle posted:

That was like 4 bets ago, stud.

I bet a customer that Marvel wasn't stupid enough to cast a wrestler in a major role and the loser had to drink a bottle of tobasco sauce.



loving Batista.

Fightest
Nov 4, 2009

Great Sage
Equal of Heaven
Despite the symbolism and allegory, I thought the message in Action Comics was pretty clear-cut! Superman is a perfect trick - an individual designed never to lose. The trick has been challenged, is being challenged and will be challenged (and, in the case of Action, the challenge comes from spite and, well, vindictiveness at the audacity of such a trick existing), but the challenge was futile from the get-go because victory is hard-coded into Superman. It's classic Morrison, and I'm glad that he kept his unique touch for the story.

Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe
CBR has a preview up for Action Comics #19 and... it's not terrible? Daniel's art is definitely on the more tolerable side here compared to his 'Tec run, and Diggle is doing a decent job of getting people's voices right. Certainly a lot more than Lobdell is.

goldenoreos
Jan 5, 2012

Take care of my animals while I'm gone

Space_Butler posted:

CBR has a preview up for Action Comics #19 and... it's not terrible? Daniel's art is definitely on the more tolerable side here compared to his 'Tec run, and Diggle is doing a decent job of getting people's voices right. Certainly a lot more than Lobdell is.

It hurts knowing this will only last for a few issues

d00gZ
Oct 12, 2002

Original Sin Murderer
Wild Guess #627
Edward Snowden

"My sole motive is to inform the public as to that which is done in their name and that which is done against them."

goldenoreos posted:

It hurts knowing this will only last for a few issues

One issue.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

He might do okay working under the arc's outline. You can do it Tony!

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
The Action stuff that has been going on lately has been really confusing, but it's about fourth dimensional midgets so, I guess that's a given. I like that the bad guy is all like "Mr. Mxyzptlk is actually just an idiot. I'm not saying poo poo backwards."

Someone linked me to some costume redesign thing today about making superman look more "alien", and all I could think of was that I've seen an issue where some alien villain of the moment tries to convince superman that he actually does look like an alien and he's really just fooling everyone. I've been googling in vain all day and I can't remember what issue that was, can anyone else remember that or did I just hallucinate it?

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Space_Butler
Dec 5, 2003
Fun Shoe
Wow, Action 19 was exceptionally good. It's been a while since I've read a good "Luthor as a mad scientist" story. I'm glad that between a pre-burned Luthor and a single Lois, we're getting some crucial backstory filled in that has been otherwise lost in the vanilla Superman book by taking place in modern day. It's not as mindbending as what Morrison did, but it's a solid Superman story nonetheless. Even the art was stellar, I don't think I've ever seen Daniel do as good of work as he's doing here. The superb coloring certainly helped out, at least.

I'm now pretty damned mad that DC drove Diggle off, because if this is what we could've expected from his run, we'll have missed out on some fantastic stuff.

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