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psydude
Apr 1, 2008

The AGRs in my unit did one and said it was a good time, but I don't know if it was a $140 and getting electrocuted good time.

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gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT
My NG MI unit is trying to convince people to do a 28 mile March for the fallen. 28 miles. 35Lb ruck. NG. MI. Also they said I have to and I said gently caress off. I'm not driving four hours so I can march for 8.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u
Sounds like the Manchu Mile dick is reaching out to touch some people.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:

My NG MI unit is trying to convince people to do a 28 mile March for the fallen. 28 miles. 35Lb ruck. NG. MI. Also they said I have to and I said gently caress off. I'm not driving four hours so I can march for 8.

Lol what.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

To be fair my company is in an infantry battalion. Also they've asked us to design T shirts and I want to submit one of a fat pimply dude at a computer and somethinf about autism.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Yeah, same here. Being in a BCT MICO != infantry though. Even if you are infantry, I imagine that working up to rucking 28 miles you know, requires some training beforehand.

Honestly though, I'd do it if given time to prepare.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

HATE CURES TRANNYS posted:

My NG MI unit is trying to convince people to do a 28 mile March for the fallen. 28 miles. 35Lb ruck. NG. MI. Also they said I have to and I said gently caress off. I'm not driving four hours so I can march for 8.

I thought you were in the IRR now.

gleep gloop
Aug 16, 2005

GROSS SHIT

DoktorLoken posted:

Yeah, same here. Being in a BCT MICO != infantry though. Even if you are infantry, I imagine that working up to rucking 28 miles you know, requires some training beforehand.

Honestly though, I'd do it if given time to prepare.

Yeah but the CSM doesn't see that. He wants max participation, and at AT everyone is gonna shoot guns and MI is useless etc etc. Of course my company is nothing but terribly smug MI stereotypes...

And psydude not yet but very soon.

Time Crisis Actor
Apr 28, 2002

by Hand Knit

psydude posted:

The AGRs in my unit did one and said it was a good time, but I don't know if it was a $140 and getting electrocuted good time.

If you register early enough its only like 110$. I did one about 3 weeks ago with some folks and it was really fun. Getting shocked sucked rear end in a top hat, but everything else was fun.

Captain Amerikkka
Mar 14, 2013

Martello posted:

Just keep your push ups and sit ups at 100 points each and get really huge and worse at running. Running is for fags anyway. Score a 270 and you'll be fine.

Max max relax, only way to go.

Also anyone here use Jack3d before they reformulated it? Some dude at a nutrition store told me that there's something called "preworkout" that has some fancy root in it that's an ephedrine analog or some poo poo they banned from jack3d, is this even remotely true or would I be just as well off drinking a cup of coffee or something?

Internet Wizard
Aug 9, 2009

BANDAIDS DON'T FIX BULLET HOLES

Captain Amerikkka posted:

Max max relax, only way to go.

Also anyone here use Jack3d before they reformulated it? Some dude at a nutrition store told me that there's something called "preworkout" that has some fancy root in it that's an ephedrine analog or some poo poo they banned from jack3d, is this even remotely true or would I be just as well off drinking a cup of coffee or something?

Jack3d used to have a stimulant called 1,3 DMAA. It's pretty great. Supposedly it is naturally found in geranium plants, and that's why it was allowed in supplements. But then in the last year the FDA decided that since nobody could actually prove it is found in them, and all of the DMAA used in supplements was synthetic, it wasn't allowed. The stuff they make now is mostly just flavored caffeine.

So yes, go with coffee and maybe some other stuff like creatine or whatever you want.

Captain Amerikkka
Mar 14, 2013
That's what I figured. He claimed they were selling the stuff with DMAA at their other store, but I can't find anything called "preworkout" anywhere to verify the ingredients and I'll be damned if I'm going to drive 20 miles to see if he's telling the truth.

I always figured Jack3d was just caffeine or something stupid, but after switching from it to some horseshit Cellucor C4 I can honestly say it made a difference. Can't say that I miss the pukey feeling it gave me after intense workouts though.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Captain Amerikkka posted:

Max max relax, only way to go.

Also anyone here use Jack3d before they reformulated it? Some dude at a nutrition store told me that there's something called "preworkout" that has some fancy root in it that's an ephedrine analog or some poo poo they banned from jack3d, is this even remotely true or would I be just as well off drinking a cup of coffee or something?

Here's everything you need to know about preworkouts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmmZULPUEkQ

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Didn't modify my workout for this APFT other than doing more running (it's getting warmer anyway, so that's actually more for fun). No pushups, no situps, but my score still went up. PT is dumb.

HelpImARock3
May 27, 2010

Don't get treed by a Chihuahua
Jack3D works wonders, but it's incredibly addicting to use it every time you workout...leaving you drained and poo poo for effort if you're ever at the gym without it. Also taking your blood pressure when you take it is very :stare:

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this
I can't take preworkout poo poo because I usually work out at night and I'd rather go to sleep at a decent hour than have a monster workout. One day I'll try it out.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Pre-workouts are great for a guaranteed poop prior to lifting. That's seriously the biggest advantage I see for them.

whatspeakyou
Mar 3, 2010

no fucks given.

holocaust bloopers posted:

Pre-workouts are great for a guaranteed poop prior to lifting. That's seriously the biggest advantage I see for them.

Every time I take Assault on an empty stomach, I'm making GBS threads in the gym prior to lifting anything. It's a 100% guarantee that should be on the bottle somewhere.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

whatspeakyou posted:

Every time I take Assault on an empty stomach, I'm making GBS threads in the gym prior to lifting anything. It's a 100% guarantee that should be on the bottle somewhere.

It's playing with fire though. I got the timing on when to take it on my drive to the gym down pretty good but I've had to divert once before making GBS threads myself. Lucky for me I picked the only secured facility on the flight line road and had to be escorted in then the dude had to stand outside the bathroom while I'm there wrecking their toilet. Ya good times.

Nice and hot piss
Feb 1, 2004

Anal sex is good for stimulating your bowels to take a poo poo, and it wont dehydrate you like pre-workouts will.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

MurderBot posted:

Anal sex is good for stimulating your bowels to take a poo poo, and it wont dehydrate you like pre-workouts will.

Almost kinda hope that this isn't something you learned over a bad weekend.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
What about that post makes it sound like a bad weekend?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Godholio posted:

What about that post makes it sound like a bad weekend?

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Tripled 405lb and pulled 415 for a single. A good dead lifting day.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

I've been noticing an interesting trend recently that I'm sure many of you have observed as well. I posted about it in last month's Army thread (maybe it was January's?), but I figured this would be a good place to discuss it.

So in the Reserve Component a soldier is usually assigned to their unit prior to going to basic training, meaning that we keep track of them during their progression through IET, and if they get injured then they come and drill with us. Right now, we have five soldiers who are on convalescent leave from basic training due to stress fractures caused by excessive exercise. Three of them will likely be injured to life and two may be able to return, but it's doubtful. Anyone who has been around a TRADOC post recently knows that the type of poo poo you do for PT can barely be classified as exercise, and definitely not excessive.

The problem was corroborated by the brother of my CO, who runs a basic training company down at Jackson: they're seeing alarming injury rates for stress fractures in the legs and hips, even with the scaling back of PT. If soldiers aren't flat out getting broken, they're simply weak as hell. Apparently the remedial PT program isn't filled with fatties, but rather people with zero muscle mass.

The cause seems to be what you'd expect: kids these days are growing up with zero physical activity and have the same bone density of an elderly person. I just can't fathom an 18 year old suffering the same injuries as a 70 year old with osteoporosis, but apparently it's incredibly commonplace. My guess is it's a latent dysfunction of both the elimination of physical education and sports programs from school and the fact that kids spend all of their time playing video games.

Captain Amerikkka
Mar 14, 2013
The biggest problem is that most people who join the military are weak-rear end pussies who spent their formative years getting bullied and look to the military as a way to cheat their god-given role as bottom feeding mouthbreathing losers.

genderstomper58
Jan 10, 2005

by XyloJW

Captain Amerikkka posted:

The biggest problem is that most people who join the military are weak-rear end pussies who spent their formative years getting bullied and look to the military as a way to cheat their god-given role as bottom feeding mouthbreathing losers.

Its also those drat video games

Captain Amerikkka
Mar 14, 2013
Also skim milk. What kind of pussies are we growing here? Drink whole milk you soft bitches.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Captain Amerikkka posted:

Also skim milk. What kind of pussies are we growing here? Drink whole milk you soft bitches.

And take some creatine while you're at it.

SneakySnake
Feb 5, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

psydude posted:

I've been noticing an interesting trend recently that I'm sure many of you have observed as well. I posted about it in last month's Army thread (maybe it was January's?), but I figured this would be a good place to discuss it.

So in the Reserve Component a soldier is usually assigned to their unit prior to going to basic training, meaning that we keep track of them during their progression through IET, and if they get injured then they come and drill with us. Right now, we have five soldiers who are on convalescent leave from basic training due to stress fractures caused by excessive exercise. Three of them will likely be injured to life and two may be able to return, but it's doubtful. Anyone who has been around a TRADOC post recently knows that the type of poo poo you do for PT can barely be classified as exercise, and definitely not excessive.

The problem was corroborated by the brother of my CO, who runs a basic training company down at Jackson: they're seeing alarming injury rates for stress fractures in the legs and hips, even with the scaling back of PT. If soldiers aren't flat out getting broken, they're simply weak as hell. Apparently the remedial PT program isn't filled with fatties, but rather people with zero muscle mass.

The cause seems to be what you'd expect: kids these days are growing up with zero physical activity and have the same bone density of an elderly person. I just can't fathom an 18 year old suffering the same injuries as a 70 year old with osteoporosis, but apparently it's incredibly commonplace. My guess is it's a latent dysfunction of both the elimination of physical education and sports programs from school and the fact that kids spend all of their time playing video games.

I saw some special on like HBO or something about how unhealthy kids today are or some poo poo and one of the stories was this yuppie couple that had a kid that was overweight, so they brought him to some program at a local university. Like he looked like a normal kinda overweight dude but he was actually really overweight because he had like no muscle mass since getting a +15 strength sword doesn't make you swole irl, they did one of those MRI body fat scans and everything. Well anyhow the parents were absolutely baffled by this and couldn't figure out what to do so they brought this kid to the university something like once or twice a week to run on a treadmill to lower his body fat amount and his dad would just stand to the side and watch as his kid was hooked up with surface electrodes like he was Project X or something. At the end of the episode they were happy and celebrating that he built up muscle mass and lowered his body fat percent. The #1 question though is why the gently caress couldn't dad just go and hang out with his son and do outdoorsy things like go hiking or ride bikes or even just work out at the gym together and spend some quality time together? Probs because pops looked like he was too busy playing WoW. So I guess I'm not surprised at all that this is happening as the generation that grew up with super mario brothers and the internet can't even figure out how to do PT on their own and need a professor at a university to whoop them into shape.

SneakySnake
Feb 5, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post
kinda bummed now though, university used to have a thousand club wall where they would put up pictures of dudes who got a combined total of 1000 pounds with squat, deadlift, and bench. I was a while away from making it but it was a cool long term goal and fantasy to have my face on a wall staring at all the scrubs with chicken legs.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

SneakySnake posted:

kinda bummed now though, university used to have a thousand club wall where they would put up pictures of dudes who got a combined total of 1000 pounds with squat, deadlift, and bench. I was a while away from making it but it was a cool long term goal and fantasy to have my face on a wall staring at all the scrubs with chicken legs.

It can still be a great long-term goal to do it just no picture.

SneakySnake
Feb 5, 2006

by Y Kant Ozma Post

holocaust bloopers posted:

It can still be a great long-term goal to do it just no picture.

Yeah it's still definitely a long-term goal I'm working on but I thought the wall was cool because it emphasized long term goal, commitments, and full-body workouts at a gym that's usually packed with groups of dudes jerking each other off as they do chest day for the fifth time in a week.

Ashmole
Oct 5, 2008

This wish was granted by Former DILF
I've got a pretty wide chest, I do well on push-ups, and I can lift a lot on a machine but my bench just loving sucks. I think it's either ne being a pussy or I have bad stabilizer muscles. Are there any exercises that target the stabilizers exclusively or should I man up and just do low weight bench presses?

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Ashmole posted:

I've got a pretty wide chest, I do well on push-ups, and I can lift a lot on a machine but my bench just loving sucks. I think it's either ne being a pussy or I have bad stabilizer muscles. Are there any exercises that target the stabilizers exclusively or should I man up and just do low weight bench presses?

Dumbbell bench.

Kaliber
Jun 17, 2005

Ashmole posted:

I've got a pretty wide chest, I do well on push-ups, and I can lift a lot on a machine but my bench just loving sucks. I think it's either ne being a pussy or I have bad stabilizer muscles. Are there any exercises that target the stabilizers exclusively or should I man up and just do low weight bench presses?


Stop doing the machine. More dumbbell bench and barbell bench.

Kaliber fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Mar 20, 2013

Manmower
Feb 22, 2013
How does CrossFit compare to a program like p90x? p90x currently seems pretty convenient for me as I can do it at home, but the cardio seems a bit light. Currently supplementing it with lots of running on the side and it seems to do the trick. From what I've heard being able to run fast and often is the most useful skill in the military, but this advice is coming from folks who don't exactly look like they do a lot of cardio.

Also I drank skim milk growing up as a kid =P

P.S. Another vote for dumbbells, they are great.

Captain Amerikkka
Mar 14, 2013
They're both terrible and wastes of time if you're serious about working out, so if you're into P90X crossfit should be right up your alley.

whats for dinner
Sep 25, 2006

IT TURN OUT METAL FOR DINNER!

Ashmole posted:

I've got a pretty wide chest, I do well on push-ups, and I can lift a lot on a machine but my bench just loving sucks. I think it's either ne being a pussy or I have bad stabilizer muscles. Are there any exercises that target the stabilizers exclusively or should I man up and just do low weight bench presses?

How's your bench technique? Not feeling stable is usually a result of not properly setting up the body to provide the best possible platform for benching. I really like Dave Tate's 'So You Think You Can Bench?' and Brandon Lilly's 'Bench 101' for showing the right set-up and motions. The two accessory exercises I found that helped the most were overhead barbell press and weighted dips.

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Kaliber
Jun 17, 2005

Manmower posted:

How does CrossFit compare to a program like p90x? p90x currently seems pretty convenient for me as I can do it at home, but the cardio seems a bit light. Currently supplementing it with lots of running on the side and it seems to do the trick. From what I've heard being able to run fast and often is the most useful skill in the military, but this advice is coming from folks who don't exactly look like they do a lot of cardio.

Also I drank skim milk growing up as a kid =P

P.S. Another vote for dumbbells, they are great.

P90X is the biggest waste of time ever if you're in decent shape. If you're a giant fat lard of a waste of space, then yes it's awesome. I personally hate CrossFit but it's great for some HIIT and cutting down. I do it once a week because I'm doing the CF body building routine right now and it turns my off day on Wed into a HIIT day.


And hammer strength machines are AMAZING!!!! I stopped doing barbell and dumbbells and starting to cut with the CF body building routine. Just use the iso machines and my chest/shoulders/back are looking amazing because of those machines.

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