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Also I need to question the use solely of e-harmnoy, eschewing other sites like match, chemistry, christian mingle, j-date, and apps like grindr.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Hey Salt Lake City. What up? Urban centers are generally more liberal no matter where you go. There were a *lot* of LGBT flags the last time I was in Boise, for example. LP97S posted:Also I need to question the use solely of e-harmnoy, eschewing other sites like match, chemistry, christian mingle, j-date, and apps like grindr. It's their own users as far as I can tell, which is useful in that the other sites are behind a pay wall and so skew to those specific interests (christian mingle for example is probably full of crazies).
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Guavanaut posted:Contrasted with: Contrasted with:  Starting to notice a trend here...
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Contrasted with: Diabeetus.jpg 
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menino posted:Diabeetus.jpg I've started to think there's something fishy about Colorado's health data. Counties in Colorado almost always have much better ratings than neighboring counties in other states. No other state stands out as being so starkly different than its neighbors.
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Mu Cow posted:I've started to think there's something fishy about Colorado's health data. Counties in Colorado almost always have much better ratings than neighboring counties in other states. No other state stands out as being so starkly different than its neighbors. Have you ever been to Colorado? It's actually an extremely health- and fitness-conscious state, with a huge emphasis put on outdoorsmanship, hiking, biking, etc. in all of the large communities.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Have you ever been to Colorado? It's actually an extremely health- and fitness-conscious state, with a huge emphasis put on outdoorsmanship, hiking, biking, etc. in all of the large communities. Don't forget that pretty much everything in Colorado is uphill from everything else.
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Mu Cow posted:I've started to think there's something fishy about Colorado's health data. Counties in Colorado almost always have much better ratings than neighboring counties in other states. No other state stands out as being so starkly different than its neighbors. Colorado is just really healthy. 
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Mu Cow posted:I've started to think there's something fishy about Colorado's health data. Counties in Colorado almost always have much better ratings than neighboring counties in other states. No other state stands out as being so starkly different than its neighbors. Yeah, but its neighboring states are Nebraska, Kansas, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming. It's a state full of outdoor recreational opportunities and wonderful beer. The best state.
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Muscle Tracer posted:Have you ever been to Colorado? It's actually an extremely health- and fitness-conscious state, with a huge emphasis put on outdoorsmanship, hiking, biking, etc. in all of the large communities. I lived in Denver, and I observed this, but only in the Denver and Boulder area. So I can accept Denverites being unusually healthy and I can accept that Colorado as a whole is a healthier place to live than most of the US. What I don't get is why there's such a noticeable difference in health between rural Colorado counties and bordering rural counties just over the state line. I have a hard time believing that life in rural Colorado is that much different than in rural Utah or Kansas.
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It's in the Colorado Constitution. All county-level health departments report directly to a state Board of Tourism.
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Someone take all these obesity and life expectancy charts and overlay it onto a map showing poverty.
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Peanut President posted:Someone take all these obesity and life expectancy charts and overlay it onto a map showing poverty. That's pretty much exactly what people were doing?
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All I'm seeing is obesity, life expectancy, diabetes, and gay rights?
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Peanut President posted:All I'm seeing is obesity, life expectancy, diabetes, and gay rights? The second one posted was the Human Development Index which includes relative income.
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a pipe smoking dog posted:The second one posted was the Human Development Index which includes relative income. And was used as a "lol Mississippi" joke. If you understand that race is correlated with poverty, this map is why there's so much poverty/obesity/etc in that state.  (Mississippi has the highest black percentage population, at 37%)
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Openness to foreigners, worldwide: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs..._washingtonpost The accompanying blogpost says there isn't a unifying theory here, but I disagree. I think it's pretty clear that countries with more nationalistic governments are less welcoming to foreigners. China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, Argentina, Pakistan... With a few inexplicable outliers. Why you hate foreigners so much, Denmark?
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Andy Impey posted:Openness to foreigners, worldwide: How the hell is Japan more welcoming of foreigners than the US and Denmark?
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Dr. Tough posted:How the hell is Japan more welcoming of foreigners than the US and Denmark? Yeah Japan should basically be crimson red or whatever if those stories about the insane amount of racism there hold any water. 
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Lawman 0 posted:Yeah Japan should basically be crimson red or whatever if those stories about the insane amount of racism there hold any water. They probably mean tourists instead of immigrants.
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“How welcome are foreign visitors in your country?” could mean both tourists and immigrants.
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computer parts posted:And was used as a "lol Mississippi" joke.  Now someone needs to post a map showing mid-19th century cotton production in the United States by county. Andy Impey posted:Why you hate foreigners so much, Denmark?
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dethslayer666 posted:
I'm actually surprised at France being so blue since a recent poll had something like "69% thinks there are too many immigrants".
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dethslayer666 posted:Now someone needs to post a map showing mid-19th century cotton production in the United States by county. Not quite what you were asking for, but in the neighborhood. 
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dethslayer666 posted:2012 election results by county: Here's slave population by county in 1860  Big version
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Andy Impey posted:With a few inexplicable outliers. Why you hate foreigners so much, Denmark? WEF posted:Attitude of population toward foreign visitors And since people wondered about them, Japan is 6.2 and the US 6.0. *We probably do deserve the least friendly award among the Nordic Countries, we're kind of dicks.
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Kurtofan posted:I'm actually surprised at France being so blue since a recent poll had something like "69% thinks there are too many immigrants".
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Geology also. Coastline 85 million years ago   I think this was posted before.
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11 years with a right wing government which got majority with the help of the ultra racist Danks folkeparty ( Danish peoples party). They passed some really lovely laws and made the public discourse take a sharp right regarding immigrants, especially towards muslims and people from eastern Europe. White people from the west are okay though. Its really sad though, recently TV2 news ( our second largest news provider) had an embarrising story, where they mistook a picture from assassins creed showing medieval Damaskus, as the real deal and had a repport about the syrian civil war with that picture as the background. I sadly believe that this mistake happened since it's okay to say and believe that all muslims live in medieval shitholes 
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computer parts posted:Urban centers are generally more liberal no matter where you go. There were a *lot* of LGBT flags the last time I was in Boise, for example. SLC in particular has a big gay community, too. Where do you think all those rural Mormon kids whose hometowns want to kill or "convert" them end up?
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Space Gopher posted:SLC in particular has a big gay community, too. Where do you think all those rural Mormon kids whose hometowns want to kill or "convert" them end up? I think GLAAD (or the Advocate, one of the big gay publications/organizations) listed SLC as being the most gay-friendly city in America a few years back. That said, I noticed that map also included Canada a bit and noticed that Labrador (and presumably Newfoundland as well since they both constitute one province) has swung way into "hate dem gays" territory. Also that conservative stronghold Alberta likes the gays more than Ontario. That's kind of interesting.
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Intrusive Thoughts posted:I think GLAAD (or the Advocate, one of the big gay publications/organizations) listed SLC as being the most gay-friendly city in America a few years back. That said, I noticed that map also included Canada a bit and noticed that Labrador (and presumably Newfoundland as well since they both constitute one province) has swung way into "hate dem gays" territory. Also that conservative stronghold Alberta likes the gays more than Ontario. That's kind of interesting. The varying shades of orange across the rest of the country may not even be statistically significant.
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Andy Impey posted:Openness to foreigners, worldwide: Is it me or is this map... horseshit? China was the most welcoming place I've ever been. I think the key may be that they asked people how welcoming they'd be. Chinese people like to get fired up with *talk* about how nationalistic they are. This breaks down completely at the individual level- like how there are still gun shows in Blue states and gay bars in Red states etc. Like whenever there's some anti-Japanese thing in the news, in China there are anti-Japanese protests and the sushi restaurants put up big Chinese flags... but are still open for business because guess what, Chinese people will still gladly enjoy Japanese food.
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Russell William Thorpe posted:Is it me or is this map... horseshit? China was the most welcoming place I've ever been. I think the key may be that they asked people how welcoming they'd be. Chinese people like to get fired up with *talk* about how nationalistic they are. This breaks down completely at the individual level- like how there are still gun shows in Blue states and gay bars in Red states etc. Like whenever there's some anti-Japanese thing in the news, in China there are anti-Japanese protests and the sushi restaurants put up big Chinese flags... but are still open for business because guess what, Chinese people will still gladly enjoy Japanese food. The nationalism stuff isn't just talk though- to use the example you cite, it's not as though the anti-Japanese protests have been limited to figurative or symbolic actions.
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Russell William Thorpe posted:Is it me or is this map... horseshit? China was the most welcoming place I've ever been. I think the key may be that they asked people how welcoming they'd be. Chinese people like to get fired up with *talk* about how nationalistic they are. This breaks down completely at the individual level- like how there are still gun shows in Blue states and gay bars in Red states etc. Like whenever there's some anti-Japanese thing in the news, in China there are anti-Japanese protests and the sushi restaurants put up big Chinese flags... but are still open for business because guess what, Chinese people will still gladly enjoy Japanese food. Did you go to the parts of China that are closed to foreigners without the government's approval?
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Russell William Thorpe posted:Is it me or is this map... horseshit? China was the most welcoming place I've ever been. I think the key may be that they asked people how welcoming they'd be. Chinese people like to get fired up with *talk* about how nationalistic they are. This breaks down completely at the individual level- like how there are still gun shows in Blue states and gay bars in Red states etc. Like whenever there's some anti-Japanese thing in the news, in China there are anti-Japanese protests and the sushi restaurants put up big Chinese flags... but are still open for business because guess what, Chinese people will still gladly enjoy Japanese food. Part of the problem is going to China can be a crapshoot. This map has obvious flaws because labeling such a huge geographical area with more than a billion people and all kinds of closed, not closed, for tourists, exposed to tourists, never seen a foreigner, etc places is not easy. They used an index which is probably inaccurate for much of the country. It also could be a people vs government divide or anything you could imagine.
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Russell William Thorpe posted:Is it me or is this map... horseshit? China was the most welcoming place I've ever been. I think the key may be that they asked people how welcoming they'd be. Chinese people like to get fired up with *talk* about how nationalistic they are. This breaks down completely at the individual level- like how there are still gun shows in Blue states and gay bars in Red states etc. Like whenever there's some anti-Japanese thing in the news, in China there are anti-Japanese protests and the sushi restaurants put up big Chinese flags... but are still open for business because guess what, Chinese people will still gladly enjoy Japanese food. China scored itself as a 5.5/7. While that's only good enough for 130th of the 140 countries on the report, it doesn't really seem like a terribly bad score. If the range of that map was the full 1-7 available on the survey, no countries would be in the red, and only Bolivia and Venezuela would be that ridiculous purple color that they chose between the red and blue.
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The map is so meaningless as to be useless. People treat different foreigners differently. A pasty white man doesn't get the same reception as a black man in most countries of the world, not to mention in some of the Eastern European countries. The Chinese diaspora get a much better reception in China than a Japanese, but we're all considered "foreign visitors" in that survey. I don't know what company, academic or layman can meaningfully use that map.
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Russell William Thorpe posted:Is it me or is this map... horseshit? China was the most welcoming place I've ever been. I think the key may be that they asked people how welcoming they'd be. Chinese people like to get fired up with *talk* about how nationalistic they are. This breaks down completely at the individual level- like how there are still gun shows in Blue states and gay bars in Red states etc. Like whenever there's some anti-Japanese thing in the news, in China there are anti-Japanese protests and the sushi restaurants put up big Chinese flags... but are still open for business because guess what, Chinese people will still gladly enjoy Japanese food. There are plenty of problems with the data but this isn't a very good argument against it - having gay bars in red states does not make those states gay-friendly, and enjoying Japanese food doesn't mean you like Japanese people (hell, 'enjoying Japanese products but not liking Japanese people' is virtually a stereotype for Chinese and Koreans). Not to mention that there's a world of difference between whatever anecdotal experience you had and the statistical average experience of 'foreign visitors' in general. For any positive anecdote someone else can bring up a negative one.
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