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Baron Dirigible posted:I think I've now got a versatile lens setup that should see me through anything, though I'm still going to be tempted by the Pana 42 1.2 when it comes out! I'm already tempted by that lens even before it comes out!
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ease posted:I'm late to this train, but I'd say get the 5r. You get better AF and wifi (which is kinda gimmicky but things like on camera time lapse is kinda neat), a dial and an FN button. I got the 5R, it was actually the same price as the 5N. The FN button and wifi sold me. I can't wait to use it. Thanks goons!
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Out of the several photographers that I know that routinely shoot for money - they've all gone from last year wondering why I had a gimmicky X100 to "how do I afford one of these, they're really cool?"
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Everybody who asked how much my x100 was (because they wanted to buy one) was like holy poo poo thats expensive for a point and shoot. I just say that yeah it is. I prefer using it over my 5d2 and 35 1.4 L for daily stuff though, and for that, it's well worth it. e: But I'm heavily considering selling my 5d2, 35L, xpro1, and some other stuff. I don't shoot very much and my x100 will be more than enough for 90% of my shooting.
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Rontalvos posted:The internet groupthink on the dpreview and fuji-x series forums seem to suggest that X100 cameras with serial numbers starting with 21 and up, sticky aperture problems are non-existant/extremely rare. I am in the same boat as you, with a 21A SN and over 5k shots fired without an issue.
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Cacator posted:Nobody I've met considers it a gimmick camera. But the issue is that people have no idea how to work it unless I give them explicit instructions. HELP HOW DO YOU ZOOM THIS THING
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I don't think anybody ever considered the Konica Hexar, Contax T series, Leica Minilux, etc. to be gimmick cameras. High-end P&S have been a thing forever.
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What makes the X-100 a "point and shoot"? Just because you can't change lenses? It's no more "P&S" than a DSLR shot in "Auto" or even "P(ro)" mode. It has full manual controls so I hardly put it in the P&S category.
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It's really just a colloquialism I think. People see a small thin body and a short stubby lens and just assume it's one of those $120 Nikon coolpix whatevers that you get at BestBuy which has perma-P-mode enabled.
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RustedChrome posted:What makes the X-100 a "point and shoot"? Just because you can't change lenses? It's no more "P&S" than a DSLR shot in "Auto" or even "P(ro)" mode. It has full manual controls so I hardly put it in the P&S category. I don't know, is there a better name for it? I don't consider "point and shoot" to be a bad thing. It's not an SLR, it's not a TLR, it's not a rangefinder, it's not fixed focus, it's not scale focus. I guess you could call it a view camera, but the same could be said about just about any digital P&S. The other cameras I mentioned have manual modes too, but they're generally considered to be P&S. I'd even consider a Contax G a P&S. I'd rather just call it a P&S than invent yet another acronym that nobody knows and nobody can agree on.
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A point & shoot camera has minimal controls. You literally just point it towards your subject and press the shutter. A better term that dates back to the film days is to call the smaller, advanced cameras "compacts" instead of lumping them in with cameras that require no thought to use.
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FasterThanLight posted:I don't know, is there a better name for it? I don't consider "point and shoot" to be a bad thing. It's not an SLR, it's not a TLR, it's not a rangefinder, it's not fixed focus, it's not scale focus. I guess you could call it a view camera, but the same could be said about just about any digital P&S. The other cameras I mentioned have manual modes too, but they're generally considered to be P&S. I'd even consider a Contax G a P&S. I'd rather just call it a P&S than invent yet another acronym that nobody knows and nobody can agree on. Well advanced fixed-lens cameras like the RX100, RX1 and X100s are relatively new in the history of digital cameras so I think it will take some time before a better term is established for them, much like how point & shoot was used commonly to refer to the old basic Coolpix/Powershot/Cybershot cameras.
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Cameras fall in two categories: cameras for normals and cameras for spergs.
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Having just taken my camera on a long business trip, I now feel that 14mm is great as an 'always get stuff in' lens, but much too wide for a lot of photos. I guess it is time to seriously consider the 20mm 1.7 (if I feel rich) or the Sigma 19mm 2.8 (if I feel poor). What's a good portrait lens? the kit 14-42 would be okay, but f5.6 is just too goddam slow.
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spog posted:Having just taken my camera on a long business trip, I now feel that 14mm is great as an 'always get stuff in' lens, but much too wide for a lot of photos. The Olympus 45mm 1.8 is great but also not massively expensive.
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EvilRic posted:The Olympus 45mm 1.8 is great but also not massively expensive. Absolutely this. Fantastic lens.
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DJExile posted:Absolutely this. Fantastic lens. AMEN. There's no need to even have an M4/3 camera if you're not getting THIS LENS.
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Some of us already have 50/1.4's to slap onto the front of their cameras. 
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Mr. Despair posted:Some of us already have 50/1.4's to slap onto the front of their cameras. Fair statement, that does truly have to be the toughest m4/3 decision there is, deciding between the pana-leica 50 and the oly' 45 - they're both pretty much watershed lenses for the system. on a different note, I am the US ambassador to poor impulse control - this is what happens when you spend 7 months sidelined by a knee injury instead of out taking photos:  Obsessive by Trip Sixes, on Flickr 
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I took the 5N out shooting yesterday. The photos I took were fairly pedestrian and actually really boring, but god drat when viewed at web size even underexposed ISO6400 looks beautiful out of this bad boy. There is definitely grain when viewed 1:1, and it's actually a really fine grain that doesn't detract from the photo. When viewed at web resolutions I would swear that the grain is invisible. Hard to describe, but needless to say it makes shooting 1/30 after dark much much easier. It's weird shooting with a rear-LCD-only camera though. Part of me was self-conscious about it for some reason, but the fact that the camera is goddamn tiny is really really pleasing. Once I get back into the habit of shooting photos I think I'm going to be much happier with my results, and my camera is definitely not going to be what's holding me back.
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The NEX grain is really pleasing and has a very film-like quality on its' own, you almost don't need to toss on any film simulation at all.
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krackmonkey posted:The NEX grain is really pleasing and has a very film-like quality on its' own, you almost don't need to toss on any film simulation at all. That was my first impression as well. This 6mb 1:1 JPEG is basically RAW out of camera with whatever Lightroom 4 applies by default: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/58959/test.jpg I think it does some chroma noise by default? I'm PRETTY sure that out of camera RAW isn't that uniform in noise colour at least. But yeah, I have absolutely zero problems with that noise considering I'm shooting 1/30 in a dark train station lit only by a handful of lamps. Supremely pleased. edit: Yes, I know it's a poo poo photo otherwise 
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krackmonkey posted:Fair statement, that does truly have to be the toughest m4/3 decision there is, deciding between the pana-leica 50 and the oly' 45 - they're both pretty much watershed lenses for the system. Just you wait until I get my Leica M. Then we'll see who has less self-control. Dat fukken RX1...
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EvilRic posted:The Olympus 45mm 1.8 is great but also not massively expensive. One of the rare lenses that breaks the old saying of "cheap, fast, good: pick any two" - because it is all three.
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EvilRic posted:The Olympus 45mm 1.8 is great but also not massively expensive. DJExile posted:Absolutely this. Fantastic lens. krackmonkey posted:AMEN. There's no need to even have an M4/3 camera if you're not getting THIS LENS. alkanphel posted:One of the rare lenses that breaks the old saying of "cheap, fast, good: pick any two" - because it is all three. I am detecting a theme here.... Maybe if I get the 45mm to go with my 14mm, then I won't need to buy a 19/20mm (who am I kidding)
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Has anyone tried the Sony 12-200 E-mount power zoom with a NEX body? I'm participating in a 48 hour film festival in a few weeks and thought it might be interesting to rent for a few days.
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spog posted:I am detecting a theme here.... If you think the 14mm is too wide, you could probably sell it easily and get the Lumix 20mm f/1.7. It's a fantastic walk-around.
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I got a few accessories recently This one is for XE1 owners. Hard screen protector.  This is the right size for the XE1 screen. The height matches and its only 1-2mm wider than screen. It has thick foam/double sideed tape to raise the protector a bit, plus good seal to prevent dust. Cheap from ebay, I recommend. 2. Thumbs Up Grip  Originally a Leica accessory. The generic bootleg ones are getting alot cheaper now. XE1's shutter button is way too close to the palm position. Without this its very hard to take picture single handed. This adds minimal bulk for huge ergonomic improvement. 3. Tripod Mount straps  Originally I was trying them for an easier duel wielding solution. They worked so well I am going to use them to replace the regular straps now. To sum up the reasons: easier to let my belt and shoulder share the weight of heavier gears; less intrusive when shooting; naturally drop to the side even when I don't have time to put the gear back to belt bag. The first is a 10 dollar strap that I got from ebay. I have seen a few cheap alternatives outside of the hilariously expensive stuff from Spider Hostler. The second one is the base of a hand strap I re-purposed as a tripod mount strap. I use it with heavy lens because it pushes my hand further out and make the camera easier to grab.
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DJExile posted:If you think the 14mm is too wide, you could probably sell it easily and get the Lumix 20mm f/1.7. It's a fantastic walk-around. Well, it's more that I don't particularly like 14mm as a walkaround lens: the distortion and excessive foreground aren't to my taste. however, 5-10% of my general photos need the extra width of 14mm and 20mm would mean my missing out on certain shots. As you know - you can always crop in, but not out. I personally love 60-80mm equiv as a focal length, but it's not suitable as a walkaround lens.
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spog posted:Well, it's more that I don't particularly like 14mm as a walkaround lens: the distortion and excessive foreground aren't to my taste. however, 5-10% of my general photos need the extra width of 14mm and 20mm would mean my missing out on certain shots. As you know - you can always crop in, but not out. Oh, that's fair then.
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The takumar SMC 35/3.5 is am awesome awesome lens when adapted. So sharp and pretty and nice to use.  PIXELPEEPTEST by MrDespair, on Flickr
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DJExile posted:Oh, that's fair then. I am considering your suggestion though: the 14mm is a lens that shoots 100% of the scenes, but is only ideal for ~20% of them and poor for ~50% of them. Maybe it is better to have something that it ideal for 50% of them and cannot work for 10% of them. Or whatever, I should buy more stuff....
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Are there any other wide/uw lenses out there like the Zeiss 21mm that have a hard stop at infinity focus? That's extremely useful for the type of shooting I do, and I never knew that it actually existed.
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Helicity posted:Are there any other wide/uw lenses out there like the Zeiss 21mm that have a hard stop at infinity focus? That's extremely useful for the type of shooting I do, and I never knew that it actually existed. There's a ton of manual lenses that you can get with a hard stop (my voigtlander 15mm has one), BUT the issue is with the adapters. If they aren't perfect (and alot of the cheap 10 dollar ones aren't) then you'll skip past it. Fixable with shims and some patience, or you can just pay extra for a really well made adapter.
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That's a good point with the adapter - who makes good ones? I have a Fotodiox, but I feel like it doesn't match up with one my Taks very well and they have ignored several email questions from me. My Taks and my Minoltas don't have the hard stop, so I was wondering if there was a cutoff year or something, or certain brands that I could look more deeply into.
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Helicity posted:That's a good point with the adapter - who makes good ones? I have a Fotodiox, but I feel like it doesn't match up with one my Taks very well and they have ignored several email questions from me. My Taks and my Minoltas don't have the hard stop, so I was wondering if there was a cutoff year or something, or certain brands that I could look more deeply into. My 35/3.5 takumar has a hard stop at infinity, I think most of m;y SMC-M pentax lenses to too, . That said the two brands of "nice" adapters I always see are Fotodix Pro and Novoflex (which is the real high end option). If I was shooting for a job and wanted to adapt I'd probably get one of the novoflex ones, they look like solid one piece units instead of the two piece 10 dollar ones.
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