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Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

crazyfish posted:

Thanks. I did post on their facebook but heard nothing back yet. Is last year's still on the shelf for you generally?

I haven't seen the 2012 version on the shelves in a very long time, I don't think the 2013 has hit yet.

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Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
New Sofie is on the shelves, they've changed the bottle to 750ml from 650ml for the same price. The new bottle reminds me of a wine bottle now. I can't wait to pick up a 4 pack.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man
so, i attended the first night of part one of Mekong's 18th anniversary celebration and tasted/drank quite a lot of beer, although some is not worth noting. best thing was 2009 Oak-Aged Yeti- incredibly rich, with nice accents of wood and chocolate, and ridiculously drinkable. much better than the 2009 Espresso Oak-Aged Yeti whose hops have become a weird, grassy aftertaste that doesn't mesh terribly well with the beer. it was still good, but not great. a little disappointed with Flanders Fred, a beer that i loved when it first came around, but the flavors seemed muted this time around. odd. the one i had a tough time finishing, though, was the Ola Dubh 18 year. a good beer by itself, but it was subjected to a wine barrel through B United's Zymatore project and the outcome was this odd, tart, slightly sour beer that was hardly related to the original. my friend really liked it, but he's a wine drinker, so maybe it was just me. oh, and Imperial Biscotti Break slipped through the cracks and was not on the menu, but i spotted the tap handle, so i got to drink in some of that Hershey's-style syrupy goodness. not a bad night, especially considering the minimal tab.

Vertigo
Jul 15, 2002

Today is a good day. Went to the local distributor for some beer.
Found cases of Duck Rabbit Rabid Duck, and my yearly favorite, Weyerbacher's Heresy..

Still debating picking up the case of Speedway they have sitting there... and the case of Victory Oak Horizontal is also calling me.

ChickenArise
May 12, 2010

POWER
= MEAT +
OPPORTUNITY
= BATTLEWORMS

funkybottoms posted:

UGH, what the gently caress does that mean? i thought DC Brau had already been rocking the socialist propaganda art angle (red, black, and white? three stars? hmm...), so they're kinda bitin' on them, and from the picture on their facebook, they live in a loving subdivision, which is not exactly revolutionary (particularly in western Loudoun County). also, their poo poo is just plain ugly.

oh, and the beer name/acronyms- which i'm not gonna dignify by typing out- stand for "Black As Your Soul" and "God Is An American"

Following up on this, I managed to get onto their taster list and I have a bottle of the stout: hazelnut/cherry aged on rye barrels. I took some pics of the ridiculous packaging, and I'll see about 'reviewing' it this weekend.

Paul Proteus
Dec 6, 2007

Zombina says "si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes!"

Midorka posted:

New Sofie is on the shelves, they've changed the bottle to 750ml from 650ml for the same price. The new bottle reminds me of a wine bottle now. I can't wait to pick up a 4 pack.

It's actually a 765. Not sure why the weird size; maybe ubik can explain.

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat
Went to the same event as funkybottoms. '09 Backwood Bastard (or "Backwards Bastard" on their menu) was the highlight of my night, with ABT 12 on oak being the letdown--a fantastic beer, but I couldn't detect much oak at all and it didn't seem that far from the normal variety. Imperial Biscotti Break was also deliciously chocolate-filled and satisfying, though I won't be going out of my way to try getting a bottle.

I do regret not getting the Brandy-aged Ovila and I hope it's still there when I head back. The folks I went with pussied out at like 9:30 so I didn't have the opportunity to try anything else.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Kraven Moorhed posted:

Went to the same event as funkybottoms. '09 Backwood Bastard (or "Backwards Bastard" on their menu) was the highlight of my night, with ABT 12 on oak being the letdown--a fantastic beer, but I couldn't detect much oak at all and it didn't seem that far from the normal variety. Imperial Biscotti Break was also deliciously chocolate-filled and satisfying, though I won't be going out of my way to try getting a bottle.

I do regret not getting the Brandy-aged Ovila and I hope it's still there when I head back. The folks I went with pussied out at like 9:30 so I didn't have the opportunity to try anything else.

yeah, you guys left early- is your friend's lady not into the beer scene? the Ovila was still on this afternoon, but the Oak-Aged Yeti and Bourbon GBS were kicked and (as you might've seen) 2011 Calvados JW Lees Harvest is now on. and yeah, wasn't in love with that ABT 12, either.

Sublimer
Sep 20, 2007
get yo' game up


Vertigo posted:

Still debating picking up the case of Speedway they have sitting there... and the case of Victory Oak Horizontal is also calling me.

I had a 2010 Speedway the other day... probably the smoothest 12% beer I've ever had. You better pick up that case!

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Vertigo posted:

and the case of Victory Oak Horizontal is also calling me.

No. Don't. It's not worth buying a case of. It's far too hot and has a very unrefined taste. It'll get better with age, but I don't think it'll be worth getting a case of. Honestly you should just drive over to New Jersey so you can buy beer one at a time, or by the 6 pack.

Paul Proteus posted:

It's actually a 765. Not sure why the weird size; maybe ubik can explain.

Interesting. I didn't realize that. The bottle looks classy as gently caress in the new shape. The label already screamed "elegant" and the new shape of the bottle is wonderful.

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

How does straight up Bigfoot age? Should I hold a couple back or is it best fresh?

SketchyNick
Oct 15, 2005
I'd say its one of the beers that best holds up to age. Really fantastic fresh and 1+year.

edit - boo 4-packs

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Captain Shortbus posted:

How does straight up Bigfoot age? Should I hold a couple back or is it best fresh?

Its one of those beers that you should buy a 4 pack of each year. Drink one fresh, and keep drinking it, aging some for a long time. I had a 2001 Bigfoot recently and it was pretty stellar.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Captain Shortbus posted:

How does straight up Bigfoot age? Should I hold a couple back or is it best fresh?

Did an 11 year vertical a couple months ago and I liked the older ones better. Then again, I'm not a big fan of it fresh. The hops definitely die down and it comes off far more British than American at a certain point.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

Midorka posted:

No. Don't. It's not worth buying a case of. It's far too hot and has a very unrefined taste. It'll get better with age, but I don't think it'll be worth getting a case of. Honestly you should just drive over to New Jersey so you can buy beer one at a time, or by the 6 pack.

I have to respectfully disagree. Oak Horizontal is one of the best BA Barleywines I've had in awhile, and I didn't think it was too hot at all. I think it is one of the best barrel aged beers I've had in terms of how much barrel flavor it has, I don't find it overwhelming at all, and actually find it to be perfectly aged. I picked up two bottles and wish I had gotten many more. My biggest problem is going to be resisting drinking my last bottle, because it tasted so drat good fresh.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Kudosx posted:

I have to respectfully disagree. Oak Horizontal is one of the best BA Barleywines I've had in awhile, and I didn't think it was too hot at all. I think it is one of the best barrel aged beers I've had in terms of how much barrel flavor it has, I don't find it overwhelming at all, and actually find it to be perfectly aged. I picked up two bottles and wish I had gotten many more. My biggest problem is going to be resisting drinking my last bottle, because it tasted so drat good fresh.

That's very interesting and very conflicting. I love bourbon, but Oak Horizontal was just too boozy on the finish. I guess there may be consistency issues, but I thought this was a pretty weak offering. I'd rather have Old Horizontal back personally. I really wanted to love Oak Horizontal too. If you need help finding bottles though I can list you a few stores that have it.

Honestly the only BA beer Victory has done that I've enjoyed was Dark Intrigue, I think that's great. Red Thunder and Oak Horizontal did nothing for me. I have a White Monkey, but my hopes aren't high.

A beer I just fell in love with, though, is Port Brewing's Board Meeting. This has a prominent coffee and syrupy chocolate flavor and aroma that are my weaknesses in beer. This reminds me a bit of Bourbon County Coffee actually, minus the oak and bourbon notes. I am going to buy a few more of these ASAP.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Captain Shortbus posted:

How does straight up Bigfoot age? Should I hold a couple back or is it best fresh?

It ages amazingly well. Personally, I don't think it's all that great until it's had at least 2 or 3 years of age on it, but I don't really like hoppy barleywines when they are fresh.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
Anyone going to Churchkey tomorrow for the 3F/Half Acre/Revolution event?

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

It ages amazingly well. Personally, I don't think it's all that great until it's had at least 2 or 3 years of age on it, but I don't really like hoppy barleywines when they are fresh.

I prefer fresh Bigfoot (as does Ken Grossman, actually) myself.

//

In other news, I went to get Dayman's IPA at O'Brien's today and they were doing a huge event for a USA soccer match (which they do a lot). This guy walks up to the bartender and says, "do you have any Miller Lite?" and the bartender girl looks at him and says straight-faced, "sorry, we don't keep poo poo on tap."

Without missing a beat, he goes, "okay, I'll have a Sculpin."

:stare:

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 04:51 on Mar 27, 2013

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat

funkybottoms posted:

yeah, you guys left early- is your friend's lady not into the beer scene? the Ovila was still on this afternoon, but the Oak-Aged Yeti and Bourbon GBS were kicked and (as you might've seen) 2011 Calvados JW Lees Harvest is now on. and yeah, wasn't in love with that ABT 12, either.

Good to hear. That JW Lees is calling to me, too, so good to hear. I'll probably be hitting it up solo on Thursday to give some of the taps time to switch out and have a go at something new. As for the lady, I think she just wasn't feeling an event that night--got dragged along probably.

BoredByThis
Jul 13, 2001

Watch out! I'll attract you too!

Munkaboo posted:

Anyone going to Churchkey tomorrow for the 3F/Half Acre/Revolution event?

Nah, I'll just go to Half Acre/3F/Revolution...

But seriously, I did have a break in my booze hiatus this past weekend for a buddies birthday. I gifted him a bottle of Bolt Cutter, and I got to try a taste. I was not terribly impressed. Large hop presence (still) and way too hot on the finish. I was hoping for something along the lines of Nemesis'10, and this was not along those lines.

deedee megadoodoo
Sep 28, 2000
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I, I took the one to Flavortown, and that has made all the difference.


Kraven Moorhed posted:

Good to hear. That JW Lees is calling to me, too, so good to hear. I'll probably be hitting it up solo on Thursday to give some of the taps time to switch out and have a go at something new. As for the lady, I think she just wasn't feeling an event that night--got dragged along probably.

JW Lees is something I always seek out. It's so rare to see it on tap around here that I always make a point of going out of my way to have a taste. I really enjoy the sherry cask. It drinks almost like a port. The lagavulin cask was a bit of a disappointment. I think it picked up too many competing flavors and just didn't work for me. And I love lagavulin so it was almost a double disappointment. I have yet to see the calvados cask on tap anywhere around here but I do have a 2010 bottle in the cellar that I've been saving.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Vertigo posted:

Today is a good day. Went to the local distributor for some beer.
Found cases of Duck Rabbit Rabid Duck, and my yearly favorite, Weyerbacher's Heresy..

Still debating picking up the case of Speedway they have sitting there... and the case of Victory Oak Horizontal is also calling me.

The Victory barrel aged series are all pretty solid, I lucked into a few of them as extras in a trade (although I've seen Red Thunder on shelves). I'd let the Oak Horizontal sit for a while though.

Edit: heh, didn't read the Oak Horizontal discussion before I replied. I'm in the "it's too hot right now but good" crowd. I had it at a tasting so I only had 3 or 4 ounces of it. I definitely wouldn't open a 750 by myself, that's for sure.

Corb3t fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Mar 27, 2013

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

For those who are interested, France44 has Surly Pentagram in stock, limit 2 bottles. Placed my order before work this morning, figured I'd post it here before BA gets wind...

http://www.france44.com/search.htm?searchterm=surly&s_category=0&step=2

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Edit: heh, didn't read the Oak Horizontal discussion before I replied. I'm in the "it's too hot right now but good" crowd. I had it at a tasting so I only had 3 or 4 ounces of it. I definitely wouldn't open a 750 by myself, that's for sure.

Hmmm, I'm wondering if having too much to drink beforehand skewed my perception of it. It was pretty far into the lineup of a tasting I attended over at a friends house. It was just so drat smooth tasting at the time that it didn't come off hot in any way.

On the other hand, when I had Dark Intrigue when it was fresh, it tasted like drinking a thick, silky bourbon. It was super hot, and I never bought another bottle as a result, although I kind of wish I would have, because I'm sure it settled down quite a bit.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

crazyfish posted:

For those who are interested, France44 has Surly Pentagram in stock, limit 2 bottles. Placed my order before work this morning, figured I'd post it here before BA gets wind...

http://www.france44.com/search.htm?searchterm=surly&s_category=0&step=2

Good lookin out.

Corb3t
Jun 7, 2003

Any other Michiganders already sick of hearing about Oberon? Every bar and liquor store in Ann Arbor has been advertising it on social networks for the past week straight.

There was even a midnight release at Ashleys.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Any other Michiganders already sick of hearing about Oberon? Every bar and liquor store in Ann Arbor has been advertising it on social networks for the past week straight.

There was even a midnight release at Ashleys.

I love Bell's, but find Oberon pretty ordinary. Is it basically their cash-cow beer? What is the general perception of it? I haven't had it in a really, really long time, but have never made a point to seek it out.

ChickenArise
May 12, 2010

POWER
= MEAT +
OPPORTUNITY
= BATTLEWORMS
From my vantage over here in VA, we get tons of Oberon. I like to grab at least a few 6-packs (and some pints) over the Summer for something light and refreshing.

Furious Lobster
Jun 17, 2006

Soiled Meat

LeeMajors posted:

I love Bell's, but find Oberon pretty ordinary. Is it basically their cash-cow beer? What is the general perception of it? I haven't had it in a really, really long time, but have never made a point to seek it out.

According to the owner of Bell's, Oberon and Two Hearted account for over 70% of their sales. It's a great summer beer but there aren't any necessary special points. I think that in a side-by-side comparison, Two Hearted is a far better beer in terms of quality.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!
There are SO many better summer beers.

Victory Summer Love 4 lyfe

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Furious Lobster posted:

I think that in a side-by-side comparison, Two Hearted is a far better beer in terms of quality.

In a side-by-side, there's not much better than Two Hearted.


Munkaboo posted:

Victory Summer Love 4 lyfe

A big thank you to this thread for introducing me to Summer Love. Absolutely amazing beer.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Furious Lobster posted:

I think that in a side-by-side comparison, Two Hearted is a far better beer in terms of quality.

Two hearted is one of the best beers in existence, in my unqualified opinion.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

This'll be my first summer in 9 years spent without the benefit of Saint Arnold Lawnmower and I have to admit, I miss it. Light bodied ales 4 lyfe

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Any other Michiganders already sick of hearing about Oberon? Every bar and liquor store in Ann Arbor has been advertising it on social networks for the past week straight.

There was even a midnight release at Ashleys.

No because I haven't been able to find it yet down here in Indiana :smith: It's coming though! I do like it a lot but I had a ton of people posting about it on FB a couple days ago, which seemed a little extreme to me.

LeeMajors posted:

Two hearted is one of the best beers in existence, in my unqualified opinion.

Also this.

air-
Sep 24, 2007

Who will win the greatest battle of them all?

SUPER HASSLER posted:

This'll be my first summer in 9 years spent without the benefit of Saint Arnold Lawnmower and I have to admit, I miss it. Light bodied ales 4 lyfe

These days, everyone drinks Weedwacker though ;) Nothing matches Apollo as my summer beer and I'm ecstatic about that coming back soon. Though Victory's Shift saison is also around as well.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

LeeMajors posted:

Two hearted is one of the best beers in existence, in my unqualified opinion.

Agree with this. I'm excessively spoiled to be able to drink this stuff year round.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

I dunno, I think Oberon is pretty delicious, but to make a big fuss over its release is ridiculous. It's a good beer, but it's not outstanding. More like something reliable that I'm going to enjoy that's widely on tap (but not in CO :(). Two Hearted is indeed better, but as far as a seasonal you can do way worse than Oberon. Also, I personally love GI's kolsch as a summer beer. It's probably partially because I grew up in Chicago, but it's just so easy to drink and has a perfect crisp, sweet flavor that goes well with a moderately humid Midwest evening.

Had another glass of Enjoy By :420: on tap for lunch today for my birthday. Still really good. If one were to brew a tea with fresh-picked hops, it might kinda taste like that... and I like it.

(Too bad Parry's is already on their last keg and most stores in the area are sold out.)

hellfaucet
Apr 7, 2009

Bag of Sun Chips posted:

Any other Michiganders already sick of hearing about Oberon? Every bar and liquor store in Ann Arbor has been advertising it on social networks for the past week straight.

There was even a midnight release at Ashleys.

Yes, seriously everyone just shut the gently caress up about Oberon, it's whatever.

crazyfish posted:

Agree with this. I'm excessively spoiled to be able to drink this stuff year round.

I agree with this as well. I aksed a few weeks ago about which MI beers to feature at my wedding and Two-Hearted was a no-brainer. My cousins who live out-of-state all requested this or said that their significant others loved Two-Hearted. It's seriously just one of those quintessential IPAs that can't be any more perfect.

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C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Eejit posted:

Had another glass of Enjoy By :420: on tap for lunch today for my birthday. Still really good. If one were to brew a tea with fresh-picked hops, it might kinda taste like that... and I like it.

'sup birthday buddy :hfive: Going out to a great beer bar with some co-workers in a little while, hopefully they've gotten their Oberon tap going. It'll be my first glass of the season, and it's finally starting to get warm so good timing.

E: This place has an amazing selection regardless, they rotate the taps every few days so I'll try to snag a picture of the menu or something.

C-Euro fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 28, 2013

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