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Necroneocon posted:*says the person still unable to play HOI3 but can play WitE just fine* HOI3 has a better OOB manager, but I think WITE's counters do a better job of letting you take stock of a front and checking where you can attack. Heck, HOI2 with sprites did a better job.
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gradenko_2000 posted:HOI3 has a better OOB manager, but I think WITE's counters do a better job of letting you take stock of a front and checking where you can attack. Heck, HOI2 with sprites did a better job. I loaded HOI3 over the weekend to see if I could play it, but still... a bit overwhelmed. Thus, i'm waiting for the glorious goon LP tutorial on how to play HOI3 that i'd even pay a forums upgrade for at this point.
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Watuhboy posted:Just sent a Key to NextSundayA.D. via hotmail. Ah, my bad - yoreda (at) hotmail (dot) com will reach me! Thanks!
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Necroneocon posted:I loaded HOI3 over the weekend to see if I could play it, but still... a bit overwhelmed. Thus, i'm waiting for the glorious goon LP tutorial on how to play HOI3 that i'd even pay a forums upgrade for at this point. I'm not even sure how much that would help - I read some of the AARs and I understand the system, but handling division sized units in tiny provinces with hour long turns just burns me out on micromanagement after an hour or so, and I don't think the AI can handle Barbarossa on the German side with historical forces. I still can have fun with Case Yellow from both sides because it's small scale enough that the micro doesn't destroy me, but I wish they would just make provinces 4X bigger and use corps sized units (which would also make it feel like a strategy game instead of a giant operational exercise).
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Now we know what Paradox's doing all day instead of working their asses off, they're making a musical based on the love story between the poor and weak Ulm and mighty France! And we even get previews of a couple of songs! http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?679750-Europa-Universalis-The-Musical-announced! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H67FQX5ZLE oscarthewilde fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Apr 1, 2013 |
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Wait, you can rotate the camera in EUIV? Upside-down game here I come
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DrSunshine posted:DUDE!! I would so totally buy a Zombie expansion. I hope that what it is, is that they made this as an April Fools joke, but only to cover for actually releasing it in secret for Halloween. That would be just amazing. Also: Zombie succession is hilarious. This would be the biggest Paradox  in history, I can seriously see this happening after they said that Sunset Invasion sold well enough that they wanted to do more fantasy / althistory DLC in future.
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Myssu posted:Ah, my bad - yoreda (at) hotmail (dot) com will reach me! Sent. Enjoy!
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Enrico Dandolo posted:I'm gonna orient my camera to the orient. If you choose a muslim country you must orient your camera towards mecca 5 times a century.
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RabidWeasel posted:This would be the biggest Paradox Switch to a different kind of game along with a different genera. Once the zombie events fire up the game suddenly turns into an open world medieval zombie survival FPS with no warning 
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oscarthewilde posted:Now we know what Paradox's doing all day instead of working their asses off, they're making a musical based on the love story between the poor and weak Ulm and mighty France! And we even get previews of a couple of songs! I'm surprised this isn't getting any love. Paradox put a lot of effort into this silly joke video, the best company 
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Farecoal posted:Wait, you can rotate the camera in EUIV? Upside-down game here I come Probably not. They showed the same effect in trailers for CKII but didn't include the rotation/angling function in the release. 
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Fintilgin posted:Probably not. They showed the same effect in trailers for CKII but didn't include the rotation/angling function in the release. It would be cool if they used the Civ IV effect and started out with the whole map only being the known world, and it was oriented to your country like this map from ~1450 that has Africa to the north, 
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Fintilgin posted:Probably not. They showed the same effect in trailers for CKII but didn't include the rotation/angling function in the release. Which is odd, since it was in Rome
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Beamed posted:Which is odd, since it was in Rome The map rotation in Rome was bound to the middle mouse, which in V2 and CK2 is the map panning button. I frankly find map panning useful while rotation is cool so I can see why they included the panning instead of the rotating. Still though would be awesome to do both. burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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oscarthewilde posted:Now we know what Paradox's doing all day instead of working their asses off, they're making a musical based on the love story between the poor and weak Ulm and mighty France! And we even get previews of a couple of songs! I hope we get to see more of this.
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V for Vegas posted:It would be cool if they used the Civ IV effect and started out with the whole map only being the known world, and it was oriented to your country like this map from ~1450 that has Africa to the north, Technically that map still has Africa to the south. That particular style of map making always has the south on top.
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Okay, now I'm really not sure about EvW if that's their idea of an April Fool's prank
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?679738-East-vs.-West-WOMENS-s-Edition! So basically for April Fools the best they could think of was women in the kitchen jokes except they can't make them unironically, so they make them while saying they're bad, except they present their "women's edition" as being both totally equal to the men's edition and breaking the barriers of gender inequality, and a joke. I'm not sure whether it's even offensive or what, it's just so painfully awkward more than anything else. Also I'm hoping the one guy who asked for a dev diary on social movements in EvW receives an answer other than "there aren't any"
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Pornographic Memory posted:Also I'm hoping the one guy who asked for a dev diary on social movements in EvW receives an answer other than "there aren't any" If the answer is anything other than "Oh yes that is a major focus of the game, expect a DD soon!" I give up. How do you do a Cold War game with no social movements? I'm not even talking about spergy ideas we had earlier like spreading rock and roll culture, I just mean stuff like "People are upset with your society, they want a communist/democratic one", and "You're kinda a regressive shitbag when it comes to minorities/women/gays, and what's worse your people have high CON or something and are not liking that. Your opposition just got a free popularity boost".
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?679738-East-vs.-West-WOMENS-s-Edition! Welp, Johan is probably smacking his head on a desk over and over again over what's probably going to be Magna Mundi v2 
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I never expected EvW to be any good, but I never expected it to light up like the loving Hindenberg either.
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?679738-East-vs.-West-WOMENS-s-Edition! You know, you would think that they would have to run something like this past the PR/Marketing department or something.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Also I'm hoping the one guy who asked for a dev diary on social movements in EvW receives an answer other than "there aren't any" They ignored the question but addressed the guy asking about the "Armour and Piercing stats" on tanks. Man I was hoping for a good Cold War game. 
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a bad enough dude posted:They ignored the question but addressed the guy asking about the "Armour and Piercing stats" on tanks. Man I was hoping for a good Cold War game. They started out with the military stuff instead of starting out with the political&Social systems. Hope died then.
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Wolfgang Pauli posted:http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?679738-East-vs.-West-WOMENS-s-Edition! Based on the URL alone, I was expecting this to be a MEN'S edition, like the vanilla game wasn't patriarchal enough or something.
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A MEN'S Edition joke lampooning the patriarchal nature of international politics would have been much funnier.
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DrProsek posted:If the answer is anything other than "Oh yes that is a major focus of the game, expect a DD soon!" I give up. How do you do a Cold War game with no social movements? I'm not even talking about spergy ideas we had earlier like spreading rock and roll culture, I just mean stuff like "People are upset with your society, they want a communist/democratic one", and "You're kinda a regressive shitbag when it comes to minorities/women/gays, and what's worse your people have high CON or something and are not liking that. Your opposition just got a free popularity boost". Yeah I'm not hoping for like a complete cultural history simulation, I just want some sort of modelling of internal dissent that's more detailed than "you have x% dissent, you take y penalties" or "you have x% revolt risk and must randomly slaughter large amounts of your citizens as a result".
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The era that contained Simone de Beauvoir, the mass transition of women into the industrial workforce in both the capitalist and communist blocs, birth control, abortion, massive changes to popular notions of sexuality. Yes, having a focus on women is a very funny joke! No one would actually assume that women would naturally be a major part of the story of the latter half of the twentieth century, right? Just put pictures of Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, and Golda Mier into the leaders lists and call it a day re: women, right guys?
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Patter Song posted:The era that contained Simone de Beauvoir, the mass transition of women into the industrial workforce in both the capitalist and communist blocs, birth control, abortion, massive changes to popular notions of sexuality. Yes, having a focus on women is a very funny joke! No one would actually assume that women would naturally be a major part of the story of the latter half of the twentieth century, right? Just put pictures of Margaret Thatcher, Indira Ghandi, and Golda Mier into the leaders lists and call it a day re: women, right guys? Yeah hope springs eternal but it's clear this is less Cold War: The Game and more World War III Sim #Whatever.
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Pornographic Memory posted:So basically for April Fools the best they could think of was women in the kitchen jokes except they can't make them unironically, so they make them while saying they're bad, except they present their "women's edition" as being both totally equal to the men's edition and breaking the barriers of gender inequality, and a joke. Protesting the view 'men are the standard, women are the deviation from the standard' is what feminism is all about. It's offensive.
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Yeah the Crusader Kings Z joke was much better. That was just awkward and ended up being sexist anyways in a horribly confusing way. Looks like I'm not buying East vs. West!
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Kavak posted:Yeah hope springs eternal but it's clear this is less Cold War: The Game and more World War III Sim #Whatever. Yeah, their lens for understanding the postwar world seems to boil down to heads of state and types of armaments, which isn't particularly interesting to me. Oh well, hopefully in a couple years another group will take a stab at the era and get it right.
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You know if they just stuck to power politics and a military system abstact enough to simulate proxy wars, EvW would rule. Paradox games are at their best when history roes off the rails, and nothing can cause that to happen as awesomely as nuclear warfare. But this combined with all the grognardy poo poo has this from a possible byy to me ignoring it entirely.
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V for Vegas posted:Protesting the view 'men are the standard, women are the deviation from the standard' is what feminism is all about. It's offensive. It's right there in The Second Sex. There's the idea (that Simone de Beauvoir opposed) that it's not just men are one category, women are another, it's that masculine is the default and feminine is inherently a divergent, abnormal variety. The Second Sex is an interesting read. Also, EvW is totally off my "potential purchase" radar.
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Let's not all jump onto the EvW=>Magna Mundi bandwagon. I'd really like it to be a nice (re)playable game after a patch or two that modders could expand on to smooth out the corners
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Cowcatcher posted:Let's not all jump onto the EvW=>Magna Mundi bandwagon. I'd really like it to be a nice (re)playable game after a patch or two that modders could expand on to smooth out the corners I think it'll still come out, but the developer's priorities appear to be beyond hope. If they apologize for this...thing and show that there's at least a framework for social/political movements, I'll reconsider buying it.
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