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John Brown what the gently caress are you talking about. Linkin Park? edit: new page, let's not have this idiotic conversation leak over. instead, can we do another nostalgia train? cash money chat go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUPkKX-8-A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iCd6UHR-3I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdWeEIPDZoA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d17iIHdmVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN_4z4EWjog thathonkey fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Apr 2, 2013 13:21
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Cash Money nostalgia chat, you say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjXGmI0yiXc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjCLLAhuEMs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq24UBSZtd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww9VlmXKYgs
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Apr 2, 2013 14:35
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Robert Analog posted:Cash Money nostalgia chat, you say? drat this post was my freshman year of football get hyped playlist. Took me back
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Apr 2, 2013 16:42
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Robert Analog posted:I'm late on Tyler chat but Wolf is actually pretty good aside from that song about his dad. Also Westside Connection was one of my favorite CDs in 7th grade/of all time so Ice Cube gets a pass for life. I can only hope "Bow Down" was the album you liked.
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Apr 2, 2013 17:00
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cardedagain posted:I can only hope "Bow Down" was the album you liked. Yeah I didn't realize they had another album until I just now googled it. I'm assuming it wasn't any good? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SX7KsU9MwEo
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Ovo posted:I know a guy who's doing a short doc about these guys, their EP is really good. Ah cool, what sort of doc if you don't mind me asking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfHNZralJUM
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hobbez posted:N: Ross plans to get those "gently caress niggaz" whacked and it's ok as long as he apologizes for date rapping.
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Apr 2, 2013 18:22
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Were people this mad when Eminem made songs like "Bitch, I'mma Kill You"? I'm pretty mad at Ross and all, but it seems like people forget that poo poo like this is said in rap all the god drat time.
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Apr 2, 2013 18:43
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thathonkey posted:John Brown what the gently caress are you talking about. Linkin Park? The way I was introduced to an unfamiliar genre. I thought that was pretty clear. animal drums posted:Hey everyone, let me tell you about how to get into rap in the most logical way: I personally listened to Linkin Park at the very height of their popularity, and then began to delve into more and more classics while still listening to Linkin Park. Therefore it's patently ridiculous that a young person would listen to the wu tang clan, and I can't fathom why they would listen to such old weird crap I didn't say it was crap lol. Wu-Tang was one of my favorite groups but I didn't start with them, and until now, never heard of anyone that did. But keep making poo poo up if you'd like. E: gently caress, @thathonkey I just read your edit in that post. John Brown fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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quote:Today GetOnDown announced the upcoming release of two seperate limited edition deluxe packages for Ghost and Adrian Younge’s 12 Reasons To Die LP.  Me want. asap-salafi fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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Apr 2, 2013 19:06
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Ignore this post.
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gohmak posted:Ross plans to get those "gently caress niggaz" whacked and it's ok as long as he apologizes for date rapping. Pretty on point with what AlanSmithee was saying
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asap-salafi posted:
Gaslamp killer has posted some crazy photos of this live show on IG and it looks borderline Satanic. Like hot druids with bleeding eyes in white/red robes surrounding him on a red chair with a big red bible looking book on his lap... I have yet to hear this poo poo but it looks fuckin nuts.
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gohmak posted:Ross plans to get those "gently caress niggaz" whacked and it's ok as long as he apologizes for date rapping. It *is* possible to think both things are bad, you know. These sorts of lyrics aren't new: Heart of the City, Jay-Z, 2001 posted:Get a couple of chicks, get 'em to try to do E This battle of "concerned white media" versus rap has already been adressed by better people than you or I, so I'm not really going to go into it again. I'd just like to say Ross deserves more shame for promoting a lifestyle and image that he was never really a part of and which as a corrections officer he definately loving knows the consequences of.
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John Brown posted:Ignore this post. You act like people don't do this with everyone of your lovely rear end posts (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 2, 2013 20:46
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asap-salafi posted:
I really really really really hope this is good...
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Apr 2, 2013 20:49
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alansmithee posted:I really really really really hope this is good... The songs on the Bandcamp are really good. I gotta see him on the tour next month. I've seen Ghostface three times and he's one of the best live performers I've seen. He's a perfectionist. At one show he kept bitching about the mixing, and giving the sound guy suggestions that he wasn't taking(and Ghost was right, the mix was poo poo). He wound up leading the crowd in a chant of "gently caress the sound guy".
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Bob NewSCART posted:You act like people don't do this with everyone of your lovely rear end posts You had to be the one to go for the cliche punch line. Good job!
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haha gently caress, this is from Ghostface's current tour apparently:
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Date rap is bad. And I don't have to express an opinion about everything else in the universe that is also bad.
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Muck and Mire posted:haha gently caress, this is from Ghostface's current tour apparently: this is the gaslamp killer poo poo im talmbout looks rugged
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THNDRTHF posted:this is the gaslamp killer poo poo im talmbout Thanks for the heads up, I'm going based on this. I've seen Ghost 3 times, two of them were awesome (once with a live band) and the other one he kinda phoned it in. This one should be pretty dope, any excuse to see Ghost sitting in anything that resembles a throne
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here's the other one, GLK has apparently been to a couple shows recently
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ashgromnies posted:The songs on the Bandcamp are really good. He's a surprisingly good performer.
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On the "why is everyone mad at Rick Ross and Tyler for their lyrics about rape but not their lyrics about killing people" topic... it might have racial undertones and the white media obviously cherry-picking issues blah blah reductivism blah blah etc etc, but I think it also has a lot to do with it being much more likely that Rick Ross actually has date raped women vs. that Rick Ross has actually killed people. Not saying he HAS raped anyone, but that is more in the realm of feasibility than him having actually murdered anyone (same goes for many rappers).
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thathonkey posted:On the "why is everyone mad at Rick Ross and Tyler for their lyrics about rape but not their lyrics about killing people" topic... it might have racial undertones and the white media obviously cherry-picking issues blah blah reductivism blah blah etc etc, but I think it also has a lot to do with it being much more likely that Rick Ross actually has date raped women vs. that Rick Ross has actually killed people. Not saying he HAS raped anyone, but that is more in the realm of feasibility than him having actually murdered anyone (same goes for many rappers). It's still a glorification of those actions. It doesn't matter if he's actually killed someone; he's still desensitizing his audience to the idea.
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I'm... not saying I agree with either action or that they are ok to glorify in songs. I don't know if/how you misinterpreted my post. Just was trying to offer some insight into the disparate public response you get from rape vs. murder that was being discussed earlier
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I agree actually, and I think you could change "rappers" to "people". Both are equally deplorable but one is a lot more common than the other.
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People are more apt to angrily say "I'm gonna kill that motherfucker" then "I'm gonna go to the club and rape some bitch". It probably has something to do with America's desensitization to violence. E; did Rozay ever comment on getting shot at? Or is he playing some "bosses move in silence" angle? Robert Analog fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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thathonkey posted:On the "why is everyone mad at Rick Ross and Tyler for their lyrics about rape but not their lyrics about killing people" used Emmitt Till's name in a line, it becomes controversial. Or Eminem's lyrics about Columbine High School being blanked out in the MMLP. I remember my copy of "Death Row's Greatest Hits" having 2pac saying "cops" being censored when talked about in violent context, and Ice Cube's use of "Jew" being censored on their songs ("Pour Out A Little Liquor", "No Vaseline") but only on the Death Row released versions. I also remember the group Twiztid having their first album re-released on Def Jam back in 1998, and they made them censor the line "we need to burn the white house", which wasn't censored on the independent release. Major labels censor explicit albums all the time, they pick and choose what's considered too controverslal, but still let some foolishness loose. Also, on Juvenile's "400 Degreez". "Gone Ride With Me", "Welcome To The Nolia", "UTP" all have violent lyrics (mainly of homocidal nature) censored on them.
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temple posted:Date rap is bad. Not always. Sometimes when I'm on a date I like to start up a beat and spit a few bars just to break the ice.
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The reason Rick Ross is in hot poo poo for the date rape thing is because the entire country is getting in a flurry about sexual assault policies at colleges and the perpetration of "rape culture." Additionally, murder victims usually aren't around to complain about Ross glorifying killing. Rape victims on the other hand are around, and most people know at least one person who has been raped.
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What the gently caress is all this talk about America. People in general view rape as worse than murder. Look at the way rapists are treated in prisons, look at the way people in Muslim countries "protect" their women. Us guys are meant to be able to protect ourselves and that's why when a guy gets killed, its not big news. Shooting a guy in the face? Hell that poo poo happens everyday. But women being killed/raped? That poo poo isn't on because they're helpless. We live in a sexist world where women are perceived as weak and men should be able to take care of themselves/not die.
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It is easy to pick one line of with an obvious date rape reference and criticize it. But the violence in hiphop isn't wanton, it is nuanced and you have you have to specify what violence you are criticizing. A lot of violent content is about self-defense and I've always wondered why it is bad for rappers to defend themselves but not in other forms of media. Then, you have people like Biggie or Pac who talk about violence, but they are describing the desperate situation they live instead of willy nilly shooting. You can't criticize hundreds of artists and songs the same way and most don't bother. You end up using the same arguments as for movies or what not.
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Big Ghost continues to be the greatest rap critic (Wolf review is up)
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temple posted:But the violence in hiphop isn't wanton, it is nuanced https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZBYXdatMfg&t=53s Nothing subtler than booting your loving head off your collarbone!
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Good Will Hrunting posted:Were people this mad when Eminem made songs like "Bitch, I'mma Kill You"? I'm pretty mad at Ross and all, but it seems like people forget that poo poo like this is said in rap all the god drat time. ...yes? Actually if anything it made them angrier, if I remember correctly.
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temple posted:A lot of violent content is about self-defense and I've always wondered why it is bad for rappers to defend themselves but not in other forms of media. How many rap songs would you say you've listened to? Like between one and five, five and ten, or ten and fifteen?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MUGAxpI0Bc
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