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Enjoy posted:I guess non-Euclidean geometry is the devil http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxicab_geometry Even better
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Non-Euclidean geometry is fine, but non-Euclidean architecture? That's where the problems start.
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I just got linked a wonderful article from a site called Instant Analysis, which I think is affiliated with that dumb-as-poo poo OneMillionMoms thing.quote:Five Gay Marriage Myths I don't I can't even. Also hitting ctrl+c on their website did this:
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I'm getting a lot of "The Obamas take too many expensive vacations while the country is in peril!" on my Facebook wall (example) and as the only person that ever offers an opposing viewpoint for most of these people (I live in Texas) I'm getting linked to this with a "how's Obama look now, eh? " and was wondering how accurate the claims are.
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GrabbinPeels posted:I'm getting a lot of "The Obamas take too many expensive vacations while the country is in peril!" on my Facebook wall (example) and as the only person that ever offers an opposing viewpoint for most of these people (I live in Texas) I'm getting linked to this with a "how's Obama look now, eh? " and was wondering how accurate the claims are. IRRC bush spent of fourth of His terms on vacation.
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Van5 posted:IRRC bush spent of fourth of His terms on vacation. He spent more time on vacation than any other president, about 3 years total vacation time during his 8 year term. http://politic365.com/2012/05/08/obamas-vacations-of-any-president-bush-racked-up-the-most/
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GrabbinPeels posted:I'm getting a lot of "The Obamas take too many expensive vacations while the country is in peril!" on my Facebook wall (example) and as the only person that ever offers an opposing viewpoint for most of these people (I live in Texas) I'm getting linked to this with a "how's Obama look now, eh? " and was wondering how accurate the claims are. Ask them how many of their vacations involved them doing literally nothing related to their jobs.
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GrabbinPeels posted:I'm getting a lot of "The Obamas take too many expensive vacations while the country is in peril!" on my Facebook wall (example) and as the only person that ever offers an opposing viewpoint for most of these people (I live in Texas) I'm getting linked to this with a "how's Obama look now, eh? " and was wondering how accurate the claims are. http://www.politicususa.com/cost-obama-christmas-vacation-bush.html Might want to find another source or just crib from this one, but it's a pretty solid refutation of the BS that surrounds the lopsided coverage of Obama's vacation expenses compared to Dubya.
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prahanormal posted:Ask them how many of their vacations involved them doing literally nothing related to their jobs. I also wonder how many hours a POTUS spends a week doing "work" stuff.
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The obvious response to that is "well, I never mentioned Bush, why are you so stuck on him?"
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Ho Chi Mint posted:The obvious response to that is "well, I never mentioned Bush, why are you so stuck on him?" That's when you agree and take a look all the way back to Reagan. http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/president-obamas-vacation-days/ E; This rebuttal's even more comprehensive; http://politic365.com/2012/05/08/obamas-vacations-of-any-president-bush-racked-up-the-most/ NatasDog fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Apr 2, 2013 |
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GrabbinPeels posted:I'm getting a lot of "The Obamas take too many expensive vacations while the country is in peril!" on my Facebook wall (example) and as the only person that ever offers an opposing viewpoint for most of these people (I live in Texas) I'm getting linked to this with a "how's Obama look now, eh? " and was wondering how accurate the claims are. The new narrative is that the Obamas are treating the White House as if they're the Jeffersons, living high on the hog on ARE TAX DOLLURZ. They've run out of anything else to bitch about, so we're reduced to thinly (if that) veiled racism implying that Obama is a lazy president who's really just the biggest welfare queen of them all, right down to his, ahem, coffee-toned skin. Bush cost the taxpayers more in travel costs and staff costs in his 32 months (1,020 days) of vacation time, most of which was spent in Crawford. That also happens to be the most vacation time *Ever* taken by any sitting president in US history. Presidents don't have a choice about what transportation they use, or whether they take security or support staff with them (since the pres. is literally on-call 24/7). So we can either make the president a prisoner, restricted to travel only when its approved by committee vote, or we can accept that the president of the United States is allowed off the reservation from time to time. The current no-vacation narrative isn't really all that different from the argument that people using food stamps shouldn't be allowed to buy anything but government cheese and sacks of weevil-infested rice, because they're using government money and why should they get any enjoyment out of their food? It's just been extended to the Commander in Chief and his family, who are apparently now the unwitting stars in a Tea Party-Fox News produced version of "Blazing Saddles" - hey, the president is a N*****R!!! And a welfare queen to boot! Look at him, shacking up in the WHITE House like he belongs there.
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# ? Apr 2, 2013 19:27 |
It's also about control as well as racism. They talk a big game about how evil government health care is because they will make choices for you but when someone on private health insurance wants birth control it's quickly "we can't infringe on the employer's religious rights to decide what his employees can have access to" or "I don't want the money I pay for insurance going to worthless things when they can just not have sex!" The belief is that if a penny of their money goes towards something they should have total control as to how that service is provided.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Twenty or so police cars!?! How will the feds bring that much manpower? Your sarcasm absolutely broke the lovely weekend I had and put a smile on my face. Thanks for that.
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E: Already covered
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In case you can't make it out, the profile picture is a chalk outline with blood-dripping letters reading "TAX PAYER" superimposed over it.
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Connellingus posted:In case you can't make it out, the profile picture is a chalk outline with blood-dripping letters reading "TAX PAYER" superimposed over it. What a charmer. I'm sure he made the decision to flag down a cab right in front of the lady after she asked for money. Also "Entitled"?
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quote:Ayn Rand moment of the night. No, no, no, gently caress you, gently caress ball.
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A friend of mine just reposted the "$2 Bill at Taco Bell" story on Facebook. At the end, there was a new line appended: "NOW do you understand why and how Obama got a 2nd term?" Normally, I'd have just passed it up, or said "yeah, that story's been going around for a while", but that last line was just too tempting to not respond to. I can't help but admit I felt a little (OK, a lot) when I told him that it's kind of ironic that people who take that story as "Democrats are dumb LOL" are repeating and believing a 20-year-old canard as if it happened only recently.
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prahanormal posted:I just got linked a wonderful article from a site called Instant Analysis, which I think is affiliated with that dumb-as-poo poo OneMillionMoms thing. quote:The idea that gay marriage will bring greater equality is a total myth. The reason it is a myth is because it is not true, and the reason it is not true is because it is based on a meaningless idea and only meaningful statements can have a truth value. quote:It is, in fact, a myth that gay marriage will not undermine the traditional family. The reason this is a myth is because, once again, it is the exact opposite of the truth.
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ZobarStyl posted:Is this what passes for convincing rhetoric on the right? Seriously, after having read that thread long enough, I can't help but wonder if the Instant Analysis post was actually written by Andy Schlafly.
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Here is one of three of these that have popped up in my thread in the past hour I took a pic of this before the best part, blue responds to purple with Don't know you but...I feel sorry for you....THE END! purple responds with I have to say I'm rather unswayed by your argument, I feel sorry for people who feel some sort of undeserved visceral animosity to entire groups of people for stuff that is beyond their control, they never did, and who aren't hurting them edit: There's more! random dude: It's sad that we let boundaries as fake as nationality separate us from loving all. There is no difference between any human being so how can we look down upon others only trying to better their own lives. random dude again: The process of immigration to this country has become such a difficult process and seems to becoming increasingly less desirable as the separation between the top three percent and other ninety seven percent of this country grow. It's also sad we get caught up in the smoke show the government uses to blame for our problems while important issues are ignore internally and throughout the world. me: I do have to say there is one amusing thing about the picture itself being used in this. When Italians were coming en masse, people already here hated Italians, haaaaaaaaated their guts. So much so two laws were passed in the 20's specifically to stop Italian immigration. Not only were they they were dark(Anglo-Saxons didn't consider Italians white), they were loud with giant families, they were Papists, and unlike the Irish Papists, these ones coudn't speak English. And on top of it, they were WOPs who held up everyone at Ellis Island because they kept forgetting to take their correct papers with them. Freakin greaseballs. pink: You know what *name* or *name* i wish i wasnt driving bc i am very upset with you. Please keep your disgraceful mouth off my page YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHY I DECIDED TO REPOST THIS SO DO NOT PRESUME THAT YOU KNOW purple: You can't post something political in public, not really say why you posted it, then get mad when someone comments on it with a divergent viewpoint e: mad at people for risking their own life crossing the border illegally. Not mad at self for illegally using cell phone while driving putting others at risk I can't wait for when the Senate passes a bill with a pathway to citizenship Amused to Death fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Yeah, and people back then hated the Italians, and wanted them to go back to where they came from, just like how they feel about Mexicans today. In a couple generations the Mexican-American kids will hate the Swedish or something.
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Duck_King posted:Yeah, and people back then hated the Italians, and wanted them to go back to where they came from, just like how they feel about Mexicans today. In a couple generations the Mexican-American kids will hate the Swedish or something. loving Swedes, always starting poo poo.
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Radical Griff posted:loving Swedes, always starting poo poo. Remember that the Swedes are liberal gay socialist heathenists.
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Same thing with the Irish and Chinese and pretty much everyone not 'white as hell'
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Duck_King posted:Yeah, and people back then hated the Italians, and wanted them to go back to where they came from, just like how they feel about Mexicans today. In a couple generations the Mexican-American kids will hate the Swedish or something. Irish, Chinese, Germans, Italians, Polish... We've been demonizing immigrants for a long time in this country, folks from Mexico / Latin America are only the most recent, and they won't be the last.
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Radical Griff posted:Non-Euclidean geometry is fine, but non-Euclidean architecture? That's where the problems start. I see no problems.
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Walter posted:Irish, Chinese, Germans, Italians, Polish... Here's a depiction of the Irish from back when they were demonized: Hmm, belittling an ethnic group by making them look primitive and apelike, how strange...
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Hmm, belittling an ethnic group by making them look primitive and apelike, how strange... Also, it's funny how political cartoons have always been lovely no matter how far back you go.
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NatasDog posted:http://www.politicususa.com/cost-obama-christmas-vacation-bush.html I used this one - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-20093801.html The person I was debating, informed me that "CBS News is a Liberal site, and can't be trusted." This same guy, "likes" our local CBS affiliate, and shares weather reports from, their fb page.
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I saw today some in fighting on Facebook. Several people I am friends with post constant image macros from a group called "Uncle Sam's Misguided Children". Today, the image macro was how no one cares that a US soldier died in Afghanistan but they are all upset that some reality tv star of MTV died. This same group posts something similar when any celebrity dies so that did not stand out. Later on in the day, I saw that they had another post about it. Apparently a lot of the people who follow this group were offended by this previous post because they referred to the kid as a addict and an idiot. So this new post pretty much blamed all of the offended people for this kid's death. The fighting was magical.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:"Uncle Sam's Misguided Children". I'm not a fan of this group yet I see stuff from it so often I know of it
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I didn't know exactly where to go so I figure this thread is as good as any. I got into a conversation with my father where he dropped the bomb saying there have been no cases where people from the right have tried to shut down incidents of left leaning people speaking their mind publicly. Whereas lefties try to shout down right wingers all the time. My mind melted a little bit as I couldn't believe his rose colored glasses towards this idea of the noble conservative willingness to hear out liberal speakers wherever they may find themselves. When I told him I couldn't believe there were no incidents of conservative censorship of liberal speakers, he demanded examples. I have none at hand but I intend to bring him some. Any examples you can help out with? Or where would be a good place to look?
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Well, why don't you ask him for examples of when liberals tried to shut down conservatives. If you want an example though, at a pro gun regulation rally a few days ago, a couple of anti gun regulation people showed up. Alright, whatever right? They can speak their mind........they showed up armed with loving semi automatic rifles.
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His go-to example is of Charles Murray's college speaking engagements getting disrupted. Basically since colleges are hot beds of liberalism, they are the poster children of the intolerant left refusing to listen to conservatives. He also dislikes efforts to refuse ROTC recruitment on college campuses.
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Bo-Pepper posted:I didn't know exactly where to go so I figure this thread is as good as any. I got into a conversation with my father where he dropped the bomb saying there have been no cases where people from the right have tried to shut down incidents of left leaning people speaking their mind publicly. Whereas lefties try to shout down right wingers all the time. My mind melted a little bit as I couldn't believe his rose colored glasses towards this idea of the noble conservative willingness to hear out liberal speakers wherever they may find themselves. When I told him I couldn't believe there were no incidents of conservative censorship of liberal speakers, he demanded examples. Joe McCarthy. Though if he really has the "noble conservative" blinders on he'll probably try to spin that positively.
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ZobarStyl posted:I tried to get through this if only to understand their arguments, but it's completely unreadable. So let me get this straight: Gay marriage is wrong because it's a myth, and it's a myth because it's not true? So why isn't it true? What the hell does true mean in this context?
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quote:By contrast, for a heterosexual marriage to be “consummated” (that is, to be a fully complete marriage), there is an act the husband and wife must perform with their bodies. I think this stood out to me out of that wall of text more than anything else. So what about heterosexual couples where the guy has ED or something, and doesn't have the money/desire to get fix that, and the woman doesn't care? Do they not have a "fully complete" marriage?
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Joe McCarthy. Something more recent would be more relevant. Especially since Joseph McCarthy apparently had the right idea, but was perhaps a bit overzealous don't you know.
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