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This game has dragged me back. It's an abusive relationship. Send help. Now it's a mix of touching relationship stuff and utter despair and dealing with trauma.
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Apr 2, 2013 23:55
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Aww he got probated? I was enjoying the play by play. Oh well. Anyone know how far along the Altered Fable translation is? I haven't been keeping up with it.
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Apr 3, 2013 03:28
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Yeah that's sucks that's like the best part of the thread
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Apr 3, 2013 05:09
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DamnGlitch posted:Yeah that's sucks that's like the best part of the thread I agree with you but something like 20 posts in 2 days with little detailed reaction other than "OH MAN" is a little much, so it isn't exactly surprising.
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Apr 3, 2013 05:24
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I was surprised that he got a week for it, rather than a slap on the wrist or a warning in the thread. I guess maybe put a note about it in the op? Live reactions can be pretty thread bare it's true, but they are fun to read so maybe something about not going overboard and actually making some commentary.
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Apr 3, 2013 05:42
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Yeah, one post with more content than "WOW HOOLEY DOOLEY STUFF IS GOING DOWN" would be.. you know, better. I finished the Zero Saga of Dengeki Styker the other night. That end sequence was pretty amazing, Awakened fairy-thing Mirror wrecking poo poo, then Stryker Zero putting HIS FIST THROUGH HIS loving TORSO was great. Heaven Saga is next, I guess. Up to chapter six so far and everything's been the same, though it doesn't say what saga I'm on so I guess the route split is later.
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Apr 3, 2013 05:53
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I just finished Forest. I kept thinking "okay it's going to make sense soon" but for the most part it stayed dream like and incomprehensible to the end. And I thought that it was needlessly porned up, though it felt like they tried to be all soft core and tasteful the dialog undid all that... I can't even say it was needless anymore because important plot points get brought up during them. The in between parts ranged from atmospheric and mysterious to unapologetically fantastic. The art style was incredible. The music made the game vivid and the action scenes really intense. It had interesting doodle cameos of famous literary characters. Here's winny the pooh: So while I didn't get it and I was bothered by all the needless(?) sex scenes, I finished forest. It was a thing I read and now I have to live with it. Oh I just remembered the whole reason I started was because the old Umineko thread said that it was similar in theme and I'm not sure I agree. I'm not sure about anything. I think it had a happy ending unless I misunderstood? Krinkle fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 06:20
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DamnGlitch posted:I guess maybe put a note about it in the op? Live reactions can be pretty thread bare it's true, but they are fun to read so maybe something about not going overboard and actually making some commentary. This is a rule for pretty much all forums except when there's a group of people simultaneously doing it together. If you gave live reactions while reading a book in TBB, it'd be kind of dumb as hell! It's the core rule of SA even. There's no need to call attention to it because even a modicum of common sense would scream "hey this is a bad idea!"
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Apr 3, 2013 06:24
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Krinkle posted:I just finished Forest. I kept thinking "okay it's going to make sense soon" but for the most part it stayed dream like and incomprehensible to the end. And I thought that it was needlessly porned up, though it felt like they tried to be all soft core and tasteful the dialog undid all that... I can't even say it was needless anymore because important plot points get brought up during them. The in between parts ranged from atmospheric and mysterious to apologetically fantastic. The art style was incredible. The music made the game vivid and the action scenes really intense. It had interesting doodle cameos of famous literary characters. Here's winny the pooh: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.350906-All-in-the-Golden-Afternoon-A-Review-of-Forest This review and the subsequent posts are about as good a breakdown as you're going to get of Forest.
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Apr 3, 2013 06:26
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Krinkle posted:So while I didn't get it and I was bothered by all the needless(?) sex scenes, I finished forest. It was a thing I read and now I have to live with it. That was pretty much exactly how I felt after finishing Forest too.
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Apr 3, 2013 06:37
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As much as you may dislike the sex scenes in Forest, Hoshizora Meteor probably liked them even less, given that being forced to do them is purportedly why he left Liarsoft. Other than that I absolutely love how insane Forest is, I'll totally be reading Fire Girl for more Meteor.
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Apr 3, 2013 06:40
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Rodyle posted:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.350906-All-in-the-Golden-Afternoon-A-Review-of-Forest Oh that was great. I misread the ending. This completely changes the sad gross truth I thought the game revolved around into another wholly different sad gross truth. But that was not a very long discussion! There were only like four replies there about the plot. I'm still left with questions but they're not so formless and bewildered as before. Thank you for this. e: One last thing: I was completely unable to find a voice actress list for this game despite searching character names. (The male characters are never voiced). I thought I recognized Karaya, I think that's how you spell her name. Basically I was curious to see if serious voice actresses in Japan eventually just have to fake it into a microphone for a three minute looping .wav of sex noises as a matter of course or if these ladies are specialists who I haven't heard in anything else before. I don't know what answer I'm hoping for. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 07:17 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 06:54
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Krinkle posted:Oh that was great. I misread the ending. This completely changes the sad gross truth I thought the game revolved around into another wholly different sad gross truth. But that was not a very long discussion! There were only like four replies there about the plot. I'm still left with questions but they're not so formless and bewildered as before. Thank you for this. Well a lot of it is purely subjective. Forest is a commentary on storytelling itself (which is part of the reason Umineko is accused of cribbing from it, though I'll not get into that), and I don't necessarily agree with every conclusion my friends there reached. For example I don't agree with some of their conclusions about Amomori, Kako, and other such things. but it's been too long since I've played to really get into the details of it. Draw what conclusions you like. It's a cool game I think, despite the flaws.  soundtrack and visuals.
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Apr 3, 2013 07:11
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Anyone know if Ayakashibito is any good? I just noticed it's fully translated and undergoing editing. Just from the description it seems like it could either be decent or pretty boring.
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Apr 3, 2013 08:51
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Sounds interesting enough. I wouldn't mind giving it a go.
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Apr 3, 2013 09:19
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I've been playing the Umineko games bit by bit lately. I'm now at ep4, the part where Battler disappears because he's convinced that he's not Battler and the game seems to get suspended indefinitely. It's hard to express how confused I felt while playing it, and how confused I still feel. I watched the terrible anime adaptation so I sort of know what's going to happen but... I don't understand how Ange could save Battler any more, unless she just reaches to him with ~sibling love~. Also, the game doesn't kid with trying to make me explain things with magic. The first three episodes were ...kind of okay? As individual cases Battler, and by extension I, had the crimes sort of explained through human means. But now there's bunny girls, witches, demons and goats everywhere and everyone uses magic. It's all useless, indeed. The best thing I can think of is ignoring ALL the stuff shown as an illusion of the witch, and only taking as the truth the state of the corpses and what Battler-piece witnesses. But then again, a lot of the victims talked to Battler and swore that the murders were carried out by magic. I don't think I'm willing to claim that Jessica, Gohda, Kumasawa and Kyrie are all accomplices or somehow threatened to lie. At least there's a silver lining - Beato burning Kinzo leaves the possibility for the dead Kinzo theory since Kinzo being alive was never proclaimed in red (or I forgot about it). Unless there's actually a crime scene later on, explaining this is going to be a mess. I'm not even going to try. Then there's the part about Battler's sin. I get the feeling it has something to do with the theme of 'without love, it cannot be seen' but I've got no idea what it could be. I don't really believe that Battler isn't of Ushiromiya family since we've only established that Asumu isn't his birth mother. Unless it's shown that Rudolf isn't his father either. If so, maybe the real Battler has something to do with the murders? That seems a little far-fetched to me. I'm really liking these though. Sometimes things get a little slow but I've read slower books. The music is great and the art is fine. I have to admit that even though I watched the anime adaptation, in ep3 Beatrice's North wind and the Sun tactic completely fooled me. I first thought Beatrice was a dick, then I thought she was just pitiful. Only when Battler got into the party I remembered that it's all a trick. Then she was a dick again. Now I don't know what to think. I've heard that the ending is lackluster to say the least. How much of this stuff does it actually answer? Will I get any resolution to the sin that supposedly caused all the deaths and the murders?
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Apr 3, 2013 15:00
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Ottumon posted:I've heard that the ending is lackluster to say the least. How much of this stuff does it actually answer? quote:Will I get any resolution to the sin that supposedly caused all the deaths and the murders?
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Apr 3, 2013 15:14
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Also it was stated in red that Kinzo is dead at the start of all games. His body is burned to hide the time of death.
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Apr 3, 2013 16:34
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Ottumon would've found that out upon finishing EP4; there's no need to spoil it as a response. E: Meant to say no need to respond in such a way in the first place, since he had said he was only partway through EP4. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 17:15
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The PS3 patch for Chiru is due out at the end of the month.
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Apr 3, 2013 17:28
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Nate RFB posted:Ottumon would've found that out upon finishing EP4; there's no need to spoil it as a response. It was really more for people who haven't read EP4's benefit.
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Apr 3, 2013 18:29
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I edited a question into my last post but it looks like I did it too late to get it noticed. Does anyone know where I can find a list of voice actors for Forest?
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Apr 3, 2013 20:53
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Nate RFB posted:Everything "important" is answered, though it may not go out of its way to spell it out for you. Now what you determine to be "important" right now may not be the same by the time you reach the end, so it's possible certain questions you have right now won't be answered while others you hadn't thought of will be. Rest of ep4 notes: "Magic to always be friends with my beloved mother" Oh wow. That's really clever. This episode made Maria a whole lot less insufferable as a character. Kinzo's dead, okay. But then Beatrice declares there's no more than 17 people on the island. I suppose congratulations are in order for misleading me to wrong conclusions. Battler's absurd theories had me going  but the second tea party put an end to that. Since dead people don't count (Kinzo is on the island, but dead) I'm guessing that after the first six murders you can get get more people to the island through method X. Beatrice's last riddle really seems to scream "lightning" but at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it's something I'd never think of. ...Yeah. I wouldn't make a good detective. I wasn't spoiled, no worries. kirbysuperstar posted:Oh god Nitroplus are great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HxAGIyfw4
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Apr 3, 2013 21:21
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Ottumon posted:Will I get any resolution to the sin that supposedly caused all the deaths and the murders? Well... Yes and no. Do to the stories narrative, you really cant be sure about anything. The sin in particular is touched on and it could be the cause of the deaths within the stories but it seems at odds with a good chunk of the narrative if it was the cause of the deaths outside of the stories. Some of the murders are explained. Others are conveniently forgotten. Once you finish reading the very last episode, you could read the manga adaptation of EP8. Its a whole lot better executed than the VA and it goes further in depth with a lot of things the VN didn't touch upon.
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Apr 3, 2013 21:35
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Cao Ni Ma posted:Once you finish reading the very last episode, you could read the manga adaptation of EP8. Its a whole lot better executed than the VA and it goes further in depth with a lot of things the VN didn't touch upon.
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Apr 3, 2013 21:51
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Anyone know if Ayakashibito is any good? I just noticed it's fully translated and undergoing editing.
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Apr 3, 2013 21:59
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Going through the Watanagashi arc in Higurashi is getting really confusing, being half-spoiled and all. Like, I know Shion is a real person, and that her and Mion are separate people, but on the other hand Mion seems to be getting really excited about meeting Keichii at the dessert thing but she seems normal most of the time. This is probably bothering me more than it should, but if I wasn't half-spoiled i'd just be like "oh yeah Mion's going through a schizophrenic episode" and it'd all be really neat and simple. I'm definitely looking forward to where it's going with this, it's a pretty good VN and the club scenes are pretty charming, and never go to the lengths of lacrosse. And the ending to Onikakushi was just  enough that i'm even more interested in the story and characters. Really hoping that Keichii doesn't bash Shion's brains it with a baseball bat, that'd be really bad.  e: Aw, Mion.  e2: Oh, this is terrible. Shion is just an awful person. 
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Apr 3, 2013 22:46
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Very Notable posted:I've been following Ayakashibito's translation for awhile. I kind of want to play it just because it's a not-too-long action series and not 100+ hours of nothing happening. It's a 2.82 megabyte script. You have an interesting definition of "not-too-long."
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Apr 3, 2013 22:47
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Krinkle posted:I edited a question into my last post but it looks like I did it too late to get it noticed. Does anyone know where I can find a list of voice actors for Forest? Not in English, but none of them have done much anime apart from adaptations of games they were in. That site's pretty handy because it includes aliases seiyuu have used. Kaori Mizuhashi's had almost 50 of them. Stink Billyums fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 22:48
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Nate RFB posted:Like what? The quizzes are changed to a hide and seek game between Ange and the family members. Some of the situations relating to how people hide themselves in rooms directly mirror some of the murders in previous stories. Just about everyone also gets more exposition before and after Ange finds them.
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Apr 3, 2013 23:17
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Gackt posted:Not in English, but none of them have done much anime apart from adaptations of games they were in. Thanks very much for this. So the equals signs separate aliases and are not mistranslated kanji? Are the aliases what I think they're for? Trying to keep low brow and high brow jobs separate? Is mangakiss or whatever website I found them not up to date or have they only translated as far as the first hide and seek so far? GIven that this is a series about murders it feels absolutely stupid to have to spoiler that, by the way. Krinkle fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 23:22
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I think they've only translated up to chapter 6 but you can find Japanese and Chinese scans of them up to chapter 10ish. Which is around the time The hide and seek game ends and Bern's game starts e- Man how loving long does it take for them to finish this manga. EP 5-8 are still getting chapters released. Cao Ni Ma fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Apr 3, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 23:38
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Ottumon posted:I missed this, and now the video is private. Does anyone have a mirror so I could check it out? They did have it on this site too, but they've taken it down now: http://supersonico.jp/sonicoshock_infinity/ Where's the fun in that?
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Apr 3, 2013 23:52
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Cao Ni Ma posted:e- Man how loving long does it take for them to finish this manga. EP 5-8 are still getting chapters released still. They're also uglier than the games and don't have the music, and at least EP1-EP4 were wildly inconsistent at what tone to focus on and what to leave in and out. So like the anime it was a wasted exercise trying to actually piece the plot together (gee, maybe try having one artist go at it from start to finish next time? Maybe serialize it in a linear fashion? What a crazy idea!). Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Apr 4, 2013 |
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Apr 3, 2013 23:59
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PaulC posted:It's a 2.82 megabyte script. You have an interesting definition of "not-too-long." How do the file-sizes compare to line counts usually? I've always found line counts easier to digest.
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Apr 4, 2013 01:56
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I think of it in novel lengths. Every 0.8MB of script is about equal to a 300+ page novel (100,000 words). At 5.3MB, Umineko is 13 Slaughterhouse-Fives, 6 and a half To Kill A Mockingbirds, or two and a half Ulysseses. Krinkle posted:So the equals signs separate aliases and are not mistranslated kanji? Are the aliases what I think they're for? Yes and Yes.
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Apr 4, 2013 03:45
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Script sizes are better standards of comparison than line counts because average line density varies widely.Gackt posted:I think of it in novel lengths. Every 0.8MB of script is about equal to a 300+ page novel (100,000 words). That's a bit of an oversimplification, the scripts tend to be very heavy on simple dialogue compared to a novel.
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Apr 4, 2013 03:58
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Gackt posted:At 5.3MB, Umineko is 13 Slaughterhouse-Fives, Should that be Slaughterhouses-five?
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Krinkle posted:Should that be Slaughterhouses-five? I hope I never have to use the plural possessive of Ulysses.
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