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The root of the problem is that a 3'10" puppet fighting an old man with a laser sword is inherently silly. I can't fault the films for it looking weird. If they wanted to make Yoda into a formidable force of power, they should have everything around him work in his favour. Suddenly, Dooku's lightsaber doesn't work, doors are delayed or won't open.
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DrNutt posted:Man, if only someone, somewhere, might have the sort of creativity to represent this in an interesting way. Nope, not possible, it's never going to happen. I'm sure there's someone who could do it but historically it's been a pretty tough nut to crack. Peter Jackson took a whack at it with Gandalf/Saruman in the first LOTR movie and we ended up with two OAPs breakdancing. The mental fight scene in Hero (haven't seen the Sherlock Holmes 2 one) was done exactly like a real-life fight scene, just intercut with shots of Jet Li and Donnie Yen thinking really hard. The Scanners thing with bursting eyeballs and exploding heads could work but they're hardly likely to try it in a Star Wars movie. It's a toughie.
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I seem to remember an article that said someone (not Lucas) keeps asking for Yoda to be given abilities like flying or creating multiple copies of himself for that fight scene, but guy responsible for making it rejects those ideas because they're too much or something.
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If we could make it one whole movie with no dark Jedi making an appearance, that would be pretty cool.
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General Dog posted:If we could make it one whole movie with no dark Jedi making an appearance, that would be pretty cool. This is why I enjoy the X-Wing novels. Sure they are campy as hell, but there are no Jedi.
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Clipperton posted:The problem with battles on separate planes of perception that is that cinematically it would basically look like two guys staring at each other and going "HNNNNNNGH" until one of them falls over. DrNutt posted:Man, if only someone, somewhere, might have the sort of creativity to represent this in an interesting way. Nope, not possible, it's never going to happen. Clipperton posted:I'm sure there's someone who could do it but historically it's been a pretty tough nut to crack. Peter Jackson took a whack at it with Gandalf/Saruman in the first LOTR movie and we ended up with two OAPs breakdancing. The mental fight scene in Hero (haven't seen the Sherlock Holmes 2 one) was done exactly like a real-life fight scene, just intercut with shots of Jet Li and Donnie Yen thinking really hard. The Scanners thing with bursting eyeballs and exploding heads could work but they're hardly likely to try it in a Star Wars movie. It's a toughie. Some exec at Disney read this and just told his underlings, "We need to get Akira Toriyama on the phone."
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Oh snap. Assuming that this isn't an April Fool's joke: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/31/dark-horse-to-adapt-george-lucas-original-concept-the-star-wars-into-comics-wondercon/ Dark Horse is adapting The Adventures of Luke Starkiller, As Taken From the Journal of the Whills, Saga 1: The Star Wars, or, according to Bleeding Cool, perhaps earlier concepts than that first script: http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/03/31/the-unused-stories-and-characters-from-george-lucas-unproduced-the-star-wars-scripts/ Hell yes, I am into this. I wish they had the budget and vision to make all the art look like McQuarrie paintings. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Apr 1, 2013 |
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Arschlochkind posted:Some exec at Disney read this and just told his underlings, "We need to get Akira Toriyama on the phone." Now I think about it, the mental-powers scenes in DREDD were done really well, but again it's not very Jedi-ish.
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Facebook is lighting up with news that George Takei will have a part in the new Star Wars. April fools or what?
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Turnquiet posted:Facebook is lighting up with news that George Takei will have a part in the new Star Wars. April fools or what? Absolutely April Fools
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:Absolutely April Fools That‘s so Takei!
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reagan posted:This is why I enjoy the X-Wing novels. Sure they are campy as hell, but there are no Jedi. One does get tired of everyone important being a secret jedi and the force handwaves.
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Yoda being all flippity-do in the prequels would have been easier to take if he wasn't still old as balls. Prequel Obi-Wan being spritely fits because a generation or two ago he was a much younger man whereas Yoda barely even registers fifty years going by.
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Yeah, that's another issue. I don't mind Yoda getting a grand - visual - hubris change in Episode 2 as compared to 7 that would mirror Obi Wan in 3 as compared to 4. The issue with that is that Yoda's visual change happens in a 1/18th of his life as compared to Obi Wans difference of almost half of his or whatever. There's a magnitude of established length of gained wisdom there.
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Darko posted:Yeah, that's another issue. I don't mind Yoda getting a grand - visual - hubris change in Episode 2 as compared to 7 that would mirror Obi Wan in 3 as compared to 4. On the other hand the difference between him in the prequels and by ESB is he's seen all his friends killed, every political principle he fought for destroyed, got his rear end handed to him in a physical fight, and suddenly relocated to a swamp planet to live with no health care or even other people to talk to. Given how many old people I've seen shoot from healthy and active to obviously fading in a few years with far fewer reasons for being depressed and down, it's not THAT implausible for there to be a difference even over a relatively short time. Though honestly, while I didn't have many issues with Yoda lightsaber fighting per se, I do wish his fighting style had been less "ferret on crack bouncing around" and more serene. You don't have to do some sort of purely mental combat thing, just have him maneuver with maximum efficiency. He shouldn't have to swing like mad, he should seem to be almost effortlessly moving his blade at just the right time to block or attack. More ballet than breakdancing, basically. Considering how many martial arts films have an old master who can easily defeat a headstrong student while barely moving, it would have been a more "genre" choice too. Maybe have him having to be more active vs. the Emperor as a way of showing the greater challenge (and growing desperation on his part) would have worked as a contrast too if all his other fighting had been more relaxed.
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trashcangammy posted:The sublime magnificence of this trailer is almost persuading me to return to the game despite experiencing it's shitness first hand for several months. Don't go back. Just watch this over, and over instead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8q99q5dV2ko
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I think part of it is that the style wouldn't have really felt right for anyone actually. In a scene that tries to have some kind of tension or dramatic importance to it, is there any character who wouldn't have looked ridiculous doing that? Yes, all the jumping around feels strange and maybe even undignified for Yoda, like seeing an aging comic still doing pratfalls, but even picturing Obi Wan or Anakin doing those same moves is still pretty funny.
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well why not posted:The root of the problem is that a 3'10" puppet fighting an old man with a laser sword is inherently silly. I can't fault the films for it looking weird. Did people watch a different original trilogy to me? Large parts of those films were also incredibly silly. The prequel movies really weren't silly enough, though this actually leads to the great punchline of universe's silliest character Jar Jar Binks speaking in the universe's driest, most serious place the Republic Senate and dooming the whole galaxy in Ep 3.
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teagone posted:Don't go back. Just watch this over, and over instead. Can we just get a Disney release saying that they're adopting this as an official trailer or something because holy mother of god drat
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Just what a Star Wars sequel needs, a million jedi with lightsabers
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Just what a Star Wars sequel needs, a million jedi with lightsabers It is likely Luke's Jedi academy wont feature in VII. Too many SW fans love Jedi too much for them not to feature in large numbers.
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feedmyleg posted:Oh snap. Assuming that this isn't an April Fool's joke: This is interesting... Disney might not kill the contract with Dark Horse after all? On a sidenote, Lucasarts is moving over strictly to licencing, meaning SW 1313 is gone. Licencing SW to other developers does seem like a better option though ... we've been past the golden years of Lucasarts for a while now.
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Killing LucasArt is a pretty dumb move on Disney's part. I don't care about Star Wars games, but man, what a lot of talent that just got the axe.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Killing LucasArt is a pretty dumb move on Disney's part. I don't care about Star Wars games, but man, what a lot of talent that just got the axe. The point being that there's no more talent left there.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:Killing LucasArt is a pretty dumb move on Disney's part. I don't care about Star Wars games, but man, what a lot of talent that just got the axe. LucasArts hasn't made a drat thing worthwhile in over a decade.
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I'm sure someone at Disney asked for some demo stuff and LucasArts' incredible management accidentally sent them a blind LP of Force Commander instead of the 1313 preview stuff.
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What about Tie Fighter? 
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McDowell posted:What about Tie Fighter? 20th anniversary of Tie Fighter is next year.
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Tezzeract posted:This is interesting... Disney might not kill the contract with Dark Horse after all? When they last re-upped the contract it was for two years, they still have like 18 months on it.
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Wubbles posted:I'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted: JJ Abrams is directing Star Wars. I am pretty happy with that. I will be more happy when/if/hopefully they announce that Jennifer Lawrence is playing Jaina Solo, because that would be pretty much perfect.
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Wubbles posted:I'm pretty sure this hasn't been posted: JJ Abrams is directing Star Wars. I'm certain this has been known for weeks.
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Whoa, according to the Star Wars twitter account, it's been known since January 25th. I don't where I got the impression it was announced a day or two ago.
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Wubbles posted:Whoa, according to the Star Wars twitter account, it's been known since January 25th. I don't where I got the impression it was announced a day or two ago. It definitely wasn't from reading this thread.
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The best possible outcome would be for Abrams to do the reboot thing again, or at the very least stick to the critical view of horrible fan universe stuff.
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Danger posted:The best possible outcome would be for Abrams to do the reboot thing again, or at the very least stick to the critical view of horrible fan universe stuff.
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Well, reboot or sequel or whatever it's the idea of 'canon' itself that is the problem and antithetic to what made the original so resounding.
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The best story imo is to do a basic adaptation of I, Jedi. Where its a new Jedi finding out he has powers, seeking out Luke's somewhat hidden (and still small,like a few others max) Jedi academy, then either he leaves early like Luke in ESB and complicates the story (maybe his family is loosely linked to some gang or the remnants of the Empire, and after carelessly showing off his new skills he attracts some mid-upper bad guy's attention), or he stays and.completes his training but is still careless due to inexperience. Then build from there into just the 1 movie standalone or to the new trilogy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOLqGxuvf08 From this scientific study, Jedi is the most interesting visually, Sith is a clown cartoon, Empire seems like a slow drama, Star Wars looks like an indie flick, and AOTC and TPM are so dull as to be ignored.
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PrBacterio posted:The best possible outcome would be if he bases the new movies on accepting *only* the original trilogy as canon, and nothing else, and going from there. But unfortunately, that's not going to happen. What do you see happening? Because I'll be shocked if they do anything beyond cherrypicking a few stray elements from the EU and ignoring the rest. The prequels will be chronologically distant enough as to not really matter. Edit: Although we may still be stuck with some prequel concepts like the Jedi counsel and the "rule of two" that we'd probably be better off without. General Dog fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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