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Lord Tywin posted:So you having played both the leaked beta and the demo is there any big changes that have occurred in this year of development? Ubik would have told the lawyer 'these guys took my work and used it in their games' and he would have given the correct reply 'you can sue them for appropriation'. Ubik's lawyer can only give advice based on what Ubik tells him.
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I'm pretty sure that the EU4 ledger has an index, I don't remember where I saw that but I remember being extremely happy about it because it was such a great UI improvement (which is something they seem to really be taking seriously with EU4)
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I downloaded this demo just so I could have a copy of I started it up, and dear god does it look bad. This is the loading screen from the beginning of the game, which is reminiscent of an early 90s roguelike.  It's a bad thing when the country select screen looks better than the actual game.  Loaded up as France in 1799, and I'm instantly bombarded with a million popups. I have no idea. (On closer inspection, this is the national ideas for EVERY COUNTRY IN THE GAME).  Eurasia. Apparently most of West Africa didn't exist at this point  Americas.  Asia. Apparently Australia isn't discovered yet  It should also be noted that there's an incredible lag whilst moving the camera. It lags for about 2 seconds before actually moving to where you want it to go, except rapidly. So it'll overshoot where you want to look and stop somewhere way off, meaning you've gotta go back in the opposite direction, lagging once again for 2 seconds and overshooting. It's very annoying. Other cool features of 1799 is the inability to field regiments more than 5 thousand large, for ~some reason~. I have no idea what I'm doing or what anything is, and the interface is really, really bad. Also, I'm pretty sure the tutorial is just "WELCOME TO It does actually recognize you're playing past the tutorial date, so it boots you out. FAKEEDIT: Started another game from the tutorial date. It might be hard to see (because look at it holy poo poo), but England has been sitting there and refusing to move their troops at all. It's taken about 5 minutes to get through 3 months, namely because it keeps pausing at every single pop up, and I have no idea how to stop this. Like stated previously in this thread, it runs really, really slowly. If I had bought this for 20 dollars or more I probably would have thrown up at the thought of spending that much on this. Yet it gets worse, when changing your message settings, you have to restart the game for them to take effect.   Hefty Leftist fucked around with this message at 15:24 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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Apr 5, 2013 14:31
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Lord Tywin posted:So you having played both the leaked beta and the demo is there any big changes that have occurred in this year of development? It is considerably more stable and faster, I can give it that. Can't say about the game itself as I didn't manage to effectively play the leaked beta. Not that the game is optimized at all, I left it running a hands-off and the drat thing is slower than Victoria 2 during the 1900s. You can tell the quality of the programming by the fact that clicking the "tutorial" allows you to play the full game, including saves and length. Not that anyone in their right mind would want to do that except for the curiosity that makes us drive slower past a car crash, it really is a terrible piece of code.
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Apr 5, 2013 14:32
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Uh... wow. Thanks for that explanation of this debacle, guys. It's just... I can't even...  That's incredible, and should serve as a warning to all small game development outfits that are considering hiring/contracting out to modders. (Wiz notwithstanding, of course).
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Apr 5, 2013 14:41
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I have a feeling Paradox learned some very hard/stupid lessons through this process. I sympathize. But at the very least we got Ubiksoft (Portugal's very own AAA Development house) out of the deal. Tercio fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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Apr 5, 2013 15:01
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Perhaps the most perplexing thing to me is that Ubik made
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Apr 5, 2013 15:12
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John Charity Spring posted:I think Ubik is mentally ill, no fooling. This. I posted about in the old thread, but he literally used to keep a file of quotes on anyone who criticized him or Magna Mundi and would mock them in a special thread on the Paradox forums. I can't even imagine the legal smackdown that is winding up in Sweden.
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Apr 5, 2013 15:15
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It really clear to me why it was cancelled now. It's not that Paradox wouldn't release it because it's buggy. It's that Paradox couldn't physically release it, because it's a total disaster. They would have been a complete laughing stock if they released this game as it is, with Ubik marching around claiming it's in a released state. At least HoI3 was possible to understand, imagine someone completely new to Clausewitz engine games coming into Magna Mundi. It would have been absolutely terrible.
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Apr 5, 2013 15:31
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V for Vegas posted:NMS that poo poo. Jomini Engine would be more apt, wouldn't it?
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Apr 5, 2013 15:31
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After watching the EU4 highlight reel I am so happy. The game itself looks awesome, but steam workshop for mods and *steam multiplayer*? I will soon be able to uninstall tunngle \o/
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Apr 5, 2013 15:37
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The whole game looks like it's been drawn with crayons.
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Apr 5, 2013 15:42
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Cynic Jester posted:After watching the EU4 highlight reel I am so happy. The game itself looks awesome, but steam workshop for mods and *steam multiplayer*? I will soon be able to uninstall tunngle \o/ Hotseat MP too, so hopefully you might be able to look over a bunch of different servers and think that a certain country looks like it's in a fun position and just get in there and start loving around.
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Apr 5, 2013 15:50
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Fister Roboto posted:Jomini Engine would be more apt, wouldn't it? Or the Solano Lopez engine.
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Fintilgin posted:This. I posted about in the old thread, but he literally used to keep a file of quotes on anyone who criticized him or Magna Mundi and would mock them in a special thread on the Paradox forums. To be perfectly fair, you guys do that as well, like one or two pages back :P Cynic Jester posted:After watching the EU4 highlight reel I am so happy. The game itself looks awesome, but steam workshop for mods and *steam multiplayer*? I will soon be able to uninstall tunngle \o/ Yeah we are really excited about how much easier and better playing MP is going to be 
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Apr 5, 2013 15:53
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A developer interview has been posted for East versus West. At least they are not focussing so much on warfare when asked in person. That's a little bit reassuring, but they still have a long way to go to convince me that the game is going to be good.
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Apr 5, 2013 15:56
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podcat posted:to be perfectly fair, you guys do that as well, like one or two pages back :P Never underestimate a Goon's grudge against his fellow grognard 
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Apr 5, 2013 15:58
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ThePutty posted:Asia. Apparently Australia isn't discovered yet All things considered, while Western and Northern Australia had been landed on and mapped hundreds of years earlier by dutch, chinese and indonesians, it was only toward the 1770s and later that anyone had bothered to map New Zealand and the Australian eastern coastline which was more habitable than the monsoonal deserts and tropical wetlands that had been found previously to the northwest.
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Apr 5, 2013 16:00
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Beamed posted:Never underestimate a Goon's grudge against his fellow grognard Paradox gamers are not grognards
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Apr 5, 2013 16:01
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Apr 5, 2013 16:03
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podcat posted:To be perfectly fair, you guys do that as well, like one or two pages back :P Hey now, I had to dig around in the archived old thread for twenty minutes to find that. If I had a file on my computer I could have dug up the whole rant. I'm still trying to puzzle out the logic where they concede they've lost the rights to the name Magna Mundi but gained the rights not just to clauswitz, but the other games Paradox publishes. I wish google translate wasn't so off, I'm still trying to make heads or tails of that article.
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Apr 5, 2013 16:12
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RabidWeasel posted:Moving away from Ubikchat for a while: EU4 dev diary mostly going into detail over how peace negotiations will work.
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Apr 5, 2013 16:12
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wukkar posted:"aggressive expansion relation penalty"? What was wrong with infamy? You mean infamy as a term or infamy as that arbitrary number that if you crossed even a little bit poo poo hit the fan? Nothing too much with the former but drat the latter is horrible. EU4 no longer has that counter and that's probably one of the best things about it.
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podcat posted:To be perfectly fair, you guys do that as well, like one or two pages back :P E: Fintilgin posted:I'm still trying to puzzle out the logic where they concede they've lost the rights to the name Magna Mundi but gained the rights not just to clauswitz, but the other games Paradox publishes. A Buttery Pastry fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Apr 5, 2013 |
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Apr 5, 2013 16:21
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wukkar posted:"aggressive expansion relation penalty"? What was wrong with infamy?
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's not crazy when it's done as a collective. It's like a bodyswap comedy where a drunk hobo swaps with a successful business man.
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Apr 5, 2013 16:41
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Could somebody please put that World Stage demo on MediaFire or something? I've tried to grab it twice from the official site but both hours-long downloads ended in corrupted files. It's a publicly-released demo so it shouldn't be a  issue - at least not for those of us who aren't claiming ownership of the Clausewitz engine.
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With a firm heart animated by the Magna Mundi principle, kind Marshall Ubik has given final approval for a nuclear strike against Stockholm and the brigandish group of Paradox traitors.
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Apr 5, 2013 16:51
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podcat posted:To be perfectly fair, you guys do that as well, like one or two pages back :P So what share of the Clausewitz engine does this entitle us to?
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Keisari posted:You mean infamy as a term or infamy as that arbitrary number that if you crossed even a little bit poo poo hit the fan? Nothing too much with the former but drat the latter is horrible. EU4 no longer has that counter and that's probably one of the best things about it.
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Why on earth would they sign over the rights to their engine to some random dude?! This seems like the opposite pattern of behavior for a successful company. Aren't engines, like, super top priority software?
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DrSunshine posted:Why on earth would they sign over the rights to their engine to some random dude?! This seems like the opposite pattern of behavior for a successful company. Aren't engines, like, super top priority software? They almost certainly did not. Ubik is, as we've discussed, insane and believes insane things. Any speculation on what Paradox might have done is an attempt to figure out the twisted workings of Ubik's mind.
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So, I've finally broken down and picked up CKII (plus recommended expansions) and HoI3 on Steam. I know my main (desktop) will be more than sufficient to run them both, but I'm wondering if there's any point to even trying on my ultrabook. It's not complete poo poo, but it does have a lovely integrated graphics card (Intel HD Extreme 3000 or whatever). Does anyone have experience running those games on that sort of underpowered system?
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DrSunshine posted:Why on earth would they sign over the rights to their engine to some random dude?! This seems like the opposite pattern of behavior for a successful company. Aren't engines, like, super top priority software? They didn't. As ubik explained, the contract did not say that Paradox owned the engine, just as it didn't say he owned it - so clearly, by nature, he owns it now. What aren't you understanding???
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PT6A posted:So, I've finally broken down and picked up CKII (plus recommended expansions) and HoI3 on Steam. I know my main (desktop) will be more than sufficient to run them both, but I'm wondering if there's any point to even trying on my ultrabook. It's not complete poo poo, but it does have a lovely integrated graphics card (Intel HD Extreme 3000 or whatever). Does anyone have experience running those games on that sort of underpowered system? Yes it'll work. You'll need to turn off all the shaders and extras and everything but it'll run fine.
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Beamed posted:They didn't. As ubik explained, the contract did not say that Paradox owned the engine, just as it didn't say he owned it - so clearly, by nature, he owns it now. What aren't you understanding??? Wow, okay, that's some plain-up North Korean propaganda-level crazy there.  Wellp, good luck to Ubik pressing his claim!
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PT6A posted:So, I've finally broken down and picked up CKII (plus recommended expansions) and HoI3 on Steam. I know my main (desktop) will be more than sufficient to run them both, but I'm wondering if there's any point to even trying on my ultrabook. It's not complete poo poo, but it does have a lovely integrated graphics card (Intel HD Extreme 3000 or whatever). Does anyone have experience running those games on that sort of underpowered system? CK2 will work a lot better than HOI3, because of the smaller number of provinces.
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Alchenar posted:Yes it'll work. You'll need to turn off all the shaders and extras and everything but it'll run fine. When it comes to running Paradox games I'd recommend worrying about your processor far more than graphics cards. My desktop has a dual core 2.9 GHz processor overclocked to 3.4 and it still chokes a bit at max speed when playing Victoria 2  . Although that may be PDM slowing it down.
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The World Stage website is now down. Those of you that didn't already grab World Stage might be out of luck.
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Patter Song posted:The World Stage website is now down. Those of you that didn't already grab World Stage might be out of luck. 
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