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QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Razorwired posted:

In Wristcutters Eugene reveals that he killed himself on stage by dousing his electric guitar in beer. He does so with a bottle of Dead Guy.

Encino Man wasn't a great movie but I caught one while it ran in the background. When Link is in the museum he watches the staff assembling a skeleton. When they put the last rib in he touches his ribcage with a :smith: face. They're referencing Adam and Eve. He misses his wife/mate.

I haven't seen that movie in forever, but how would a caveman be familiar with the story of Adam and Eve?

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Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

For that matter, how would a caveman survive being frozen in a block of ice for tens of thousands of years and then just wake up after being defrosted in a suburban garage? I think there may be some plot holes in this C-list comedy starring Brendan Frasier and Pauly Shore. :v:

priznat
Jul 7, 2009

Let's get drunk and kiss each other all night.
Maybe he was actually just hungry for some rrrrrribs!

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

I haven't seen that movie in forever, but how would a caveman be familiar with the story of Adam and Eve?
I think the implication is that he himself is Adam, which is something I never did catch on to despite having seen that movie many times but then I was 12 and in the field of appreciation for cinematic art, discovering theological implications took a backseat to seeing a dude make cave paintings in a suburban living room.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

My Lovely Horse posted:

I think the implication is that he himself is Adam, which is something I never did catch on to despite having seen that movie many times but then I was 12 and in the field of appreciation for cinematic art, discovering theological implications took a backseat to seeing a dude make cave paintings in a suburban living room.

If he was Adam, then he would have either been frozen before fathering children, thus preventing propagation; or shortly afterward. But as we see at the end, "Eve" was also frozen, therefore she was not around to raise any children either.

Why, I'm beginning to think that this movie wasn't a documentary at all! Though it is about as sound as the creationist argument, so there is that.

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
I think he was just a really dumb proto human who was surprised at seeing the inner workings of the human body. I'm talking about Brendan Fraser, not the character. The director obviously liked this unscripted moment so much he kept it in the final cut.

Mr_Zombie
Mar 27, 2011

The whole part is in a sequence where it dawns on him that he's long separated from his Caveman days. Him looking at the skeleton and then feeling his rib is his recognition that this ancient skeleton is/ could have been him.

I can't believe I'm having to explain something from California Man.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
It took far too long for me to realize the big grow-op at the end of Pineapple Express is the government testing facility from the beginning.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.

Coffee And Pie posted:

It took far too long for me to realize the big grow-op at the end of Pineapple Express is the government testing facility from the beginning.

Did you... take appropriate steps... before watching the movie? That, I've found, is the explanation for every blatant movie detail I missed from age 20-25.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


To be fair they never actually come out and say it in the movie. Its easy to kind of gloss over the opening bit since once its over it has nothing to do with the rest of the film until the very end.

HelleSpud
Apr 1, 2010
Just watched Jurassic Park (which has held up amazingly) and I noticed two things:

First is when they're on the instructional ride learning how the dinosaurs were made and they force their way off before the ride is complete. If they'd stayed on the next section was showing the control room and they would have learned how the security systems were controlled 10 minutes into arrival. I don't know how that would have changed things, but it is funny they just missed something that they would find so important later.

Second is: when Grant first notices Tim is following him and the kid says he'll get into whatever car Alan is in and Grant just stares at him it's not only annoyance, he's just noticed the kid is dressed in the exact same outfit as him.

HelleSpud has a new favorite as of 20:00 on Apr 6, 2013

Supreme Allah
Oct 6, 2004

everybody relax, i'm here
Nap Ghost
I was watching Fellowship of the Ring and drinking frozen lemonade spiked with vodka when I noticed that Saruman's tower and his staff have the exact same four point thing on the top



Thunderfinger
Jan 15, 2011

Not any particular 'moment' in a movie, but I saw some people talking about the movie Moon in the Gif thread, and I didn't want to go off topic there, so I wanted to come over here to say that the director of that movie is the son of David Bowie, who many of you know was made famous by a song about an astronaut trapped in space.

Moon is about an astronaut who is trapped in space.

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

The best-best part of that is David Bowie's real name is David Jones, but he changed his real name to his stage name. He named his son Jowie Bowie, who got so sick of the name that he changed his name to Duncan Jones. :allears:

Marengo
Aug 6, 2012

death .cab for qt posted:

The best-best part of that is David Bowie's real name is David Jones, but he changed his real name to his stage name. He named his son Jowie Bowie, who got so sick of the name that he changed his name to Duncan Jones. :allears:

Actually his name was originally Zowie, and he went by Joey for a while.

yoctoontologist
Sep 11, 2011

death .cab for qt posted:

The best-best part of that is David Bowie's real name is David Jones, but he changed his real name to his stage name. He named his son Jowie Bowie, who got so sick of the name that he changed his name to Duncan Jones. :allears:

David Robert Jones.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"

mysterious frankie posted:

Did you... take appropriate steps... before watching the movie? That, I've found, is the explanation for every blatant movie detail I missed from age 20-25.

In my defense, I'd only seen it in full once. They played it twice in a row, and seeing the beginning right after the end, I had an :aaa: moment.

Prolonged Panorama
Dec 21, 2007
Holy hookrat Sally smoking crack in the alley!



Just watched Jurassic Park again, it's one of my favorite movies, in part because it's so well done - the attention to detail is incredible.

For example, on this viewing, I noticed that when Dodgson meets Nedry at the outdoor cafe, Dodgson exits his taxi but doesn't bother to close the door. As he walks towards the camera, in the background you can see the taxi driver angrily get out, walk around the car, shut the door Dodgson left open, and make a "what the hell man" gesture towards him. Dodgson has like two minutes of screen time but they pack as much characterization in as possible.

It's not really anything subtle, but the extent to which Jurassic Park treats its audience with respect is cool too. The computer systems, control room, and utility shed backup power box are all Hollywood-ized to a certain extent, but they're not the insulting caricatures of technology you usually see in blockbusters. For example, Ellie having to prime the generator, and then push "push to close," under the words "contact position." That may or may not be how it really works, but it feels realistic in that the viewer/Ellie wouldn't know what to just looking at it, but it isn't just meaningless techno-babble either - we understand that she's flipping the main circuit breaker back on.

Basically the little esoteric technical asides that were a hallmark of Crichton's novels made it in to the movie too, and the world feels all the more real for it. Everything in the movie is justified in the world of the movie - there's no obvious stuff that's there only for the plot, and yet everything that we need for the plot to work (relevant characterization, little infodumps) is also provided. It's just such a coherent experience, and that's lacking in a lot of other movies.

Another thing I can think of is right before the T-rex attack, the cars are stopped in front of the fence, in the dark and in the rain. There's a wide shot of both cars, and the door on the farther one is open. The next shot is a closeup on Grant's hand, held out the open door, filling up his canteen with rain. It wouldn't have been confusing if the wide shot didn't show the door being open, but they put in that extra work.

When Tim and Lex are in the visitor's center, and they find all the deserts sitting out, the next shot we see starts on a huge plate of vegetables. What kind of kid is presented with cake and pie and gets broccoli instead? Oh right, Lex, the vegetarian!

There's also the prominent closeup shots of shotgun shells being loaded - first in to the ground sonar machine at the dig site, and later when Muldoon and Ellie are stocking up for the trip to the maintenance shed. The first shotgun shell is supposed to help people get closer to a Velociraptor, the second is supposed to keep Velociraptors away from people. The shotgun shell used to observe is successful (the skeleton shows up in detail), the shotgun shell used to control is ultimately useless.

Lastly, looking at the script, just before Gennaro gets off his little raft to go in to the amber mine, the dig leader says something in Spanish - it translates to "bet you $1000 bucks he falls." A few seconds later, Gennaro trips and almost falls.

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?

Prolonged Priapism posted:

It's not really anything subtle, but the extent to which Jurassic Park treats its audience with respect is cool too. The computer systems, control room, and utility shed backup power box are all Hollywood-ized to a certain extent, but they're not the insulting caricatures of technology you usually see in blockbusters. For example, Ellie having to prime the generator, and then push "push to close," under the words "contact position." That may or may not be how it really works, but it feels realistic in that the viewer/Ellie wouldn't know what to just looking at it, but it isn't just meaningless techno-babble either - we understand that she's flipping the main circuit breaker back on.

Any points Jurrasic Park gets elsewhere for decent representations of technology, it loses for 3D Flight Simulator UNIX Shell. :colbert:

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ProfessorProf posted:

Any points Jurrasic Park gets elsewhere for decent representations of technology, it loses for 3D Flight Simulator UNIX Shell. :colbert:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070409024417/http://www.sgi.com/fun/freeware/3d_navigator.html

Terminal Entropy
Dec 26, 2012

ProfessorProf posted:

Any points Jurrasic Park gets elsewhere for decent representations of technology, it loses for 3D Flight Simulator UNIX Shell. :colbert:

Why? fsn was a real thing and properly represented.

Quinn2win
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?

:psyduck: I don't know what to believe anymore.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!



I've been hearing "UNIX system lol" for years. I'm glad I can tell those insufferable pricks to shut up now.

Terminal Entropy
Dec 26, 2012

Len posted:

I've been hearing "UNIX system lol" for years. I'm glad I can tell those insufferable pricks to shut up now.

Funny thing is you could do the same thing with Compiz in a movie today and plenty of those insufferable pricks would scoff at it as being another example of Hollywood not being able to computer.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Len posted:

I've been hearing "UNIX system lol" for years. I'm glad I can tell those insufferable pricks to shut up now.

Well no, her line is still wrong.

fuckpot
May 20, 2007

Lurking beneath the water
The future Immortal awaits

Team Anasta

Prolonged Priapism posted:

When Tim and Lex are in the visitor's center, and they find all the deserts sitting out, the next shot we see starts on a huge plate of vegetables. What kind of kid is presented with cake and pie and gets broccoli instead? Oh right, Lex, the vegetarian!
When she sees the dinosaur she has a spoonful of jelly. Now unless that happened to be some kind of vegetarian jelly then she is breaking the rules a little bit there.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

For argument's sake what kid actually knows that jello is made from animal bones at her age? I mean I know it'd probably come up if she was researching vegetarianism, but isn't part of the joke that she's just a reactionary kid changing her diet as part of a vain attempt to find an identity?

Philip J Fry
Apr 25, 2007

go outside and have a blast
If you know UNIX at that age, you should know that gelatin is loving animal bones. :colbert:

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Aphrodite posted:

Well no, her line is still wrong.

They don't make fun of the line itself but the way the computer looks. So they're still wrong.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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fuckpot posted:

When she sees the dinosaur she has a spoonful of jelly. Now unless that happened to be some kind of vegetarian jelly then she is breaking the rules a little bit there.

There is vegetarian jelly. My sister's a veggie and we have always had to go looking for it, because not all brands are. Same with jelly-based sweets; Haribo isn't vegetarian, others are.

scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007

Prolonged Priapism posted:

Lastly, looking at the script, just before Gennaro gets off his little raft to go in to the amber mine, the dig leader says something in Spanish - it translates to "bet you $1000 bucks he falls." A few seconds later, Gennaro trips and almost falls.
Haha this is great, I never knew this.

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013

Len posted:

They don't make fun of the line itself but the way the computer looks. So they're still wrong.

Wait, what's the problem, it was a UNIX system wasn't it?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The page says it only ran on IRIX.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


I am not a book posted:

Wait, what's the problem, it was a UNIX system wasn't it?

gently caress if I know. I'm just going by what Aphrodite said. Apparently IRIX is based on UNIX though and I'm not familiar with either of those things.

I am not a book
Mar 9, 2013
Yeah, IRIX is Unix compilant, making it UNIX :colbert:
Also, in the spirit of Jurassic Park, here is the best painting known to man: http://www.galleryariana.com/raptor-vision-art/

Prolonged Panorama
Dec 21, 2007
Holy hookrat Sally smoking crack in the alley!



To keep the Jurassic Park chat going, I just remembered that the dig leader at the amber mine tells Gennaro that Hammond couldn't meet them (and deal with the family of the worker who died at the very start of the movie), because Hammond's daughter is getting a divorce.

Tim and Lex being invited down to the island to spend time with grandpa and look at dinosaurs is a way to distract them from their parents separating.

I'm pretty sure that's in the book too, and Lex is indeed a vegetarian because of her parents splitting up. So yeah it's reactionary and besides, a kid from the early 90s wouldn't have nearly as much exposure to what sort of foods are non-obviously animal based.

tobu
Aug 20, 2004

Bunny-Bee makes me happy!
In Jurassic Park the hunter, Muldoon, wears the same pants as Dr. Ellie Sattler. I don't think it means anything but I did notice it.

The most obvious subtle hint in that movie is the seatbelts on the helicopter that manage to secure Dr. Grant even though they are both female clips.

Vicissitude
Jan 26, 2004

You ever do the chicken dance at a wake? That really bothers people.

tobu posted:

The most obvious subtle hint in that movie is the seatbelts on the helicopter that manage to secure Dr. Grant even though they are both female clips.

This one took me a second, but yeah, Grant found a way.

Inzombiac
Mar 19, 2007

PARTY ALL NIGHT

EAT BRAINS ALL DAY


Vicissitude posted:

This one took me a second, but yeah, Grant found a way.

Dunno if you are quoting the movie on purpose but the two female clips working anyway is a nod to the future in which all the dinosaurs are female yet find a way to procreate.

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Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Another subtle Jurassic Park moment, this time a reference to the themes of ethics vs. advancement and unleashing something you can't control that run through the film. You may have noticed this photo on Nedry's monitor:


It's J. Robert Oppenheimer, the "father" of the atomic bomb.

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