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penismightier posted:As well as those, he did Memories of Murder, the best crime film ever made. I just watched this tonight and I have to vehemently disagree with my whole heart... Bong Joon-ho's movies are terrible, bi-polar clusterfucks that fail to satisfy on any level except for perhaps those who enjoy boggling at bizarre trainwrecks. His juxtaposition of goofy slapstick and grim seriousness simply doesn't work and left me wondering how this schizophrenic madman continues to get funding for his insane projects. Although if your idea of the best crime film ever made is a pastiche of Seven and the Keystone Cops, I guess this is the movie for you.
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zenintrude posted:I just watched this tonight and I have to vehemently disagree with my whole heart... Bong Joon-ho's movies are terrible, bi-polar clusterfucks that fail to satisfy on any level except for perhaps those who enjoy boggling at bizarre trainwrecks. His juxtaposition of goofy slapstick and grim seriousness simply doesn't work and left me wondering how this schizophrenic madman continues to get funding for his insane projects. Hm yeah every movie should be a grim slog through one emotion and one emotion only. I'll notify the Coen Brothers and Charlie Chaplin that comedy and and seriousness should never meet.
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penismightier posted:Hm yeah every movie should be a grim slog through one emotion and one emotion only. I'll notify the Coen Brothers and Charlie Chaplin that comedy and and seriousness should never meet. Did I say that it needs to be one or the other? No, I said that Bong Joon-ho is bad at mixing them... he goes way, way to far in one direction (the loving ridiculousness that was the murder reenactment) if he expects us to follow him way, way to the other direction (Detective Seo confronting the killer after he murder the school girl). And don't even get me started on how sickeningly cute it was that Detective Park shows up at just the exact perfect moment to present him with the DNA results! Oh and there's a[nother] conveniently timed train! It was like watching a soap opera. The worlds and characters depicted in Coen Bros. movies, while they may deal with serious stories in humorous ways, are expertly crafted in such a way that the seams do not show. Their films allows us to simultaneously laugh and be horrified (often at the same time!) at the brutality and ineptitude of man in such a way as you never feel like you're being yanked from one extreme to the other... they are well oiled, expertly guided experiences that deal with the full range of human emotions with characters that seem real within their universes. But this is probably a debate for some other thread... sorry for the rant/derail. testtubebaby fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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zenintrude posted:Did I say that it needs to be one or the other? No, I said that Bong Joon-ho is bad at mixing them... he goes way, way to far in one direction (the loving ridiculousness that was the murder reenactment) if he expects us to follow him way, way to the other direction (Detective Seo confronting the killer after he murder the school girl). And don't even get me started on how sickeningly cute it was that Detective Park shows up at just the exact perfect moment to present him with the DNA results! Oh and there's a[nother] conveniently timed train! It was like watching a soap opera. You crazy. You just crazy. (Also this isn't really a derail because I did post that sweet as gently caress poster).
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QuoProQuid posted:David Cronenburg's son releases his first movie, Antiviral in a few days. It already had a release in Canada. Good movie. Hard to sit through if you don't like needles, but good nonetheless.
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zenintrude posted:
Ok now I just have to see this movie because it if this comparison is even slightly valid it has got be the best crime film ever made.
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I mean, isn't contemporary Korean cinema kind of defined by its genre instability and the transgression of boundaries that you wouldn't see in Hollywood films? That's why you'll have a seemingly normal romantic comedy that suddenly has time-traveling aliens, or a psychological drama with a brief ultraviolent torture interlude, or a war film with a super-incongruous ice-ring knife fight.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Ok now I just have to see this movie because it if this comparison is even slightly valid it has got be the best crime film ever made. It's not. Seven is there, but the cops are inefficient because they've never dealt with a serial killer before and their department is wracked with systematic internal corruption that they barely even recognize themselves. It's more like Serpico + Seven.
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I have to admit, while I enjoyed the hell out of Mother I was a bit put off by the slapstick in The Host. Tragicomedy seems to be very difficult to pull off. e: haven't seen Memories of Murder, I need to get on that. Slate Action fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Only if Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century get an appearance. They made a full show from the old Looney Tunes episde? ...is it good? Also, Memories of Murder is one of the best films of the last decade from any country. And holy poo poo, the photography! I guess I can understand that some people might not love it, but how can someone hate it? Or not at least recognize that it's well crafted? Bugblatter fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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I just feel sorry for anyone who can't appreciate a great film.
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Bugblatter posted:They made a full show from the old Looney Tunes episde? It was a pretty cute cartoon, yeah. My parents really enjoyed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as12-yZGg-k
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Bugblatter posted:They made a full show from the old Looney Tunes episde? Not really. It only lasted like one season. Literally all I remember from it was one episode where Daffy gets a Green Lantern ring and Kevin Smith voices Hal Jordan. It's about as surreal as it sounds.
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The only episode I remember was the one which was a parody of Samurai Jack and it owned.
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Bugblatter posted:They made a full show from the old Looney Tunes episde? It was pretty funny as I recall. They had one episode that was an Iron Giant riff, another was a Green Lantern crossover, Tom Jones sings the theme song, and Randy Savage plays a gruff military man named Master Sgt. Emily Dickinson Jones.
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QuoProQuid posted:David Cronenburg's son releases his first movie, Antiviral in a few days. Antiviral is a good flick you should check out, Cronenberg Jr. is a little more accessible than his father, but still the apple is not far from the tree. Really, I don't think the apple fell off, it dropped onto another branch.
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Maxwell Lord posted:It was pretty funny as I recall. They had one episode that was an Iron Giant riff, another was a Green Lantern crossover, Tom Jones sings the theme song, and Randy Savage plays a gruff military man named Master Sgt. Emily Dickinson Jones.
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Tegan and Sankara posted:At least a couple of those buildings (the Gherkin, most notably) are actual buildings in London. The other poster had the London Eye. Like that thing's gonna be around in 200 years.
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This version of Star Trek still has a nuclear WW3 in its origin right? Its very unlikely in a nuclear war London wouldn't have been nuked repeatedly.
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Suzuki Method posted:It was a pretty cute cartoon, yeah. My parents really enjoyed it. Aku come back 
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Bugblatter posted:Also, Memories of Murder is one of the best films of the last decade from any country. And holy poo poo, the photography! I guess I can understand that some people might not love it, but how can someone hate it? Or not at least recognize that it's well crafted? Honestly, I wasn't wowed by the cinematography at all... it seemed competent but unexceptional. There were moments of inspiration, such as the scene where Detective Park returns to the first crime scene in the drain years later which looked great and the single take during the second crime scene, but by and large I'd say that the cinematography was pleasing but standard for the subject matter. It wasn't the star of the show, like you'd get from a movie shot by Christopher Doyle or Darius Khondji. Slate Action posted:I have to admit, while I enjoyed the hell out of Mother I was a bit put off by the slapstick in The Host. Tragicomedy seems to be very difficult to pull off. CharlieFoxtrot posted:I mean, isn't contemporary Korean cinema kind of defined by its genre instability and the transgression of boundaries that you wouldn't see in Hollywood films? That's why you'll have a seemingly normal romantic comedy that suddenly has time-traveling aliens, or a psychological drama with a brief ultraviolent torture interlude, or a war film with a super-incongruous ice-ring knife fight. I think this probably has a lot to do with my reaction to Memories of Murder (and Slate Action, I had a similar reaction to The Host; I was fully on board with the movie until the bizarre and off-putting scene in the emergency shelter following the initial attack) as I was going into it -- since it's based on actual events -- expecting Zodiac and I got... something else. And that's not to say that Zodiac didn't have moments of levity to break up the intense subject matter and shed light on some of the investigation's missteps, since I'd argue that this is one of the most important facets of the Paul Avery character. penismightier posted:It's not. Seven is there, but the cops are inefficient because they've never dealt with a serial killer before and their department is wracked with systematic internal corruption that they barely even recognize themselves. It's more like Serpico + Seven. There's inefficient/corrupt and then there's bumbling. You don't need to have cops tripping down hills, playing loving cat's cradle while the rest of their squad searches for a dead body, or jump kicking every suspect they come across to show just how out of their element they are. And although my comparison to Keystone Cops was obviously hyperbole, the point stands that Bong Joon-ho has a tendency to take things just one or two steps past the point where they need to go. Mister Chief posted:I just feel sorry for anyone who can't appreciate a great film. penismightier posted:You crazy. You just crazy. I feel sorry as well. I don't think anyone, save for Armond White, goes into a film hoping that they'll hate it and feel like they'd rather have those two hours back. I'm a huge fan of good police procedurals, so after Memories of Murder was praised here and on the Film Junk podcast within the span of a day, I knew that I had to check it out. And don't get me wrong, based on IMDb, Rotten Tomatoes, Metacritic, and the general consensus here, I know that I'm definitely in the minority of people who do not think this movie is fantastic. It's actually distressing me since I feel like I have a fairly refined cinema palate. That all said, I do like the poster and wish more films would use screen grabs rather than floating heads to sell their product. testtubebaby fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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You (and everyone else) should watch A Bittersweet Life, starring Storm Shadow and from the director of The Last Stand. That may not sound so hot but you have to trust me on this, it's incredible. It also has a really boring poster. 
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ReV VAdAUL posted:This version of Star Trek still has a nuclear WW3 in its origin right? Its very unlikely in a nuclear war London wouldn't have been nuked repeatedly. Star Trek's WW3 nuclear war was more of a tactical situation rather than full onslaught. Or, hey, maybe the new movie is ditching that stupidity.
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Sheldrake posted:Star Trek's WW3 nuclear war was more of a tactical situation rather than full onslaught. Or, hey, maybe the new movie is ditching that stupidity. Where did you get that? 600 million people died and huge regions of the world dissolved into anarchy known as the post-atomic horror. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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Sheldrake posted:Star Trek's WW3 nuclear war was more of a tactical situation rather than full onslaught. Or, hey, maybe the new movie is ditching that stupidity. Why is humanity emerging phoenix like from the ashes of nuclear war as an explanation for why the Federation is so noble a stupid idea?
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Wasn't a lot of WW3 stuff retconned later on when DS9 and Voyager started going back to the 20th Century? I'm mostly thinking of that episode with Sarah Silverman. Edit: Nope, that was the time period of the Eugenics War. My bad, got my fictional wars jumbled up, and this is what I was thinking of: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Eugenics_Wars#Apocrypha Tears In A Vial fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Apr 10, 2013 |
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Is The Yellow Sea any good? I thought The Chaser was a pretty average film and I know it's from the same director.
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I thought it was good, despite devoting alot of screen time to horrendous hatchet and knife combat. If Korea is anything like Korean movies everyone must have hepatitis by now from the lakes of blood.
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Mister Chief posted:Is The Yellow Sea any good? I thought The Chaser was a pretty average film and I know it's from the same director. Personally I thought The Chaser was better but it's definitely a good film worth your time. Although it has one of the worst car chases ever put to film. Thanks for reminding me of The Chaser's ending, you jerk. 
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I really enjoyed The Yellow Sea but I thought Chaser was excellent. I also watched The Good the Bad and the Weird last night (which I thought was a pretty fun western-ish romp) and while most posters for it are rubbish I quite like this one even though it's just a still of the movie: 
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I must admit, there's something hilarious and totally on-point in calling that film an "Oriental Western". How else would you describe it? I suppose you could go the Tarantino route and call it an Eastern, but that might get confusing. Also both of those posters are great and the movie is fantastic, especially the massive chase scene set to Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood. Gave me goosebumps.
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zenintrude posted:How else would you describe it? I suppose you could go the Tarantino route and call it an Eastern, but that might get confusing. Aren't Soviet Westerns called Easterns? At least the ones that take place in the eastern steppes.
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