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FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

Fluo posted:

Steve Bell's cartoon for tomorrow, posted early:


Gustave Doré did illustrations for an edition of Divine Comedy, that one is from the Inferno part.

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Mr. Squishy
Mar 22, 2010

A country where you can always get richer.

Geokinesis posted:

Gustave Doré did illustrations for an edition of Divine Comedy, that one is from the Inferno part.



I've been faffing around for minutes trying to upload such a picture. That's the spirit of Faranita degli Uberti who represents something something I've never read Dante.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Fluo posted:

Steve Bell's cartoon for tomorrow, posted early:

Only the sixth circle?

(Original is Doré's illustration of Farinata degli Uberti, who was condemned to burn in a tomb for heresy. Heresy is punished in the sixth circle, further from the middle than the violent or malicious crimes. efb on the original engraving though.)

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I would have gone for the one where the humans are whipped with spikes to run through tar pits or whatever. It's one of the first areas in the eighth circle and it's one of the most :black101: things ever and I could see how malice/anger could be applied to her.

\/\/\/: Ok that first one is loving brilliant.

mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 9, 2013

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Indy:


Daily Mail:

quote:

WHO'S BIG ENOUGH?

quote:

Mac's tribute to Mrs Thatcher in the Mail after she resigned on November 22, 1990

:negative: I knew I'd regret MAC coming back, guess he got woke out of bed to do a cartoon.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

No he didn't, that's a reprint.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Forums Terrorist posted:

No he didn't, that's a reprint.

Ahahaha, couldn't even draw a new one.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

MAC is secretly Thatcher, it would explain the lovely quality of his work recently.

Also, I really wish they sold the Socialist Worker near me. I think that's the first time anybody's ever said that.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Have some Thatcher cartoons from the modern past. Will post some from the 80s soon.

























A taster from the 80s:

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
There was a collection of Bell's Thatcher cartoons in the second-hand bookshop last week. It was £2.95.

Bet it's a bit more than that now.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
:eng101:

Would that it were so.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Some more bits and bobs of Thatcher;


(Couldn't find the fullscale one :()

































Fluo
May 25, 2007

Thatcher, Thatcher, THATCHER, thatcher.

Guardian:





Telegraph:



Indy:



_______________________

Don't forget, if you haven't played it before, you can be Maggie Thatcher! in this great dole playing game.

quote:

Thatcher: A Dole Playing Game http://imgur.com/a/zwHfd



Fluo, OP posted:

The most successful comic strips depend more on the right villain than any hero or combination of protagonists, so this quirky little oddment was better placed than most for success. Created by British legends Pat Mills and Hunt Emerson this strident, polemical satire puts the boot in on the appalling tactics and philosophies of the third term Thatcher government with savagely hilarious art and stunningly biting writing.

The concept is simple now but groundbreaking in 1987. The reader is to be Prime Minister Maggie who, by reading sections of the book and selecting a choice of action at the end of each chapter is directed to another page to experience the ramifications of that decision. The objective is to win another election, and the method is to make only vote-winning decisions – thus the multiple-choice page-endings. The intention is not to win the game, obviously.

This powerful piece of graphic propaganda may have dated on some levels but the home-truths are still as pertinent. Even as Maggie and her demented pack of lap-dogs wriggled and squirmed on Mills and Emerson’s pen-points, their legacy of personal gain was supplanting both personal and communal responsibility to become the new norm. Today’s Britain is their fault and this book still reminds us of a struggle too few joined and a fight we should have won, but didn’t.

It’s still really, really funny though…

Fluo fucked around with this message at 00:28 on Apr 10, 2013

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"

Fluo posted:


(Couldn't find the fullscale one :()



And today's crop:

Fake edit: dangit, Fluo!

No Mail, due to Mac's continued absence; no Express, since they seem to be uploading the same North Korean cartoon every day.

Have one of the endings of that dole-playing game, taken from You Chose Wrong:

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Ah cheers, couldn't seem to find the full image! :3:

Also Thatcher: A Dole Playing Game is a great adventure book (in my last post is an album with all the pages if anyone wants to play it! :3:)

BastardySkull
Apr 12, 2007

Fluo posted:

Thatcher, Thatcher, THATCHER, thatcher.

Guardian:



Really not keen on this.

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Does anyone have that one of Maggie in hell with the Iron Ladies Internationale chorus?

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

BastardySkull posted:

Really not keen on this.

I'd be pretty happy to not see him do another Philpott cartoon.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Fluo posted:

Some more bits and bobs of Thatcher
Thanks for that, some of those are amazing.

BastardySkull posted:

Really not keen on this.
Agreed - I can see the logic behind it, as a satirical reversal of Osborne's revolting position, but it's hugely insensitive both to the families of the children and to other women and children in similar family set ups.

BastardySkull
Apr 12, 2007

Kegluneq posted:

Thanks for that, some of those are amazing.

Agreed - I can see the logic behind it, as a satirical reversal of Osborne's revolting position, but it's hugely insensitive both to the families of the children and to other women and children in similar family set ups.

Well yeah its sort of riffing on an abusive relationship filled with domestic violence to make a 'satirical' and 'humorous' gag about Osborne, Clegg and Cameron and their relationship but it's just loving crass he needs to stop.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

BastardySkull posted:

Well yeah its sort of riffing on an abusive relationship filled with domestic violence to make a 'satirical' and 'humorous' gag about Osborne, Clegg and Cameron and their relationship but it's just loving crass he needs to stop.

I do see the logic behind it, as Osborne openly came out and started attacking them and pretty much made it seem anyone on benefits where like the Philpotts. So since Osborne, Cameron and Clegg are living in government paid housing Osborne was saying he is just like them (aka killing children). But I agree it is in poor taste. :smith:

It makes me really awkward reading this weeks IF...

edit:

I do think its playing off what Osborne's view of working class is, and not what Steve Bell's view of the working class is but even so.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Apr 10, 2013

Fluo
May 25, 2007

A couple more from the past, and one looking into the future.....




Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge


:stare:

Jaysus, that's dark.

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Guardian:

Foreign secretary William Hague defends the decision to use public money to fund the costs of Margaret Thatcher's funeral

Telegraph:



Daily Mail:

The funeral of Margaret Thatcher has been arranged for next Wednesday.

quote:

“Once we get there, does anyone know the way to St Pauls?”

The funeral is on the day I get paid? Awesome.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Apr 11, 2013

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Before I read the caption, I thought that Mac was suggesting that now she was dead the Falklands would be immediately abandoned.

Definitely a rats-fleeing-a-sinking-ship type thing.

goatface fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 11, 2013

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
Independent:



Yeah, I got nothing. :shrug:

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002



Hahaha holy poo poo

Fluo
May 25, 2007

goatface posted:

Before I read the caption, I thought that Mac was suggesting that now she was dead the Falklands would be immediately abandoned.

Definitely a rats-fleeing-a-sinking-ship type thing.

The funeral on Wednesday is going to be "falklands war themed". :suicide:


And have some more past Thatcher cartoons:

Steve Bell;













Martin Rowson;










Dan Brown:


Ralph Steadman:




Gerald Scarfe;

Fluo fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Apr 11, 2013

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Cloud Potato posted:

Independent:



Yeah, I got nothing. :shrug:



It's a parody of Millais' Ophelia.

[e]: Yeah, there doesn't seem to be anything deeper than, "Drowning pose".
VVV

Pesky Splinter fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 11, 2013

Niric
Jul 23, 2008


I'm not really seeing the connection between Ophelia and Ed; am I just being dense here? As far as I can tell, the cartoon is suggesting that the (affected) grief at Thatcher's death is drowning (out) Miliband and/or leaving him floundering. And this makes him like Ophelia because she also drowned?

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
Maybe it's because Ed's gone crazy like most of new Labour (with the whole "We can out Tory the Tories") and should just drown.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.

LP97S posted:

Maybe it's because Ed's gone crazy like most of new Labour (with the whole "We can out Tory the Tories") and should just drown.

Annoyingly it seems to be working, http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/margaret-thatcher/52435/labour-ahead-14-points-margaret-thatcher-backfire-tories

quote:

The Tories, according to polling conducted for The Sun over Tuesday and Wednesday, have slumped to 28 per cent, while Labour are up at 42 per cent, raising fears among Tory supporters that the very public outpouring of grief at the passing of the Great Warrior Queen might have backfired. (The Lib Dems just squeaked home ahead of UKIP – with 12 per cent to the Farage teram's 11 per cent.)

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Niric posted:

I'm not really seeing the connection between Ophelia and Ed; am I just being dense here? As far as I can tell, the cartoon is suggesting that the (affected) grief at Thatcher's death is drowning (out) Miliband and/or leaving him floundering. And this makes him like Ophelia because she also drowned?

quote:

Ophelia has fallen into the river from a tree overhanging it, while gathering flowers. She lies in the water singing songs, as if unaware of her danger ("incapable of her own distress"). Her clothes, trapping air, have allowed her to temporarily stay afloat ("Her clothes spread wide, / And, mermaid-like, awhile they bore her up."). But eventually, "her garments, heavy with their drink, / Pull'd the poor wretch from her melodious lay" down "to muddy death."

Maybe it's a comment on how all the affected grieving and tributes are being used to push the Tory agenda, and Miliband is happily floating along with it, unaware that it's going to punish him

Fluo
May 25, 2007




Telegraph:


Gotta love the Torygraph trying to make it out as partiers / protesters are all part of Black Bloc type kind of thing. There will always be some there but they're not the loving core of it, how its drawn you're meant to hate them but like the other 3. Note the policeman has his weapon under his waist, where as the anarchist has it above (with added Molotov!).

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Fluo posted:

how its drawn you're meant to hate them but like the other 3. Note the policeman has his weapon under his waist, where as the anarchist has it above (with added Molotov!).

The first thing that came to mind wasn't the position of the weapon, but the type of shield and baton and this quote:

Irvine Welsh posted:

We can see them, gettin ready, wi their helmets, short shields and batons.
‘This is outrageous,’ one old Yorkshire miner says, eyes seared with rage, ‘they ain’t used riot squads against pickets in this coontry!’
‘Them fookin small shields,’ another gadgie shouts, ‘they’re for aggro, not fookin defendin their sen!’
The boy’s called it right, cause as we stand our ground, the bastards charge forward and it’s loving mental.

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
Guardian:


"Former prime minister says party must remain firmly rooted in the centre ground."

Independent:



Daily Mail:

"The number of organ donations has soared during the last year."

“Once we get there, does anyone know the way to St Pauls?”

I'm not sure if they've left yesterday's caption up there by mistake, or if it's one of the most macabre cartoons I've ever seen. Dibs on her bile duct! :unsmigghh:

EDIT: Real caption: “If only she could’ve donated a fraction of her guts and determination to today’s politicians.”

And the Express's website this week:



Look at the selection bar at the bottom. They've uploaded the same comic every day this week. How have they not noticed this? :psyduck:

Cloud Potato fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Apr 12, 2013

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

baka kaba posted:

Maybe it's a comment on how all the affected grieving and tributes are being used to push the Tory agenda, and Miliband is happily floating along with it, unaware that it's going to punish him

That's a great interpretation and even ties in with the issue of Ophelia's death being seen as a suicide ("Is she to be buried in Christian burial that wilfully seeks her own salvation?"): you could read it as suggesting Ed has committed political suicide (though as Mahmoud said, eulogising Thatcher hasn't exactly hurt Ed).

Fluo
May 25, 2007

Cloud Potato posted:

Guardian:


"Former prime minister says party must remain firmly rooted in the centre ground."

I love you Steve Bell!

Cloud Potato posted:



Look at the selection bar at the bottom. They've uploaded the same comic every day this week. How have they not noticed this? :psyduck:

The cartoonist has been in bed crying and getting depressed that Maggie crocked? I can't think of any reason otherwise!

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Fluo posted:

Gotta love the Torygraph trying to make it out as partiers / protesters are all part of Black Bloc type kind of thing. There will always be some there but they're not the loving core of it, how its drawn you're meant to hate them but like the other 3. Note the policeman has his weapon under his waist, where as the anarchist has it above (with added Molotov!).

So? The whole thread is full of people doing that to groups that they dislike.

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Fluo
May 25, 2007

Cliff Racer posted:

So? The whole thread is full of people doing that to groups that they dislike.

That cartoon isn't satirical. And generally I was just talking about? Otherwise its just be nothing in this thread apart from images.

Fluo fucked around with this message at 09:15 on Apr 12, 2013

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