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Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


radical meme posted:

I would bet that he knows. So if he's saying that then it's to denigrate the focus on STEM fields as another example of useless liberal mandates that are destroying our youth. The next time his listeners hear STEM, the first thing they will think of is how Rush said it was worthless.

It took him about an hour and a half and a looooong commercial break before he came back and said what it meant. He seemed sort of surprised and yeah, he genuinely seemed clueless about it.

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Manifest Dynasty
Feb 29, 2008

Solkanar512 posted:

How does he get away with this given that the business world can't stop screaming about "dumb humanities majors" and the need for more STEM majors and H1-B visas?

I think this is another incident like his Lord's Resistance Army thing. There is some letter that has gone viral or something, and he decided to jump in without actually knowing anything about it. It was a social studies teacher complaining about a lack of "real education" and "creativity" and "STEM rules the day." It was actually the type of thing you would expect him to mock, but he decided to go with the "agree with something criticizing our education system" so that he can make a point about LIBERALS RUININ' EVERYTHING AND INDOCTRINATING YOUR KIDS. He actually suggested that STEM is some government program to indoctrinate kids.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

It never ceases to amaze me that conservatives I know who have really good educations, undergrad and grad degrees from decent universities, take their political views and march lockstep with pinheads like Rush and Hannity and Beck when they'd never hire their college dropout asses to help run their company.

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Manifest Dynasty posted:

Rush is dumb, doesn't know what STEM means in the context of education. "Probably some sort of program."

STEM = ACORN, it makes sense.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I din't hear the program so I have to defer to you guys on whether or not he was ignorant of what STEM stands for. Either way, he left the impression in the minds of his listeners that STEM fields are meaningless and not worth our tax dollars cause if it was important, Rush would already know about it. He does this a lot and he constantly reminds listeners that only the news he provides is worth knowing.

Also, when Rush and Levin use some derogatory variation of names its annoying but, I have to laugh and roll my eyes cause they actually sound like a 10 year old schoolyard bully when they do it. Especially Levin, he just sounds pathetic when his shrill whiny voice rattles off some bastardization of a proper name.

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

FlamingLiberal posted:

The ANC former leadership released a letter yesterday upon hearing about her death that literally starts with 'good riddance'.

Just as a little followup to the Thatcher news: Judy Garland's "Ding dong, the witch is dead" has reappeared in the UK charts and I couldn't be more amused.

Elephant Ambush
Nov 13, 2012

...We sholde spenden more time together. What sayest thou?
Nap Ghost

Zwabu posted:

It never ceases to amaze me that conservatives I know who have really good educations, undergrad and grad degrees from decent universities, take their political views and march lockstep with pinheads like Rush and Hannity and Beck when they'd never hire their college dropout asses to help run their company.

They just memorize what the professors want to hear and do whatever it takes to graduate. All they care about is getting the piece of paper that says "I am now entitled to a high salary". Remember that to conservatives, the ends always justify the means.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Minorities posted:

They just memorize what the professors want to hear and do whatever it takes to graduate. All they care about is getting the piece of paper that says "I am now entitled to a high salary". Remember that to conservatives, the ends always justify the means.
It's just like the few Creationists with real Doctorates; they didn't get them to advance scientific understanding, they did it so they could appear authoritative while spewing bullshit.

Azuth0667
Sep 20, 2011

By the word of Zoroaster, no business decision is poor when it involves Ahura Mazda.
The funniest part is that if it weren't for conservatives constantly gutting education we might have a functioning education system that could deliver all they are whining for.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

Azuth0667 posted:

The funniest part is that if it weren't for conservatives constantly gutting education we might have a functioning education system that could deliver all they are whining for.

It's almost like cutting their funding, whining about the lack of quality as a result, and then selling them off to the highest bidder (or low bidding buddies) was the point all along.

Spaceman Future!
Feb 9, 2007

Azuth0667 posted:

The funniest part is that if it weren't for conservatives constantly gutting education we might have a functioning education system that could deliver all they are whining for.

Its not funny, its "starving the beast" (or at least what they call it rather than "we are selling your future, hahah suck it") so they can privatize it and profit. There is no misguided attempts to reduce federal funding at play there, just good old fashioned greed. Its just easier to rile up idiots and get them to do your bitching for you as a smokescreen than to try to hide it.

based gaddis
Jul 4, 2012

radical meme posted:

Especially Levin, he just sounds pathetic when his shrill whiny voice rattles off some bastardization of a proper name.

I like to imagine that all of his bile stems from a thwarted childhood dream of writing for Mad magazine. "MSLSD" is Mark Levin's "Rosebud."

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.
"Test our political rivals for their intelligence" said the on-air cable tabloid personality strategically positioned at the command of her boss to show off her legs to the audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hno-jOdaEI

Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

Grognan posted:

STEM = ACORN, it makes sense.

Trees are running this country! Their roots are in everything! Even the air we breathe! No wonder the left wing is against climate change! :tinfoil:

Has anybody mentioned Canada's resident Rush, Ezra Levant? That guy's hilarious - former Conservative politician, tobacco lobbyist, and current racist. Anybody who hates David Suzuki is basically a monster. He almost got his newspaper sued when he called George Soros a Nazi.

Bleu fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Apr 11, 2013

platedlizard
Aug 31, 2012

I like plates and lizards.

Grognan posted:

STEM = ACORN, it makes sense.

I was having trouble what STEM meant in this context because supporting science and engineering programs seems to be common sense, so obviously they were talking about something else, right? Except, not. :eng99:

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Spacedad posted:

"Test our political rivals for their intelligence" said the on-air cable tabloid personality strategically positioned at the command of her boss to show off her legs to the audience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hno-jOdaEI

Even they have to know how extremely, ridiculously badly this would backfire on them. Yes, please, test, for instance, an ex-president of the harvard law review for his IQ. Then he'll be ousted! Meanwhile, good ol' Mitch would score a 190.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

Warchicken posted:

Even they have to know how extremely, ridiculously badly this would backfire on them. Yes, please, test, for instance, an ex-president of the harvard law review for his IQ. Then he'll be ousted! Meanwhile, good ol' Mitch would score a 190.

Nah, they would just spin it into a kinda "Them goddamn Ivy League Liberals think they're smarter 'n you! I 'aint gonna stand for it :bahgawd:"

Justin Trudeau
Apr 4, 2009

There's a level of admiration I actually have for China because their basic dictatorship is allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime

Bleu posted:

Trees are running this country! Their roots are in everything! Even the air we breathe! No wonder the left wing is against climate change! :tinfoil:

Has anybody mentioned Canada's resident Rush, Ezra Levant? That guy's hilarious - former Conservative politician, tobacco lobbyist, and current racist. Anybody who hates David Suzuki is basically a monster. He almost got his newspaper sued when he called George Soros a Nazi.

You forgot the best part:

Ezra Levant posted:

These are gypsies, a culture synonymous with swindlers. The phrase gypsy and cheater have been so interchangeable historically that the word has entered the English language as a verb: he gypped me. Well the gypsies have gypped us. Too many have come here as false refugees. And they come here to gyp us again and rob us blind as they have done in Europe for centuries … They’re gypsies. And one of the central characteristics of that culture is that their chief economy is theft and begging.
Ezra Levant is Jewish and apparently irony impaired.

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe
Fox News just spent the last half hour whining about someone secretly recording Mitch McConnell and advisors discussing dirty as poo poo political strategies to fight a potential Ashley Judd political run.

The same Fox News that played for months on end and that still has on their website the secretly recorded and maliciously edited video of ACORN employees which resulted in the employees' firing and the entire organization losing all its funding.



Oh, looks like they're back to the whining again.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

zeroprime posted:

Fox News just spent the last half hour whining about someone secretly recording Mitch McConnell and advisors discussing dirty as poo poo political strategies to fight a potential Ashley Judd political run.

The same Fox News that played for months on end and that still has on their website the secretly recorded and maliciously edited video of ACORN employees which resulted in the employees' firing and the entire organization losing all its funding.



Oh, looks like they're back to the whining again.

So, did they actually play the audio so their audience could hear what the tapes were about, or just complain about it?

The Angry Bum
Nov 10, 2005

Zwabu posted:

So, did they actually play the audio so their audience could hear what the tapes were about, or just complain about it?

Why would they do that? That would take away time from complaining about the Democrats and Obama using 'Gestapo tactics' on poor, innocent Republicans.

Any legit rumors as to where the recording actually came from? Also I can't help but laugh over conservatives absolutely losing their mind over this, looking to lock up any and every liberal in the country for breaking the law. Yet when one of their own (O'Keefe) actually gets CAUGHT inside a Senators office, disguised as an IT worker, trying to tamper with the phone lines and install a bug, they howl that it's some liberal conspiracy and the case is essentially tossed (just some mild probation) by some good-connected judges.

Spacedad
Sep 11, 2001

We go play orbital catch around the curvature of the earth, son.

zeroprime posted:

Fox News just spent the last half hour whining about someone secretly recording Mitch McConnell and advisors discussing dirty as poo poo political strategies to fight a potential Ashley Judd political run.

The same Fox News that played for months on end and that still has on their website the secretly recorded and maliciously edited video of ACORN employees which resulted in the employees' firing and the entire organization losing all its funding.



Oh, looks like they're back to the whining again.

This scandal is loving hilarious, but it doesn't surprise me in the least that this is the kind of thing republicans like McConnell do behind the scenes. However, I'm more knowledgeable about the depths of the republican party's present depravity than most, so to a lot of other people hearing it, it is a shock.

I am loving this age of secret recordings where even backroom assholes who make their 'kill the poor' rants in private soirees are no longer safe from scrutiny. (I.E. Romney's 47% tape.)


From the ABC article:

quote:

Benton went on to slam the recordings as "Gestapo kind of scare tactics" during an interview on Mike Huckabee's radio show.

"Recording our party plotting to use Gestapo scare tactics is Gestapo scare tactics!" :cry:

Spacedad fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Apr 11, 2013

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump

The Angry Bum posted:

Why would they do that? That would take away time from complaining about the Democrats and Obama using 'Gestapo tactics' on poor, innocent Republicans.

Any legit rumors as to where the recording actually came from? Also I can't help but laugh over conservatives absolutely losing their mind over this, looking to lock up any and every liberal in the country for breaking the law. Yet when one of their own (O'Keefe) actually gets CAUGHT inside a Senators office, disguised as an IT worker, trying to tamper with the phone lines and install a bug, they howl that it's some liberal conspiracy and the case is essentially tossed (just some mild probation) by some good-connected judges.

Joementum mentioned in the other thread that McConnell has some relative or associate of Ron Paul on his campaign staff. So that guy or some college aged intern who recorded it on his smart phone are likely culprits 1 and 2

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

dethslayer666 posted:

You forgot the best part:

Ezra Levant is Jewish and apparently irony impaired.

The part about gypped being a verb as proof for gypsies being thieves is just absolutely staggering. People say "Jewed" where I live just as much if not more than gypped.

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
http://www.wfpl.org/post/source-progress-kentucky-behind-mitch-mcconnell-campaign-recording

quote:

On Feb. 2, McConnell opened his campaign headquarters in the Watterson Office Park in Louisville and invited trusted GOP activists and select media outlets to an open house. The event lasted roughly two hours. Afterward, McConnell and several campaign advisors held a strategy session in an office meeting room.

Morrison and Reilly did not attend the open house, but they told Conway they arrived later and were able to hear the meeting from the hallway.

“They were in the hallway after the, I guess after the celebration and hoopla ended, apparently these people broke for lunch and had a strategy meeting, which is, in every campaign I've been affiliated with, makes perfect sense,” says Conway. “One of them held the elevator, the other one did the recording and they left. That was what they told to me from them directly.”

The meeting room door is next to the elevators on that floor. McConnell campaign manager Jesse Benton has told multiple media outlets the door was shut and locked on Feb. 2. But the door has a vent at the bottom and a large gap underneath.

“Apparently the gentlemen overheard the conversation and decided to record it with a phone or recording device they had in their pocket. Could've been an iPhone, could've been a Flip camera or something like that,” Conway say.

But wait! There's more!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/11/mitch-mcconnell-ethics-complaint_n_3062215.html

quote:

The Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) has asked the Senate ethics committee and the FBI to investigate whether McConnell was having a discussion about potential Judd weaknesses -- including her mental health and religion -- on government time.

“Using taxpayer-funded resources to pay staffers to dig up dirt on political opponents isn’t just an ethics violation, it’s a federal crime,” said CREW Executive Director Melanie Sloan. “As Sen. McConnell requested, the FBI is investigating the recording. A thorough and fair investigation necessitates the bureau also inquire into whether Sen. McConnell himself violated the law.”

Oh, one can only dream.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Edit: whoops wrong thread.

But I'll say it'd be just too perfect if Mitch got hoisted on his own petard over his MASTERFUL wiretap spin.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


Manifest Dynasty posted:

Rush is dumb, doesn't know what STEM means in the context of education. "Probably some sort of program."

This is a man who thinks that the Gramscian Socialist Conspiracy kept him from graduating college.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.
It sounds dumb, but I automatically assumed that Rush pushing the "STEM is bad" thing was nothing more complex than word association with stem cell research. I just tend to assume his audience is that shallow and that they're trained to just hate the word "stem" in any context because, as we all know, we have to murder infants to get stem cells.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
So McConnell's room wasn't bugged, they were just talking loudly enough for someone to eavesdrop and record?

PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

Of course his room wasn't bugged. Someone at the meeting taped it and released it.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

So McConnell's room wasn't bugged, they were just talking loudly enough for someone to eavesdrop and record?

Talking loudly in a room with a vent in the door that was located next to the elevator.

The Angry Bum
Nov 10, 2005

PeterWeller posted:

Of course his room wasn't bugged. Someone at the meeting taped it and released it.

Well good to get that cleared up a bit. Seemed more like the work of some staffers that just happened to be in the vicinity than all-out Mission Impossible style office wiretapping. Maybe conservative media will start to backpedahahahahahaha. Nah, they'll continue to claim that immoral liberals illegally bugged the office. Much easier to raise campaign money that way. Which is exactly what McConnell is doing.

Anyone even thinking that he'll face any kind of scrutiny or go under any ethics investigation is living in dream land. He's not getting touched.

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

The Angry Bum posted:

Well good to get that cleared up a bit. Seemed more like the work of some staffers that just happened to be in the vicinity than all-out Mission Impossible style office wiretapping. Maybe conservative media will start to backpedahahahahahaha. Nah, they'll continue to claim that immoral liberals illegally bugged the office. Much easier to raise campaign money that way. Which is exactly what McConnell is doing.

Anyone even thinking that he'll face any kind of scrutiny or go under any ethics investigation is living in dream land. He's not getting touched.

According to the group that claimed responsibility it wasn't someone at the meeting that taped it they were just talking loudly enough that someone in the room over could record it.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
The best course of action is going to be to condemn the government surveillance programs with the PATRIOT Act being associated with that socialist, fascist Obama.

You know, the Patriot Act that President Obama signed in during his negative second term back in 2001?

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

Miltank posted:

The part about gypped being a verb as proof for gypsies being thieves is just absolutely staggering. People say "Jewed" where I live just as much if not more than gypped.

What lovely corner of the globe are you from?

7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

richardfun posted:

What lovely corner of the globe are you from?

I'm going to take a guess.



Because I've heard it too.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

richardfun posted:

What lovely corner of the globe are you from?

I've heard it from the older generation here in MN, but not from young people.

Lord Lambeth
Dec 7, 2011


7c Nickel posted:

I'm going to take a guess.



Because I've heard it too.

I heard it often enough when I lived in maryland so it's not necessarily a southern thing.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

richardfun posted:

What lovely corner of the globe are you from?

Hell, I've heard that poo poo out here in the rural Midwest from some dumber people. (Southern Wisconsin/Northern Illinois) I've similarly heard people go on about "The Jews" a few times with various conspiracy/racist theories plugged in- it's like a big grab bag of stupid bullshit when it comes to prejudices against Jews out here.

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PeterWeller
Apr 21, 2003

I told you that story so I could tell you this one.

richardfun posted:

What lovely corner of the globe are you from?

America. I've heard "jew" used as a verb for ripping people off everywhere from New York to Florida to Texas. Hell, I still have a terrible habit of saying I'm being "jewy" when I don't want to spend money.

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