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FreelanceSocialist posted:English or American barleywines? I've noticed that many of my customers who hated IPAs like American BWs, despite the hops profile. From there, they tried a few sweeter DIPAs (Laughing Dog Sneaky Pete, for instance) and have been transitioning into the fruitier IPAs. American barleywines(?), the sweeter/smoother ones (think Firestone Walker rather than SN Bigfoot). Though she also liked Oak Smoked OG so I dunno!
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:My fiance started out liking very sweet beers (drank 2 bombers of Creme Brulee in one night. TWO) and now completely despises anything sweet and seems to enjoy light sessionable hoppy beers now. i think that would put me off sweets for a while, too. if i were to make a Venn diagram of our household beer preferences, it would be something like: ME.............US........HER porter.........hefe......IPA stout.........sour......IIPA barleywine..saison....lager old ale.......blond......cider tripel....................fruit beers quad so, big-rear end stouts and barleywines are all mine, but i (gladly) have to share the sour stuff
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Apr 12, 2013 15:43
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So did she go straight to IPAs? What did she start with? What did you start with? It's always interesting to see how people's taste in beer evolves - makes it easier to recommend new beers to others who are headed down the same path.Podima posted:American barleywines(?), the sweeter/smoother ones (think Firestone Walker rather than SN Bigfoot). Though she also liked Oak Smoked OG so I dunno! Bigfoot is an American style. FW's Sucaba/Abacus is an English. American BWs tend to be very hop-forward; Lots of bitterness and an emphasis on US hop varieties and flavors/aromas. English BWs are "rounder", smoother, with better balance between the sweetness and the (typically earthy, noble) hops. Has she had the regular OG? Wondering if the smoke tones down the hops for her? FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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Apr 12, 2013 15:58
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SUPER HASSLER posted:Let me say that living in OR, I miss a couple of things. One is lots of really good basic stout. I'm not talking about KBS, but things like Left Hand as discussed above. My faves here are probably Oakshire Espresso Stout and a vanilla porter done by a place down south, Klamath Basin Brewing Co., that has a really embarrassing homepage so I'm not linking it here. The second, and more dire, is the near total lack of good hefes. I maybe wrong but here in Bend I'm in a situation where the best one is the Trader Joe's one. Luckily, it's quite good (really fruity tho). Obviously it's a different sub-style but I like Deschutes' Obsidian Stout a lot as a "good basic stout".
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^^^ Obsidian, yesFreelanceSocialist posted:So did she go straight to IPAs? What did she start with? What did you start with? It's always interesting to see how people's taste in beer evolves - makes it easier to recommend new beers to others who are headed down the same path. i didn't drink beer until after we met five years ago (hmm...) when we were both 28, so she was years ahead of me, but she mostly stuck to your grocery store beers- Sierra Nevada, Sam Adams, BMC, a local mediocre craft brewery, stuff like that. sours, saisons, and, oddly enough, big IPAs were all my doing. she's not really picky even now, though, and i generally buy beer for her because i have a somewhat encyclopedic memory of what and how much she likes certain things. i started off with stouts and porters exclusively and have slowly but surely grown to appreciate more and more. oh, my side of the diagram should include "anything bourbon-barrel aged." VVV i'm both in bottle shops more frequently and better at keeping track of what she likes (plus i'm a nice guy), so i buy beer for her. if she wants wine or something like PBR, she'll just get it while grocery shopping. funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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Apr 12, 2013 16:44
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My wife likes a lot of great beer. She also buys her own like any normal person. Don't any of you guys' wives/girlfriends do that? Do they not work or something?
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Apr 12, 2013 17:44
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FreelanceSocialist posted:Bigfoot is an American style. FW's Sucaba/Abacus is an English. American BWs tend to be very hop-forward; Lots of bitterness and an emphasis on US hop varieties and flavors/aromas. English BWs are "rounder", smoother, with better balance between the sweetness and the (typically earthy, noble) hops. Has she had the regular OG? Wondering if the smoke tones down the hops for her? Doh, my beer cred! You're right, it's the English barleywines she likes for the attributes you've outlined. We tried regular OG alongside the smoked version and she very much preferred the smoked version. So that's probably what's going on!
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Apr 12, 2013 17:53
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I Dont Like You posted:My wife likes a lot of great beer. She also buys her own like any normal person. Don't any of you guys' wives/girlfriends do that? Do they not work or something? I honestly think she just gets overwhelmed, so won't try anything new unless I pick it out. Also, "beer is a guy-thing". Just like trucks, football, and lifting weights, apparently.
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Apr 12, 2013 17:59
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Just be glad your SO doesn't like whiskey.
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Apr 12, 2013 18:04
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I Dont Like You posted:My wife likes a lot of great beer. She also buys her own like any normal person. Don't any of you guys' wives/girlfriends do that? Do they not work or something? Mine buys her own, she winds up picking up such odd things, "Just because." She's learning what to buy and not to buy though. The last thing she came home with was a 6 pack of Left Hand Milk Stout Nitro and a 6 pack of Southern Tier's HopSun. She's doing alright.
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Apr 12, 2013 18:18
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Just got back from my local liquor store and apparently NJ now gets Great Lakes Brewing Company - snagged a 12-pack that has Dortmunder Gold, Eliot Ness, Burning River, and Edmund Fitzgerald. Rad! There was also something new from Southern Tier - Live, a bottle conditioned pale ale in 6 packs. Anyone had this before?
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Apr 12, 2013 18:18
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Podima posted:Just got back from my local liquor store and apparently NJ now gets Great Lakes Brewing Company - snagged a 12-pack that has Dortmunder Gold, Eliot Ness, Burning River, and Edmund Fitzgerald. Rad! New Jersey has had Great Lakes for at least 6 years, at least I remember getting them when I was 21. As for Southern Tier Live, it's a pretty great pale ale.
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Apr 12, 2013 18:32
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Philly's got yet another beer bar opening, it's called Strangelove's, it's on 11th and Walnut, opens the 23rd. It's owned by the same folks who already have Local 44, Resurrection Alehouse, and Memphis Taproom, so they know what they're doing. Looking forward to this on opening day: Russian River Pliny the Elder Strangelove's Duet Cantillon Rose De Gambrinus Hair of the Dog/De Proef Flanders Fred Dieu Du Ceil Peche Mortel Schlenkerla Helles De Dolle Dulle Teve Brewers Art Ozzy Drie Fonteinen Zwet.be Bear Republic Racer 5 Victory Braumeister Pils Rodenbach Grand Cru Omnipollo Leon Nebraska Apricot Au Poirve Firestone Walker Pale 31 Yards Love Stout Dogfish Head Bitches Brew (2010) Allagash White
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Apr 12, 2013 18:43
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Midorka posted:New Jersey has had Great Lakes for at least 6 years, at least I remember getting them when I was 21. As for Southern Tier Live, it's a pretty great pale ale. I believe only southern Jersey got Great Lakes, they're state-wide now.
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Apr 12, 2013 18:44
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So, I just received my Dark Lord Day tickets. This will be my first year going, and actually my first "big release" event, though I've lived in the Chicago/NWI area most of my life. Is there historically a goon presence? What should I expect?
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Apr 12, 2013 18:59
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Avenged posted:So, I just received my Dark Lord Day tickets. This will be my first year going, and actually my first "big release" event, though I've lived in the Chicago/NWI area most of my life. Is there historically a goon presence? What should I expect? There are always goons there (ShaneB and I will be there, Bored is typically also there) but it can be difficult to actually meet up because of the mass of everything. Bring lots of cash, but no coolers. Last year I brought a soft shoulder bag cooler and they had no issues with it. Other than that, expect lots of beer, lots of waiting, lots of metal, and a fun party.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:11
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Phanatic posted:Philly's got yet another beer bar opening, it's called Strangelove's, it's on 11th and Walnut, opens the 23rd. It's owned by the same folks who already have Local 44, Resurrection Alehouse, and Memphis Taproom, so they know what they're doing. Looking forward to this on opening day: That's a really great location. I'm glad that restaurant group is doing well because all of their places are awesome. Memphis Taproom is the only place besides Farmer's Cabinet and Monks that I've seen JW Lees. They're pretty good about putting together great beer lists. And decent food too.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:14
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Avenged posted:So, I just received my Dark Lord Day tickets. This will be my first year going, and actually my first "big release" event, though I've lived in the Chicago/NWI area most of my life. Is there historically a goon presence? What should I expect? Hell yeah just picked up mine too! Missed out last year so I had try my best to go this year.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:17
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Paul Proteus posted:There are always goons there (ShaneB and I will be there, Bored is typically also there) but it can be difficult to actually meet up because of the mass of everything. Bring lots of cash, but no coolers. Last year I brought a soft shoulder bag cooler and they had no issues with it. Other than that, expect lots of beer, lots of waiting, lots of metal, and a fun party. I'd actually like to change things up and pop some bottles this year at one of the trading tables. I'm tired of standing in lines. Cross your fingers for sunny weather. I'm honestly getting really sick of overcast rainy days at this thing 
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Apr 12, 2013 19:22
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deadwing posted:I believe only southern Jersey got Great Lakes, they're state-wide now. Interesting, I was unaware there was a divide like that. Upon that information I just checked the distributor that brings Great Lakes to my area and they are South Jersey only. Sorry for jumping the gun then. Maybe Podima will get a distributor that doesn't suck then. Kramer Beverage is notorious for bringing out of code Brooklyn and Great Lakes to stores. Speaking of Farmer's Cabinet, I would avoid that place like the plague. My buddy just left there and aside from them storing kegs in 80+ weather in the summer, they don't clean their taplines. The last time they were cleaned was in January. They also don't clean that taps themselves. He said he's been soaking them and cleaning them, but at least half of them have a gross slimy build up in there.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:27
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Is there any type of presence from other local breweries, notably Chicago-area? Or is it just FFF? I really don't have much of a cellar, but I'd be happy to bring some homebrew to share.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:29
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Avenged posted:So, I just received my Dark Lord Day tickets. This will be my first year going, and actually my first "big release" event, though I've lived in the Chicago/NWI area most of my life. Is there historically a goon presence? What should I expect? My first DLD, too. Frankly, I avoided the whole event thing up until a few years ago. I blame disposable income... Unfortunately, I'm driving, have a ticket to Session E, and probably will not be sticking around very long to taste. But if there is a goon share going on, I may stop by.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:34
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Midorka posted:Speaking of Farmer's Cabinet, I would avoid that place like the plague. My buddy just left there and aside from them storing kegs in 80+ weather in the summer, they don't clean their taplines. The last time they were cleaned was in January. They also don't clean that taps themselves. He said he's been soaking them and cleaning them, but at least half of them have a gross slimy build up in there. I cannot believe Farmers is still a going concern given all the horrible stories about them on the internet. Maybe they just live off the excess traffic from "Irish Pub" down the street.
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Apr 12, 2013 19:35
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Midorka posted:Speaking of Farmer's Cabinet, I would avoid that place like the plague. My buddy just left there and aside from them storing kegs in 80+ weather in the summer, they don't clean their taplines. The last time they were cleaned was in January. They also don't clean that taps themselves. He said he's been soaking them and cleaning them, but at least half of them have a gross slimy build up in there. I actually haven't been there since Phoebe Esmon left early last year. She's an amazing mixologist and I figured something had to be up if both her and her fiance left a situation where they basically had the run of the bar. And shortly thereafter was when you started hearing all the rumors about that place. Then everyone of note started jumping ship. Frankly I'm amazed they are still open. Also yuck. Now I'm really glad I haven't been there in a while. edit - A quick anecdote about Farmer's Cabinet: I went in there after work one day and ordered one of the house cocktails and said something along the lines of "this is good but it would be better with gin instead of vodka" to the bartender. She replied "that's what I said" and kinda looked mad... I didn't realize that the bartender was Phoebe until the news of her leaving started circulating around. So maybe she didn't have as much control over what was going on in the bar. It gave me the impression that the owners had no idea what they were doing and they were putting their hands in everything. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I actually haven't been there since Phoebe Esmon left early last year. She's an amazing mixologist and I figured something had to be up if both her and her fiance left a situation where they basically had the run of the bar. And shortly thereafter was when you started hearing all the rumors about that place. Then everyone of note started jumping ship. Frankly I'm amazed they are still open. Was her fiance the one in charge of the beer? My buddy said the place really went to poo poo when some beer guy left in ~November. The lines were cleaned regularly until he left. Apparently the owner is a big fat Dead head who spends his money on blow and hookers instead of fixing up things that need it around the place.
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Midorka posted:Was her fiance the one in charge of the beer? My buddy said the place really went to poo poo when some beer guy left in ~November. The lines were cleaned regularly until he left. Apparently the owner is a big fat Dead head who spends his money on blow and hookers instead of fixing up things that need it around the place. It was before that. They both left at the beginning of last year. Then everyone else started jumping ship. Like the entire original bar crew left a few months after them and then their brewer left. Basically all the high profile names they hired to open the place said "gently caress this" and left after a few months.
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ShaneB posted:Just be glad your SO doesn't like whiskey. she does... I Dont Like You posted:My wife likes a lot of great beer. She also buys her own like any normal person. Don't any of you guys' wives/girlfriends do that? Do they not work or something? well, she's my wife, so we buy beer... HatfulOfHollow posted:It was before that. They both left at the beginning of last year. Then everyone else started jumping ship. Like the entire original bar crew left a few months after them and then their brewer left. Basically all the high profile names they hired to open the place said "gently caress this" and left after a few months. the draft list at FC is hilariously pedestrian compared to what it was even ~1yr ago.
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cryme posted:the draft list at FC is hilariously pedestrian compared to what it was even ~1yr ago. I went back to their website and yeah. Pretty much. They still serve good beer but it's just nothing that makes you say "I am probably never going to see this on tap ever again." Which is what it was like in the beginning. It's especially sad when you start going through their event calendar and you see things like this... quote:This project is a collaborative effort between Brian of Stillwater, Jeppe of Evil Twin, and Terry of Cabinet Brewhouse. and quote:Tapping begins at 3pm – all beers will be on by 5pm! and quote:Thomas, from the Mikkeller operation, will be hosting a class with 8 ridiculously special Mikkeller beers. gently caress. Whoever was coordinating their events and tap takeovers in the beginning was doing an amazing job. deedee megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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My wife doesn't like beer, but drinks terribly sweet wine like Barefoot Moscato and wine coolers. At least her alcohol habits are cheap!
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No Dark Lord Day for me this year. I have a gig at the Double Door that night, and have forsaken drinking, while my wife (who loves barleywines and barrel aged beers of all kinds) is pregnant and unable to drink, as a solidarity move.
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I'll be at DLD this year, but I'm not sure if I'm just gonna get my bottles and bail or stick around for festivities. I will almost certainly bring something to share in line though. Maybe a Cantillon Gueuze? edit: There is an amusing thread on BA about "DLD bingo": https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvGU_KrKP_T6dEhnR294OW13RXZtWFNvN2JHbWRhaEE#gid=0
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HatfulOfHollow posted:I went back to their website and yeah. Pretty much. They still serve good beer but it's just nothing that makes you say "I am probably never going to see this on tap ever again." Which is what it was like in the beginning. It's especially sad when you start going through their event calendar and you see things like this... I was there for all three of these. They were obviously spending money with reckless abandon in order to organize some of these things, weren't paying bills, staff, etc
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Apr 12, 2013 22:25
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Avenged posted:So, I just received my Dark Lord Day tickets. This will be my first year going, and actually my first "big release" event, though I've lived in the Chicago/NWI area most of my life. Is there historically a goon presence? What should I expect? Expect to be annoyed by elbow to elbow crowds in every direction. It's a good time but I wish they had more space for people to hang out. Last year I didn't get any of the taps and hung around the group I stood in line with and shared bottles. The crowd was so bad I didn't even bother to eat anything - big mistake! My hangover was terrible. This year I'm going to try and pace myself on bottle shares, try a few beers on tap, eat plenty of food, and drink lots of water.
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It sounds like a blast. I'm super excited, as I've tried to go the past few years and haven't been able to. The only real question I have now is what bands are actually going to be there. Thanks for your input guys, and I'm sure I'll see some of you there.
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That's not automatically a bad thing. FC was loving expensive. And a bunch of the beers they had on were beers that seemed to have been picked for their rarity, so they could charge $8 or $9 for an 8-ounce poor, rather than their quality. Not that I had anything there that was *bad*, but I did have some beers that didn't come close to justifying the prices charged for them. cryme posted:I was there for all three of these. They were obviously spending money with reckless abandon in order to organize some of these things, weren't paying bills, staff, etc Or their distributor. That's what blows my mind. If you are in the business of selling booze, *stiffing the guy who provides you with booze to sell* is the most boneheaded thing imaginable. And it's a standard pattern for the owner, to such an extent that I'm amazed anyone still loans him any money. My friend who's now at Mica worked for him at Fork & Barrel out in East Falls, he was stiffing her, she was about to leave until he promised her a management position at this new place that was opening in Philly, she said okay, and then when I went to FC about a week after it opened she'd already walked the gently caress out because he was already stiffing her again. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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Apr 12, 2013 22:48
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DC Brau coming to Richmond, anyone had their stuff? What should I be looking for?
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Garregus posted:DC Brau coming to Richmond, anyone had their stuff? What should I be looking for? the regular stuff they can is good-but-not-amazing, Penn Quarter Porter is excellent, and On the Wings of Armageddon is apparently amazing, but brewery-only (but watch Greg and/or An get some anyway), i think.
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funkybottoms posted:the regular stuff they can is good-but-not-amazing, Penn Quarter Porter is excellent, and On the Wings of Armageddon is apparently amazing, but brewery-only (but watch Greg and/or An get some anyway), i think. Yea, On the Wings of Armageddon is easily their best offering. I also really like The Corruption, which is their standard IPA.
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Green Bush Brother Benjamin. This is the booziest tasting IIPA I've ever had. Tastes like hops and alcohol. Would be okay for 4 oz. Gonna struggle with the 12 in front of me.
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Looooooved Penn Quarter Porter. I have a bottle in the kitchen cabinet for a special occasion. Wings was pretty good too, specially for an east coast brewery.
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