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Taker will probably be the first to retire, so he'll probably be the first to go in. Although Rey is on the verge of a career-ending injury.
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VogeGandire posted:Taker will probably be the first to retire, so he'll probably be the first to go in. Rey has already had a few career ending injuries he just refuses to take a hint
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Taker First. He has the least time left and isn't working behind the scenes. Toss up between Rey and HHH. HHH may not go in for a while because he doesn't believe his career is over and he's got a bunch of backstage stuff to do. Rey is up in the air because he's smart to the business and knows that a Hall of Fame induction can sometimes come with a legends contract. He'll probably end up working a part time scheduled for AAA for a few years till that dries up and then let Vince induct him. Macho ain't getting in so long as Vince is alive. Dude was hurt when he left and even more hurt when he found out about the domestic abuse. Yeah, other domestic abusers got in there but I think it hurt Vince on a personal level with Macho. This is just from internet rumours though, barely slightly more validity than the Stephanie rumours.
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They've been reaching out to Lanny Poffo ever since Savage died to get him into the hall of fame, so it's not a lack of interest on the WWE's side, but more Lanny wanting to stand by Randy's hope that their father would be inducted as well. The Savage/Vince thing is overstated now. In the last few years they've released a macho DVD, had him do publicity for their video games and Vince has written and spoken about him in favourable terms since his death. Savage is probably a matter of time now.
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Skinty McEdger posted:The Savage/Vince thing is overstated now. In the last few years they've released a macho DVD, had him do publicity for their video games and Vince has written and spoken about him in favourable terms since his death. The DVD had no Savage involvement and no documentary, and the video game was a totally outside deal. It's still a weird situation.
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Considering Rey's increasing fragility I honestly think he's gonna retire before Taker. Taker seems to enjoy his current light schedule based around Wrestlemania and I could see him keeping it up for a few more years. Honky Tonk Man seems a safe bet to inducted next year although he'd obviously be a secondary induction and not a headliner. Oh, and as far as questions for you guys' podcast: With the recent discussion of Meltzer's star ratings due to Wrestlemania and the 5 star Tanahashi/Okada match, who do you think is the best worker from the era Meltzer's covered (1983-present) who's never received recognition for a five star match, and what match if any of their career do you think deserved to be awarded 5 stars that Meltzer rated lower? Thauros fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Apr 12, 2013 |
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jeffersonlives posted:The DVD had no Savage involvement and no documentary, and the video game was a totally outside deal. It's still a weird situation. I think he had to sign a legends deal or something for his likeness to appear only recently with action figures and multiple video games.
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KungFu Grip posted:I think he had to sign a legends deal or something for his likeness to appear only recently with action figures and multiple video games. His deal was with Mattel, not WWE
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KungFu Grip posted:I think he had to sign a legends deal or something for his likeness to appear only recently with action figures and multiple video games. He signed deals with the companies directly, not with WWE.
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Thauros posted:With the recent discussion of Meltzer's star ratings due to Wrestlemania and the 5 star Tanahashi/Okada match, who do you think is the best worker from the era Meltzer's covered (1983-present) who's never received recognition for a five star match, and what match if any of their career do you think deserved to be awarded 5 stars that Meltzer rated lower? Bryan Danielson. Probably most of his matches with Nigel. The first Morishima match too. Also, just a lot of his RoH matches.
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Bard Maddox posted:Bryan Danielson. Probably most of his matches with Nigel. The first Morishima match too. Also, just a lot of his RoH matches. ...I was sure he had at least one. Yeah, in that case, Bryan is definitely overlooked.
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Kurt Angle is the other obvious one. There were people mad Dave snubbed the Mania match with Shawn and the Rumble match with Benoit.
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Does Chris Jericho have mild pectus excavatum? Watching Smackdown at the moment and it looks a bit like it to my eyes. But it is a Friday night and I'm having trouble keeping them open even. Have there been any demographic data released about LGBT wrestling fans?
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jeffersonlives posted:Kurt Angle is the other obvious one. There were people mad Dave snubbed the Mania match with Shawn and the Rumble match with Benoit. Angle was who I was thinking of because I honestly assumed Dave rated at least one Danielson match 5 stars. I guess looking at the list again his indie prime mostly corresponded with that 5 year period Dave was very stingy with handing out that final fraction of a star.
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A lot matches people thought should be ***** were always ****3/4 (and I don't mean random Elimination Chamber matches or w/e). I never knew how to interpret it.
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Dave is basically unwilling to give a "normal" WWE main event style match more than ****3/4 despite, in my opinion, generally overrating the entire genre, so there's a ton of ****3/4 Meltzer WWE matches between the ones that were consensus ***** elsewhere and the ones that were consensus ****-****1/2 and Dave was higher than the crowd on. It's a strange idiosyncrasy.
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HBK-Taker 1 should've been *****.
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jeffersonlives posted:Dave is basically unwilling to give a "normal" WWE main event style match more than ****3/4 despite, in my opinion, generally overrating the entire genre, so there's a ton of ****3/4 Meltzer WWE matches between the ones that were consensus ***** elsewhere and the ones that were consensus ****-****1/2 and Dave was higher than the crowd on. It's a strange idiosyncrasy.
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Apocalypso posted:Does Chris Jericho have mild pectus excavatum? Watching Smackdown at the moment and it looks a bit like it to my eyes. But it is a Friday night and I'm having trouble keeping them open even. I dont think so, but wrestler Alex Riley has it.
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KungFu Grip posted:wrestler Alex Riley Let's not get ahead of ourselves
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sportsgenius86 posted:HBK-Taker 1 should've been *****. I'm really not one to whine about Dave's star ratings, and when this one came out there was a lot of ridiculous fervor over it but now that it's died down a bit I have to say yeah that's about as good as a "WWE style" match can possibly be. But whatever. At the end of the day it's Dave's newsletter and he can rate the matches however he wants.
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I dunno, I always seem to differ by a quarter of a star or so from Meltzer, but I can't think of any particular WWE match that should have been five stars, considering the bench mark is Brett/Austin or Cena/Punk. That's a pretty high bar that hasn't often been met.
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Outside of HBK/Taker the only other match I thought Dave would have given a 5 to was the Triple Threat at WM 20.
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sportsgenius86 posted:HBK-Taker 1 should've been *****. Shawn said in Steve Austin's recent podcast interview with him that he wanted to retire after that match, because driving back to San Antonio from the show he told his wife it was perfect and he didn't know how he could do any better.
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sportsgenius86 posted:HBK-Taker 1 should've been *****. Nah, the Ground Zero match wasn't much. HBK-Taker 2 really was *****.
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I don't think Taker and HBK ever had a bad match, honestly. Which is impressive.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:I don't think Taker and HBK ever had a bad match, honestly. Which is impressive. The more incredible thing to me is that for as long as they were in WWF/WWE together - most of it during the era of overexposure and hotshotting - that they only had five singles matches, all major PPV matches, plus a handful of tags and battle royals.
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jeffersonlives posted:The more incredible thing to me is that for as long as they were in WWF/WWE together - most of it during the era of overexposure and hotshotting - that they only had five singles matches, all major PPV matches, plus a handful of tags and battle royals. The time from before Shawn's injury was probably because they didn't want to work together
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Or, more specifically, UT didn't want anything to do with Shawn. Whether the taped fists story is apocryphal or not, the fact Taker never did anything to disabuse people of the notion is somewhat telling.
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I don't think it's that, because they did work an extended program from SummerSlam 97 to Royal Rumble 98, and from 95-97 they were both on the face side in a period where WWF almost never did face vs. face. It's strange that they never worked together from 92-95, a period that predates Shawn's extreme behavioral issues when Shawn was an upper card heel and Taker was an upper card face, and it's really strange that WWE didn't go to the singles match well between them at any point between 2002 and 2009, even though they worked tag matches and Royal Rumble sequences against each other that both got over huge.
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Cowboy Bobs Hep C posted:Ten Count Question: What was you name before, because I'm dying of laughter right now.
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KungFu Grip posted:What was you name before, because I'm dying of laughter right now. That's was Slapnuts, Jelq The Sanem, and OUR HEAVENLY CHAMP all rolled into one
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Hope you like digressions; this week, we couldn't keep on topic for the life of us. There was plenty of good stuff, though! Topics: 1. WRESTLER OF THE WEEK: Larry Sweeney 2. How great is Brock Lesnar? Very. How dumb is a steel cage match for his feud with Triple H? Very. 3. Why does WWE seemingly hate Antonio Cesaro? He's awesome. They're dumb. 4. Was "Fandangoing" really a thing? 5. Which of these four wrestlers (Triple H, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Randy Savage) will get into the WWE Hall of Fame first? Of the three currently living, which will retire first? 6. FEUD OF THE WEEK: Steve Blackman vs. Shane McMahon 7. Is John Cena WWE's top heel? 8. Having unlimited funds and complete creative control, how would you save/rebuild the WWE women's division? 9. What wrestler/wrestling figure do you most associate with their current company, to the point where you can't see them working anywhere else? 10. Pandering! The Ten Count is now available on iTunes, and we have a blog, a Twitter account, and an email address! (I promise this is the only time I'll do this.) This has been a really big week for the podcast. We're on iTunes! We have a blog! We have a Twitter! I am excited!
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Dave Meltzer said The Rock is faking his injury!  Seriously though, that was one of the best WOR's they've done in ages. When's the last time they were both in on a bit?
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This cracked me up. As did Dave's attempt to mention the events in Boston. "That was a shame... and I watched the Hall of Fame last night." The Davest Dave to have ever Daved.
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