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The Gay Bean
Apr 19, 2004
Report it to the police. There's a chance that his face is on CCTV somewhere--they're everywhere. More importantly, why not? The worst that could happen is nothing, the best is that this guy has to pay you some money. Maybe it will get in the newspaper and people will feel lovely about it.

I have always heard that smaller cities are dangerous than bigger ones in Korea, too... if there aren't always people around, people get bolder.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


The Gay Bean posted:

I have always heard that smaller cities are dangerous than bigger ones in Korea, too... if there aren't always people around, people get bolder.

Haha it's Busan, it has five million people. You've been in Seoul too long.

Report it and always avoid it, if you get into a fight here you, honkey, are always going to be held responsible no matter who started it.

I had a guy shining a laser into my eyes out of a bus last night so maybe it was just rear end in a top hat Day in Gyeongsang.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Apparently the police in my little tiny town have been calling up the foreigners to tell them about the North Korea situation, and to see if they're leaving or not, then swinging by their apartments to do house-calls.

That's weird.

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
I didn't break anything except my glasses, I'm not gonna waste a lot of time whining to the police. I would be sort of amused to see CCTV of it though because it happened out of nothing, one second I'm walking past a dude and the next he's whaling on me like a maniac.

I'll probably be less dismissive of taekwondo now, I'm not very tall but he was really getting those kicks up there.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

There's cctv everywhere, it got me out of going to jail/getting deported that one time. If it's even a random street in a big city there's probably cctv.

So go for it, call up the cops because like, why not?

poly and open-minded
Nov 22, 2006

In BOD we trust

Dealing with the police blows in every country. If it's not a huge deal, I let these things slide. But perhaps you should start studying Rex kwando

TreFitty
Jan 18, 2003

gingersmurf posted:

Looks like I'm going to overnight in Busan on Sunday night, possibly Monday night too. A friend is visiting from the States and we are going to hit up the coffee expo at the COEX and then try out the KTX to Busan. Want to go for a ride on this Dutch-like ship too: http://www.tezroc-busan.com/main.html

Anybody want to get together, offer information on the ship, recommend places to stay - things to do - places to eat?
Wish I could. I don't know how rare it is to find a good coffee roaster, but there's one literally a one minute walk from my apartment door. I could bring a bunch of freshly roasted Guatemalan (my favorite) or other when I come visit next time if you want.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Yeah, if nothing else taekwando gets kids flexible. One of my students back in Gumi was fooling around and accidentally kicked me in the shoulder. I know it was an accident because the look he gave me after he made contact looked like his balls shot up into his collarbone. Biggest "Oh poo poo!" look I've ever seen on a student. I laughed and told him he was lucky I was in a good mood.

Maxsmart
May 24, 2008

Mexichat
My friend here does Taekwando and wins about 90% of his fights because he actually uses his hands too (very few Koreans seem to fight with their hands). So, if a guy keeps kicking you, close distance, punch him in the nose, and run.

Maxsmart
May 24, 2008

Mexichat
So the video for gentleman only confirms that this is probably a giant troll by Psy.

gingersmurf
Feb 21, 2007

I am Nigeria's bitch.

TreFitty posted:

Wish I could. I don't know how rare it is to find a good coffee roaster, but there's one literally a one minute walk from my apartment door. I could bring a bunch of freshly roasted Guatemalan (my favorite) or other when I come visit next time if you want.

Should hit up the coffee expo, really http://coffeexpo.info/. We've changed our plans because I'm too cheap to pay close to $350 for a one day trip to Busan. Instead, we'll go to the expo and then stay at the Ramada Dongdaemun for the night, hit up a bit of the fabric market and feast on Indian/Nepalese food and then take the bullet train to Cheonan/Asan just to say that we rode the bullet train.

Join us if you can!

tirinal
Feb 5, 2007
I work about 3 minutes away. Hit me up if you want more bodies for the coffee expo.

terivinix
Feb 15, 2012

MA-Horus posted:

Apparently the police in my little tiny town have been calling up the foreigners to tell them about the North Korea situation, and to see if they're leaving or not, then swinging by their apartments to do house-calls.

That's weird.

Seriously? I know some cowards have been fleeing, but it's hosed up the cops would have to do that. Is your small town at least somewhere strategic, like Yangju or Sokcho or something?

big boi
Jun 11, 2007

I don't live in Korea anymore, but here's a passage a desperate co-teacher just sent me. At first it strikes you as totally banal, until you realize how utterly confused this person's thinking is. Just try to figure out whether they're talking about different strategies or different times to use them, or both.

quote:

Imagine that you are lying on a bed in a dental clinic. If you were told " only two times more" versus " only ten times more," Wouldn't you use different mental strategies to try to cope? With either scenario, you would pull out the comforting thought of "only one more and then it's the last one" at different times; you would save your most distracting fantasy for a different point. Predictive information lets us know what internal coping strategy is likely to work best during a stressor. A simple example: you have some minor surgery. You are told that onthe first post-surgical day there is going to be a lot of pain, whereas by the second day, you will just feel a bit achy. Armed with that information, you are more likely to plan on watching distracting videos on the first day and to devote day two to writing poems.

This is used for college entrance exams.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Hahahahaha Yeongam-Eup, in the rear end in a top hat of Jeollanamdo.

Pascallion
Sep 15, 2003
Man, what the fuck, man?
What is acceptable dress in Seoul? How casual (t-shirts, jeans) can you be in most places/restaurants? How about nice-but-not-fancy restaurants?

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

MA-Horus posted:

Hahahahaha Yeongam-Eup, in the rear end in a top hat of Jeollanamdo.

Oh that's why, the cops are bored.

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

Dresscode anywhere but high class dining is fairly loose. Everyone tends to wear suits or collared shirts just because of work or school. Plus, if you're a dirty foreigner no one will expect much out of you anyway.

Bonus points if you dress like Psy everywhere you go.

tirinal
Feb 5, 2007

Pascallion posted:

What is acceptable dress in Seoul? How casual (t-shirts, jeans) can you be in most places/restaurants? How about nice-but-not-fancy restaurants?

Nobody really cares. Upscale dining is usually more about the prestige than the food, which means you're in suits anyway if you're trying to impress bosses/clients/girls. Beyond that, if you can pay you belong, so neither the restaurant nor the patrons are all that sensitive to dress.

More generally though, 'business casual' doesn't exist in Korea (for men). If it's not formal enough for a suit, do whatever.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Pascallion posted:

What is acceptable dress in Seoul? How casual (t-shirts, jeans) can you be in most places/restaurants? How about nice-but-not-fancy restaurants?

Wear this at all times.



Also don't go to fancy Korean restaurants. Find places with good reviews. Korean food is largely price independent, most of the truly fantastic Korean food I've ever had was at grimy little counters tucked inside markets or hole in the wall places down rapey looking alleys. Going to a fancy Korean restaurant is a ripoff 99% of the time. It's for showing off at work dinners. The food isn't any better.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer

Grand Fromage posted:


Also don't go to fancy Korean restaurants. Find places with good reviews. Korean food is largely price independent, most of the truly fantastic Korean food I've ever had was at grimy little counters tucked inside markets or hole in the wall places down rapey looking alleys. Going to a fancy Korean restaurant is a ripoff 99% of the time. It's for showing off at work dinners. The food isn't any better.

Oh God THIS. THIS!

I've never liked an expensive Korean meal. At best it's been the same as places that charge 20% and have an cranky ajjuma scowling at the customers as she cooks, at worst it's been outright terrible. Korean food reminds me a lot of Mexican in that regard. The worse a place looks, odds are, the better it will taste. This goes double for "chinese" in Korea.


Also, lol, that shirt would get you soooooooo murdered.

fantastic in plastic
Jun 15, 2007

The Socialist Workers Party's newspaper proved to be a tough sell to downtown businessmen.

Pascallion posted:

What is acceptable dress in Seoul? How casual (t-shirts, jeans) can you be in most places/restaurants? How about nice-but-not-fancy restaurants?

I think you'd look out of place in a t-shirt, but that's because I've only ever seen Korean children wearing them outside of a gym. A polo shirt would be fine almost anywhere if you want to show off your hairy western arms. I've never had any problems or felt weird wearing jeans.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
The most expensive meal I ever had here was at "Mad For Garlic" or whatever and it was pretty bad. The best meals I have usually are the 3000-4500 samgyupsal joints.

VVVVVV Mistake

Teikanmi fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Apr 14, 2013

E_P
Feb 22, 2003

All the KBBQ in daejeon is usually like 12000 for 500g, but usually I steer clear of the fattier meats and ask them for their leanest cuts.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Two words condensed into one.

Dino meat.

Dinomeat. The best all you can KBBQ. Unlike KBBQ in Toronto Dinomeat is actually loving awesome.

GZA Genius
Jan 29, 2009
New PSY single bangs. Have fun listening to it for the rest of the year! (Mildly sarcastic)

THE LUMMOX
Nov 29, 2004

MA-Horus posted:

Two words condensed into one.

Dino meat.

Dinomeat. The best all you can KBBQ. Unlike KBBQ in Toronto Dinomeat is actually loving awesome.

Dino meat blew my mind because it was like....nice inside and clean and sanitary and stuff. All the things I don't expect to find at a <20,000W meat buffet.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Self Bar in Hongdae and Sinchon aren't the ritz but they're good, the food is pretty decent 7,900 at lunch. There's also Mammoth (what up with the prehistoric names?) and that's a pretty good buffet. Also Self Bar has ice cream in the buffet, which is pretty cool, if you're a fatass.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

THE LUMMOX posted:

Dino meat blew my mind because it was like....nice inside and clean and sanitary and stuff. All the things I don't expect to find at a <20,000W meat buffet.

Agreed. And the cuts were drat fine as well, nice thick cuts of beef!

THE LUMMOX
Nov 29, 2004

Cameron posted:

Self Bar in Hongdae and Sinchon aren't the ritz but they're good, the food is pretty decent 7,900 at lunch. There's also Mammoth (what up with the prehistoric names?) and that's a pretty good buffet. Also Self Bar has ice cream in the buffet, which is pretty cool, if you're a fatass.

Someone said self bar is closed now. You been recently?

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
I did a thing.

Teikanmi
Dec 16, 2006

by R. Guyovich

THE LUMMOX posted:

Someone said self bar is closed now. You been recently?

It got remodeled, it's back now.

Spills the Moon
Aug 20, 2008
*CLOTHING TALK*

Does anyone buy clothes online? Where is the best place to get decent grown-up clothes for relatively okay shipping costs? I can find my size in Korea if I search hard enough, but unless it's from Itaewon the shoulders are always too narrow and the sleeves are too short. It seems to me that big sizes in Korea are always meant for short people with tiny shoulders and massive potbellies. I'm by no means a thin person but around the stomach is always the only place on big clothes here that fit me.

Are there any online retailers within Korea that cater towards apparent giants like me?

Spills the Moon fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Apr 15, 2013

nullscan
May 28, 2004

TO BE A BOSS YOU MUST HAVE HONOR! HONOR AND A PENIS!

If you come down to Osan AB (Songtan) there are a few clothing shops for meguks, or I can get you all the Tap-Out/MMA Gear you want from the BX.

Maxsmart
May 24, 2008

Mexichat
I may come up to Osan for shopping an such myself then. Still need to make up for me unlucky birthday/Thanksgiving day.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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We all of course remember my Credit Card Crusade of 2012 right? Well I was fumbling with Korean and English at the SK T-world office at TechnoMart trying to get my SK membership card (still unsure exactly what I did, but I got a card with SK Membership and OK CashBag). The lady also said there was a 10k fee for a Hana Bank SK Credit Card. Apparently I had to vehemently turn down the credit card. Not sure how I was going to get a credit card with Hana Bank without a deposit there or even an account of any kind. Who else has gotten their SK Membership Card, I'm switching to Olleh as soon as I can get out of this contract unless they bend over backwards for me.

Also, remember me talking about how awesome the Sadang-Suwon bus was? Well there are some other night buses coming out apparently. http://fabseoul.com/2013/04/10/seoul-to-begin-two-night-bus-routes/

joedevola
Sep 11, 2004

worst song, played on ugliest guitar
I was just gonna ask if anyone had experience getting a credit card with KEB.

I want to be able to buy Skype credit and the like, the charge card thing they gave me isn't a credit card of any description.

DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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joedevola posted:

I was just gonna ask if anyone had experience getting a credit card with KEB.

I want to be able to buy Skype credit and the like, the charge card thing they gave me isn't a credit card of any description.

What worked for me, and I found out the hard way, is to 1) find a bank that will deal with a foreigner instead of saying everything is impossible
2) If they speak English then great, if they don't, then call up the English line and have them be a translator
3) When they tell you you can't have a credit card because you don't make enough money, tell them that you will make a deposit account and use that option instead
3*) Remind them that, yes, such a thing does exist and no it is not impossible
4)Wait a little while for your credit card, then enjoy discounts like free movies and 5-20% off places and a transit chip you never have to recharge

You could also call a Samsung card rep and have them come out to meet you and if you do pretty much the same thing, insist that you will do a deposit instead of salary based card, you can get one that way as long as you have 6 months on your visa. Samsung is AmEx though IIRC.

Or do what others say and find a Korean gf and have them do it. Either way.

*I'll let you borrow my crusading hat if you promise to return it in honor.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es
Credit Cards - I've found Shinhan is rapidly becoming the best at dealing with dirty foreigners. I've had nothing but impeccable customer service dealing with them. It obviously helps if you first have an account with them. I changed banks because my old one refused to give me a credit card and Shinhan said they would. Tell whatever bank you're using that you're leaving if they don't give you a credit card. When I closed my account, the manager was on the phone desperately trying to get someone to agree to give me a credit card. Went basically next door to Shinhan and they set me up. Like was mentioned, though, if you don't make enough money you may have to get a charge account - depositing 500k won or whatever to get a line of credit.

Be aware, though, that all Korean credit cards are basically charge cards - they expect you to pay the full balance at the end of the month. Some merchants offer 3-6 month installment payments, but that's done through the merchant, not through the card (though it does show up on your bill as an installment and how many payments you have left).

Another benefit is that if you pay for everything with your card, you can get a good chunk of cash back when you file your taxes as it automatically categorizes what all you spent money on. It's simpler than using that cash tax card you can (allegedly) get from the government.

If you have any questions, I'll try to help you answer them as best I can.

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DontAskKant
Aug 13, 2011

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ladron posted:

Be aware, though, that all Korean credit cards are basically charge cards - they expect you to pay the full balance at the end of the month. Some merchants offer 3-6 month installment payments, but that's done through the merchant, not through the card (though it does show up on your bill as an installment and how many payments you have left).

Another benefit is that if you pay for everything with your card, you can get a good chunk of cash back when you file your taxes as it automatically categorizes what all you spent money on. It's simpler than using that cash tax card you can (allegedly) get from the government.

If you have any questions, I'll try to help you answer them as best I can.
SHINHAN! :argh:
It is also helpful to remember that this is Korea, so YMMV is something I always forget. I have waged many crusades against Shinhan, their customer service line is usually helpful if a bit clueless. I have realized that some of my problems with crazy Korea stuff is I'm treating Korea like home and I use certain financial and governmental tools when at home. Most of the Koreans I work with don't have a credit card or a tax card.

That tax card is something I'm still trying to figure out. I got one, with my lovely Korean and lots of persistence, but I don't exactly know what to do with it for tax season. I still haven't received any refund stuff or any tax mail at all and that should have happened when I was in Suwon. Is it something that your employer usually figures out? I guess with the tax card and the credit card and your wages, it's a mixture of the government, the bank, and your school all working together nice and peaceful like. I'm about to give up on my tax exemption, I qualify for it, but my school accepted the paperwork and refused to send it on AFAIK. Can't really break into the office and forge signatures, well I suppose I can, I just don't want to.

Second thought, I'll be needing that crusading hat back for tax stuff. I refuse to hire a tax attorney like the National Tax Service said.

The credit card is totally worth it though, 10-20k fee that pays for itself in a month if you don't get one with lovely benefits. The convenience of never having to fill up your t-money card is worth it alone. (Yes I know that technically you can do the same thing with a debit card since it has the chip, but I have never met a foreigner to succeed in doing that, and no amount of persistence over a year had made me any progress in it).

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