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zylche posted:
The only thing that could make it better would be comic sans.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 05:17 |
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Evil Fluffy posted:Bibi does not approve, Julie "This is a bomb."
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 06:30 |
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miscellaneous14 posted:How are they even going to be able to ship out units for retail if they can't even get the backer consoles out before then?
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 07:09 |
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DoctorStrangelove posted:"This is a bomb." Don't you mean this is a bong?
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 07:26 |
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Hatbox Ghost posted:The only thing that could make it better would be comic sans. You should've seen the chart for us $1337 early backers!
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 07:54 |
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I can't believe Uhrman was stupid enough to put the wrong title when that's clearly the console market share graph.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 07:56 |
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zylche posted:
By 25 May all early-backer OUYAs will be shipped. By 18 July, consoles will be available to purchase online. 24 August, retail presence. 12 September, OUYAs will arrive on doorsteps to the surprise of people who didn't order them. 8 October, every house will have two. 4 December, the sheer volume of OUYAs in the world makes them cheaper than bricks to build with. By early 2014, everything will be made of OUYAs. Everything is OUYAs. We will live in OUYA houses, drive OUYA cars on OUYA roads and eat powdered OUYAs with our metal teeth. Such is the pace of OUYA. We follow neither organic nor synthetic time, but OUYA time. Wir wissen die Zeit nicht von Uhren, aber Uhrman. God help us all. AveMachina fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Apr 13, 2013 |
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It's still looking like many of the units out there that didn't go into the hands bloggers have gone to people in California. Two people on the Reddit Ouya board who say theirs are on the way have wildly differing backer numbers (one 2000, one 32,000), but they are both in or near Compton. Are shipping costs between US states much higher than shipping within? Could they be so short on cash they're just sending what hardware they have already to the backers who are closest to their office?
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 09:59 |
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Jr. posted:By 25 May all early-backer OUYAs will be shipped. By 18 July, consoles will be available to purchase online. 24 August, retail presence. 12 September, OUYAs will arrive on doorsteps to the surprise of people who didn't order them. 8 October, every house will have two. 4 December, the sheer volume of OUYAs in the world makes them cheaper than bricks to build with. By early 2014, everything will be made of OUYAs. Everything is OUYAs. We will live in OUYA houses, drive OUYA cars on OUYA roads and eat powdered OUYAs with our metal teeth. At first they came for the backers and I said nothing, for i did not kickstart.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 10:10 |
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THIS SUMMER From the marketing team that brought you the Ouya Comes a graph that goes up and then up even faster. Julie Uhrman and the angry 66,000 kickstarter backers star in Point Break 2: The Breaking Point This film has not been rated. Critics will receive their copy of the reviewable film after a George Lucas-esque remastering in 6 years. Madcosby fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Apr 13, 2013 |
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O Hanraha-hanrahan posted:Are shipping costs between US states much higher than shipping within? Could they be so short on cash they're just sending what hardware they have already to the backers who are closest to their office? Almost never. Once you are in the continental 48 states, it's pretty much the same price to ship anywhere. Cost tends to be more related to weight and speed. Next day shipping can get crazy expensive.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 11:28 |
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Well if they're trying to get it out ASAP and they based in that area, that might be why. I don't live in the US, but I do handle the shipping of export containers to the US from Australia, and the west coast is about $2000 (cost's $3,000 WC, $5,000 EC) USD cheaper per 20' container, and we ship approx 15-20 20' containers a week to the US, so we have some decent volume to keep those rates down. Even though I doubt they're shipping container loads, it gives an idea of the difference in shipping from China to each coast and I imagine it would be a similar story for airfreights.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 12:03 |
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Even if air freight cost about the same to ship to both Boston and Los Angeles, it's still cheaper and faster to ship a whole bunch to one specific airport than to spread them throughout the US randomly, and easier to sort by location as well. Going by backer number just seems like a foolish idea in the numbers they need to ship, and that claim was probably made without talking to the shipping company.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 12:43 |
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In the grand scheme of things domestic logistics should be nothing but a trivial cost. That's what makes the localised distribution weird. It shouldn't be a hassle, or significant cost, for them to send out units based on backer number, the fact that they aren't is weird and possibly a sign of things to come. EDIT: When I talked about WC/EC in my previous post, I was comparing LAX to Philly. LAX is a a giant hub and the rates to LAX are the cheapest East Coast rates we get for both sea and air freight. Just FYI. Rudager fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Apr 13, 2013 |
# ? Apr 13, 2013 13:09 |
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Most Posts/Day in the Games subforum
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 14:55 |
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Is there any proof that they have made agreements with retailers to have this on store shelves? Julie said back in February that they were going to be in Best Buy and Gamestop, as well as Amazon...but that was the same time she said backers would have theirs in March. Have the stores themselves confirmed anything? Can't see it going down well in the UK at least, even if they had enough units for retail who the hell would carry it other than Amazon? Our high streets are hosed right now, and aside from the big out of town stores, the places like Game and HMV that would normally sell consoles aren't likely to be taking those kinds of risks when they're all having to be rescued from bankruptcy.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 15:07 |
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I have no idea about other retailers but I do remember one or two ads for it on Amazon a few months ago.
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teh_Broseph fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Apr 13, 2013 |
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That's not a OUYA graph, sir. His feet are literally not on the ground.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 16:39 |
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I made a chart too.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 17:01 |
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O Hanraha-hanrahan posted:Can't see it going down well in the UK at least, even if they had enough units for retail who the hell would carry it other than Amazon? Our high streets are hosed right now, and aside from the big out of town stores, the places like Game and HMV that would normally sell consoles aren't likely to be taking those kinds of risks when they're all having to be rescued from bankruptcy. GAME's selling it online at least, so there's every chance they'll have them in shops too.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 17:20 |
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 17:43 |
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1st Stage Midboss posted:GAME's selling it online at least, so there's every chance they'll have them in shops too. $99 "console" = £99 "console". Great. It's even worse value in the UK.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 17:44 |
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Rudager posted:Well if they're trying to get it out ASAP and they based in that area, that might be why. The problem isn't getting them from Ouya to whoever, it's getting from the factory to Ouya. From Twitter: juhrman posted:@TeeJaxOff @playouya Why? The content is great and the units are shipping. We wanted to ship as we made them vs. stockpile and ship This is despite the fact they already knew how many backer Ouyas (and limited editions/controllers/etc.) to make.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 18:10 |
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SoupyTwist posted:The problem isn't getting them from Ouya to whoever, it's getting from the factory to Ouya. From Twitter: It's probably cheaper to package and ship individually from China; I doubt they even have a distribution center in the US and labor is insanely cheap in Asia. That said, the smart thing to do would have been to stockpile at the packaging facility and ship the backers in one go. If they're shipping off the line... Well they're not making deadlines.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 18:25 |
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Holy poo poo, I love this thread. I showed this thread to my roommate that donated to the kickstarter, we're not on speaking terms right now.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 18:28 |
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There hasn't been much news to write about ever since Ouya saved the world. However, I came in to work and found this in the mail bin.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uvPLOWs0No Credit goes to whoever brought up the idea earlier in the thread!
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 18:36 |
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So as we expected, they're just sending them off the line as they make them, and they probably just sent off one test run and haven't started yet. They'd be way better off just being honest about a couple weeks delay. This looks awfully shady, and backers are starting to feel it. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Apr 13, 2013 |
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Zaphod42 posted:They'd be way better off just being honest about a couple week's delay. This looks awfully shady, and backers are starting to feel it. Like, I just don't get this poo poo. It's Public Relations 101. By and large Kickstarter has proven that if people like your product enough to buy it as a theoretical, they'll be understanding of a reasonable level of human cock-ups. Just get out slightly ahead of it and throw some contrition down and it's gonna be fine. I know the Reaper Bones kickstarter ran into a few hiccups, but they immediately got in front of it and said "Hey dudes, we're gonna make good but this is what's up" and by and large people were like "Okay yeah we're all human, it's cool." On the scale of Kickstarter things a 2-3 week delay would cause some grumbling, but once you get all condescending graphs and cover-up corporate speak about managing the message, people will rightly be annoyed that you're abusing the goodwill that got them to invest capital in your product without asking for any return besides the product itself. It's dumb, yo.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 18:45 |
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bagina posted:Almost never. Once you are in the continental 48 states, it's pretty much the same price to ship anywhere. Cost tends to be more related to weight and speed. Next day shipping can get crazy expensive. This is only true for flat rate shipping. Every single other type costs more based on distance and weight. Then again, I suppose OUYA would just jam them all into the "If it fits it ships!" boxes and call it a day. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Apr 13, 2013 |
# ? Apr 13, 2013 19:30 |
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Diametunim posted:Holy poo poo, I love this thread. I showed this thread to my roommate that donated to the kickstarter, we're not on speaking terms right now. This person isn't good with money and shouldn't be responsible for half the rent.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 19:42 |
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Liquid Penguins posted:This person isn't good with money and shouldn't be responsible for half the rent. Oh please, I'm sure you've burned $100 on something you won't get back.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 20:27 |
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Diametunim posted:Holy poo poo, I love this thread. I showed this thread to my roommate that donated to the kickstarter, we're not on speaking terms right now.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 20:28 |
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Oh please, I'm sure you've burned $100 on something you won't get back. Literally burning 100$ would have been a better idea than supporting the OUYAGE as at least the flaming bill would be a source of heat.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 20:39 |
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Meat Recital posted:Literally burning 100$ would have been a better idea than supporting the OUYAGE as at least the flaming bill would be a source of heat. Yeah but so will the Ouya.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 20:41 |
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Oh please, I'm sure you've burned $100 on something you won't get back. We should have this poo poo on a bingo card at this point.
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# ? Apr 13, 2013 20:44 |
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Inspector_71 posted:This is only true for flat rate shipping. Every single other type costs more based on distance and weight.
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bagina posted:This is true, and I have gone back and edited the original post to correct my error. Maybe I wasn't communicating clearly enough. I've since gone back and done at least 3 to 4 hours of research and the various shipping practices that are employed in the United States and related territories. I do have an extensive background in internet based research. My company sells shipping. I thought we were discussing shipping as it relates to sending versus shipping as it relates to receiving. Please help me elucidate my arguments in terms of package management. Jeeeeeeeeez you could at least apologise as well mister!
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