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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:

CitizenKain posted:

I don't get much political talk on FB, but a old friend of mine works for the state and shared this.


The actual letter is here: http://mtstreetfighter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Letter.pdf

It is jaw dropping that someone would send out this letter, and worse that the person is a state representative.

What the hell. Poe's law has just been smashed. Nothing is real.

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Stefan Prodan
Jan 7, 2002

I deeply respect you as a human being... Some day I'm gonna make you *Mrs* Buck Turgidson!


Grimey Drawer
So, I didn't see this on snopes or in this thread (apologies if it is, it's a huge thread), but my dad just shared this on FB:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4572236395101&set=o.446423412037272&type=1&ref=nf



New Yorker magazine 1996Here is a picture of the Obamas
On the table next to Obama is a voodoo-santeria demon Idol.
Right above his head is a lithograph of the devil.To the left is some Indonesian false deitys.. Above Michelle is some masonic


Obama’s stage at the 2008 Democratic convention was designed in the style of the Pergamon Altar, a Greek Temple, which is mentioned in the book of Revelation as the “Seat of Satan” or the “Throne of Satan,” depending on the translation. The biblical reference is not just to the altar, but to Pergamos as a center of the all powerful Roman state as well as a regional center of pagan worship and persecution of the early

(it cuts off)

Stefan Prodan fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Apr 13, 2013

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Scary ethnic people have scary ethnic art!

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

Who gives a poo poo if a family wants to have 19 kids? I guess liberals? I mean, I consider myself pretty drat liberal and I don't give a poo poo what they do. Sure, I think it's crazy but I don't hate them for it or anything.

How do you afford having 19 kids?

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

myron cope posted:

Who gives a poo poo if a family wants to have 19 kids? [...] How do you afford having 19 kids?

Your second question answers your first. While the Duggars apparently are self-sufficient, it's a common dogwhistle to say that people have "too many kids" because they receive welfare and "can't afford" the children.

prahanormal
Mar 8, 2011

heya /

myron cope posted:

Who gives a poo poo if a family wants to have 19 kids? I guess liberals? I mean, I consider myself pretty drat liberal and I don't give a poo poo what they do. Sure, I think it's crazy but I don't hate them for it or anything.

How do you afford having 19 kids?

By being mind blowingly rich.

I've never heard of anyone who hated the Palins for anything other then their lovely politics.

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!
Not only that, but the Duggars are directly responsible for the death of at least one of their babies, you'd thing the pro-life people would stop telling them to have kids at some point.

Sir Rolo
Oct 16, 2012
Yeah, it only starts being a concern when the quality of life for the children starts being affected. With the Duggar family getting a multi-season TLC series dedicated to them, chances are they're rich enough to afford care.

U.T. Raptor
May 11, 2010

Are you a pack of imbeciles!?

Interlude posted:

No need to Godwin. Registration has led to actual confiscation in NYC, and has been floated in several states since Newtown. As Canada has shown it's useless for any other purpose.
You know what other dangerous objects are mandatory to register? Cars.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
Just got a good one. I googled quotes within specific date ranges and on archive.org trying to find the origin and it was of course a freeper fantasy.
Bergoglio makes mincemeat of journalist (socialism = evil)

quote:

Sadly, the link has been yanked.
...Noticed in under 30 minutes from the thread being post and without anyone actually seeing it. :rolleyes: "Never existed" and "yanked" are pretty interchangeable.

Even the freepers caught on to it being too ridiculous to be real, but I guess I need to hold my relatives to a lower standard.

Sir Rolo
Oct 16, 2012
http://www.dioceseofsalford.org.uk/diocesan-news/70-latest-news/4005-bergoglio-makes-mincemeat-of-journalist

is a 404,

and then:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/d...m-of-communism/

But it's always fun to pretend to have arguments with people you don't agree with where they're wrong and you're right.

Mornacale
Dec 19, 2007

n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

myron cope posted:

Who gives a poo poo if a family wants to have 19 kids? I guess liberals? I mean, I consider myself pretty drat liberal and I don't give a poo poo what they do. Sure, I think it's crazy but I don't hate them for it or anything.

How do you afford having 19 kids?

People give a poo poo about the Duggars because their Quiverfull ideology is part of the lunatic fringe of evil Christian thought. They're outspokenly misogynist, homeschool all their children in order to brainwash them most effectively, and essentially run their family as a tiny cult with the father at the top. The mother--and eventually the daughters--is regarded as little more than a baby factory, with the explicit aim of out-reproducing members of other religions. Meanwhile, despite already being well-off, they have their house built for them by the Discovery Channel.

The Duggars are basically just the Phelps but with better PR.

Walter
Jul 3, 2003

We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.

ratbert90 posted:

I was banned from Steve Stockmans official facebook page. :smith:

Ditto.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Mornacale posted:

People give a poo poo about the Duggars because their Quiverfull ideology is part of the lunatic fringe of evil Christian thought. They're outspokenly misogynist, homeschool all their children in order to brainwash them most effectively, and essentially run their family as a tiny cult with the father at the top. The mother--and eventually the daughters--is regarded as little more than a baby factory, with the explicit aim of out-reproducing members of other religions. Meanwhile, despite already being well-off, they have their house built for them by the Discovery Channel.

The Duggars are basically just the Phelps but with better PR.
None of this really matters. This is a false equivalency because nobody (of note?) is proposing to have preemptively denied them the ability to marry, while their movement wants to keep denying same-sex couples that ability.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Sir Rolo posted:



Uh... feminism bad, I guess.

loving liberals, they're why Annette Funicello disappeared from the public eye!

Multiple sclewhatsis?

Guilty
May 3, 2003
Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity

myron cope posted:

Who gives a poo poo if a family wants to have 19 kids? I guess liberals? I mean, I consider myself pretty drat liberal and I don't give a poo poo what they do. Sure, I think it's crazy but I don't hate them for it or anything.

I gave a huge poo poo when octo-mom went through with the birth, planned on having MORE babies in spite of being unemployed and living with her grand parents, refused adoption, and used her kids to start begging for handouts...

Interlude
Jan 24, 2001

Guns are basically hand fedoras.

U.T. Raptor posted:

You know what other dangerous objects are mandatory to register? Cars.
Careful. Most pro-gun types would be happy to see guns as easy to buy and sell, and subject to as little restrictions, as cars.

jackofarcades
Sep 2, 2011

Okay, I'll admit it took me a bit to get into it... But I think I kinda love this!! I'm Spider-Man!! I'm actually Spider-Man!! HA!

Interlude posted:

No need to Godwin. Registration has led to actual confiscation in NYC, and has been floated in several states since Newtown. As Canada has shown it's useless for any other purpose.

Edit: Do people really hate the Duggers for having a lot of kids? I just hate seeing them on the news every other week.

Have Feinstein, Biden, or Obama proposed gun registration?

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe

Interlude posted:

Careful. Most pro-gun types would be happy to see guns as easy to buy and sell, and subject to as little restrictions, as cars.

You mean requiring government issued license with regularly renewed proficiency requirements to use one and more difficult licensing/proficiency levels for the more dangerous and harder to use ones, registering all units with the government and tracing all sales/transactions between owners, and having a dedicated police force to check for minor usage/safety infractions?

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

zeroprime posted:

regularly renewed proficiency requirements

What?

Driving is a privelege, guns are a right.

(Meanwhile, driving is a daily necessity and guns are not.)

De Nomolos
Jan 17, 2007

TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine
Some asshat who claims to be a "conservative former Democrat turned Independent" has started trolling a friend of mine. He's already dropped some clear racism and revealed that he was the campaign director for a local City Council candidate who loved to say the word friend of the family. He is a HUGE Rand Paul fan. Of course, this is the South, so "former conservative Democrat" means "they left me when they stopped backing all white males!" One friend of mine keeps arguing with him (but that friend has Asperger's or something, so what can you do?).

He posted this and captioned it "PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S WORST NIGHTMARE"


Is there a reason why it's black people? This guy's...not someone to post half-naked black people.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

De Nomolos posted:

Some asshat who claims to be a "conservative former Democrat turned Independent" has started trolling a friend of mine. He's already dropped some clear racism and revealed that he was the campaign director for a local City Council candidate who loved to say the word friend of the family. He is a HUGE Rand Paul fan. Of course, this is the South, so "former conservative Democrat" means "they left me when they stopped backing all white males!" One friend of mine keeps arguing with him (but that friend has Asperger's or something, so what can you do?).

He posted this and captioned it "PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S WORST NIGHTMARE"


Is there a reason why it's black people? This guy's...not someone to post half-naked black people.

I assume they think Planned Parenthood want abortions for everyone and especially if you are a minority

De Nomolos
Jan 17, 2007

TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine

bobkatt013 posted:

I assume they think Planned Parenthood want abortions for everyone and especially if you are a minority

Because PP would want fewer people who would vote for their preferred candidates? I mean, these same people think black people will vote Democrat for the handouts.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Planned parenthood's goal is to abort all the black babies because Margaret Sanger was a racist eugenecist.

Black people are secret conservatives. Get them to start opposing liberals on abortion and it'll be easy for them to vote for conservatives, because that's really the natural position for them.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Black women have abortions more often than white women.

This is intentional on the part of liberals (the real racists), who are secretly trying to use welfare and easy access to abortion to exterminate black people. They also like to bring up Margaret Sanger being racist and a eugenicist.

Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Apr 14, 2013

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




De Nomolos posted:

Some asshat who claims to be a "conservative former Democrat turned Independent" has started trolling a friend of mine. He's already dropped some clear racism and revealed that he was the campaign director for a local City Council candidate who loved to say the word friend of the family. He is a HUGE Rand Paul fan. Of course, this is the South, so "former conservative Democrat" means "they left me when they stopped backing all white males!" One friend of mine keeps arguing with him (but that friend has Asperger's or something, so what can you do?).

He posted this and captioned it "PLANNED PARENTHOOD'S WORST NIGHTMARE"


Is there a reason why it's black people? This guy's...not someone to post half-naked black people.

Margaret Sanger was supposedly a racist and a eugenicist. Her Wikipedia page of course says her views were actually rather nuanced and not necessarily motivated by hate as much as ignorance and largely reflect mainstream views of her time, but a lot of ring-wing pundits have tried to spin her views to make her look like She-Hitler.

Edit: Beaten.

Walter
Jul 3, 2003

We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.

ProperGanderPusher posted:

She-Hitler.

Edit: Beaten.

Shitler?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Stefan Prodan posted:

To the left is some Indonesian false deitys.. Above Michelle is some masonic



Haha no they're not. Indonesia is Islam now but they used to be majority Hindu. Those figures are from a shadow puppet performance that was used as a morality tale and is still often used today. They aren't dieties at all, just mythological princes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayang

I mean I guess to whoever wrote this Hinduism would be false idols but not dieties. They're Muslim there's only one diety.

De Nomolos
Jan 17, 2007

TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine

VideoTapir posted:

Planned parenthood's goal is to abort all the black babies because Margaret Sanger was a racist eugenecist.

Black people are secret conservatives. Get them to start opposing liberals on abortion and it'll be easy for them to vote for conservatives, because that's really the natural position for them.

It's worked so well the past 50 years since the Voting Rights Act! I'm sure they'll finally awaken to the fact that DEMONcrats abort all the black babies some day.

Because conservatives apparently assume black people are stupid and don't know/comprehend this.

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007
I'd always heard that green skies mean there's a tornado. So when my aunt posted about the green skies during a storm, I looked it up before I responded. The page I found said that while it's not associated with tornadoes, it is associated with thunderstorms in general and offered some possible reasons why. What then followed was everyone studiously ignoring science in favor of folklore.



I just don't get it. It's not like I was posting Snopes or Media Matters or saying "That's not true!" and being contrarian. I posted it before anyone even mentioned tornadoes, and the actual link gave some really interesting information. I'm used to people ignoring information in an argument because it hurts their ego, or ignoring information because they're not interested in the subject.

But to ignore information and then try to invent your own explanations?

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


XyloJW posted:

I'd always heard that green skies mean there's a tornado. So when my aunt posted about the green skies during a storm, I looked it up before I responded. The page I found said that while it's not associated with tornadoes, it is associated with thunderstorms in general and offered some possible reasons why. What then followed was everyone studiously ignoring science in favor of folklore.



I just don't get it. It's not like I was posting Snopes or Media Matters or saying "That's not true!" and being contrarian. I posted it before anyone even mentioned tornadoes, and the actual link gave some really interesting information. I'm used to people ignoring information in an argument because it hurts their ego, or ignoring information because they're not interested in the subject.

But to ignore information and then try to invent your own explanations?

Green skies mean severe wind weather at the very least. In 1999 the sky turned green over northern Minnesota, an area which basically never gets tornadoes. A day later and a lot of the Boundary Waters area was flattened. Apparently there was never a tornado, just severe wind.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/07/01/bwca_blowdown_anniversary

Also, your friends would do well to just google "green sky" or something:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-if-sky-is-green-run-for-cover-tornado-is-coming

TURN IT OFF!
Dec 26, 2012

OneThousandMonkeys posted:

Green skies mean severe wind weather at the very least. In 1999 the sky turned green over northern Minnesota, an area which basically never gets tornadoes. A day later and a lot of the Boundary Waters area was flattened. Apparently there was never a tornado, just severe wind.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/07/01/bwca_blowdown_anniversary

Also, your friends would do well to just google "green sky" or something:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-if-sky-is-green-run-for-cover-tornado-is-coming

That Scientific American article is literally the same article as the one in the screen shot, so I don't think that's the problem.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


TURN IT OFF! posted:

That Scientific American article is literally the same article as the one in the screen shot, so I don't think that's the problem.

Whoops! I guess they TL;DR'd it.

KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.

XyloJW posted:

I'd always heard that green skies mean there's a tornado. So when my aunt posted about the green skies during a storm, I looked it up before I responded. The page I found said that while it's not associated with tornadoes, it is associated with thunderstorms in general and offered some possible reasons why. What then followed was everyone studiously ignoring science in favor of folklore.



I just don't get it. It's not like I was posting Snopes or Media Matters or saying "That's not true!" and being contrarian. I posted it before anyone even mentioned tornadoes, and the actual link gave some really interesting information. I'm used to people ignoring information in an argument because it hurts their ego, or ignoring information because they're not interested in the subject.

But to ignore information and then try to invent your own explanations?

As a chem major this happens to me all the time. A family member or friend will ask about why something changes color or solidifies and I'll try to explain it in the simplest way possible, but they just stop listening once you say something like "molecules" or "double bonds". A good example is when a friend asked me why bleach doesn't get out blood stains and I got about one sentence in before they were like "Whoa, okay, I don't actually care THAT much."

All I said was "Blood has iron in it and bleach can't effect that." :sigh:

Not only do people want the easiest explanation in the simplest possible language, but if it goes too far beyond what they already know they seem to reject it on principle.

Sir Rolo
Oct 16, 2012


Water, fire, air and dirt
loving magnets, how do they work?
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y'all motherfuckers lying, and getting me pissed

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
This is actually important when it comes to political communication. It's important to use "basic level" concepts instead of superordinate level concepts.

A basic-level concept can be seen, touched, smelled or heard. If you had some crayons you could probably draw a basic-level concept, or if not, you could act it out in charades.

Applied to environmentalism, it's ineffective to talk about ozone, atmosphere, or global climate. On the other hand, water, fire, air and dirt are all basic-level concepts that anyone can relate to and understand. People understand when you say that it's important to fight pollution because it puts chemicals into the air that we breathe which makes us sick.

Interlude
Jan 24, 2001

Guns are basically hand fedoras.

zeroprime posted:

You mean requiring government issued license with regularly renewed proficiency requirements to use one and more difficult licensing/proficiency levels for the more dangerous and harder to use ones, registering all units with the government and tracing all sales/transactions between owners, and having a dedicated police force to check for minor usage/safety infractions?
Driver's licenses are dead easy to get, and once you have one, you have it for life so long as you can pass a vision test and don't drive around drunk (and get caught multiple times doing so). They give the licenses to anyone, even murderous felons. Anyway, you keep your car even if you lose the license, you can buy any kind of vehicle including ones that go four times the legal speed limit, you don't actually need a license or insurance so long as you don't drive it in public, and anyone can buy and sell cars without a license of any kind.

Do you still like the analogy? Frankly I don't think it works well for either side of the argument.

jackofarcades posted:

Have Feinstein, Biden, or Obama proposed gun registration?
Feinstein has said publicly that she would take all guns if she could, skipping registration entirely. Obama and Biden aren't that dumb, but Cuomo and others are.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008
I thought the evidence that people have against registration was California having a registry on long guns and after a few years decided that SKS's were illegal and the registration made it easy to find people who owned them. The problem is that depending on which side of the debate you're on, that it was good or it was bad.

EDIT: D&D really needs another gun control thread, half-assed posting in this and the cartoons thread is pretty bad.

BJA
Apr 11, 2006

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now

dms666 posted:

SHEEPLE DRINK MORE KOOL-AID YOU SHEEP

Heh I was banned or whatever from posting because I corrected someone. It was a picture of Obama with his feet on the Oval Office desk and the person said something about getting his drat feet off the desk where Lincoln fought for the rights of slaves and gave him his freedom. I only corrected him that desk wasn't that old and only in the Oval office since Kennedy.

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XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

LP97S posted:

I thought the evidence that people have against registration was California having a registry on long guns and after a few years decided that SKS's were illegal and the registration made it easy to find people who owned them. The problem is that depending on which side of the debate you're on, that it was good or it was bad.

EDIT: D&D really needs another gun control thread, half-assed posting in this and the cartoons thread is pretty bad.

I agree it's a problem, but gun control threads aren't the answer--we've tried that before and it had no statistical effect on lovely posting, since people just found a way to get around the thread.

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