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I really want to make the world's best cruising car. It consists of a -suitable Panther-bodied donor car, column-shift (with plush interior) with a detuned 3.4L v8 from the 1999 Taurus SHO. Smooth, slow, and safe. I'm basically attempting to make something that's part-Volvo (good) and part-DeVille (smooth). Any other ideas?
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Apr 14, 2013 22:02
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Town car with the 2.72 Rear end, why bother with the difficulty of adapting a rare FWD engine into a car that's already pretty well sorted.
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Apr 14, 2013 22:05
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Not to mention the SHO V8 makes the same horsepower as the 4.6 but 50lb-ft less torque. You would end up spending a ton of money to put in a weaker engine that is harder to source parts for. Completely pointless. It would also more than likely get worse MPG than the stock engine. I'm all for batshit engine swaps but this one just isn't making sense no matter how I look at it. If you're looking for an engine that is "smoother" and makes about the same power as the 4.6, you could look into the Jaguar AJ-V8 which came in everything from the Lincoln LS/Jaguar S-Type to the Aston Martin V8 Vantage (though in a much higher state of tune, obviously). It's already designed for FR layout and everything. Terrible Robot fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Apr 14, 2013 |
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Apr 14, 2013 22:11
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Comedy "smooth" option would be the 300ci inline 6
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Apr 14, 2013 22:21
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What about a Cologne V6 as a smaller engine for a panther, didn't older Explorers have both them and Windsors as an option for a while?
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Apr 14, 2013 22:21
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bennyfactor posted:What about a Cologne V6 as a smaller engine for a panther, didn't older Explorers have both them and Windsors as an option for a while? Dear god, you need a good hit to the head. If your going to adapt an engine, at least go with the 4.6 32 valve. If you do a 5.4L engine, you may have hood clearance issues.
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Apr 14, 2013 22:28
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sports posted:I really want to make the world's best cruising car. What 14" said. Putting an SHO motor in a Panther is a hilariously bad idea. A stock Panther is already the world's best cruising car  Holdbrooks posted:You guys are no help, I about to pick one out and put down a deposit. There are 8 to pick from. How much? If it's a good deal jump on that poo poo.
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Apr 14, 2013 22:32
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Better idea. 4.56 rear end, and a fat wad of cash for gas and tires. Please critique my life ambitions.
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Apr 14, 2013 22:59
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Add a supercharger/tune and you're golden.
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Apr 14, 2013 23:08
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Of course I cant find it now but when I was searching for diff options for mine I saw a place selling an almost 7:1 ring and pinion for the Vic 
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Apr 14, 2013 23:12
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sports posted:I really want to make the world's best cruising car. Falcon Turbo Six
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Apr 14, 2013 23:49
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You Am I posted:Falcon Turbo Six If we're just making up poo poo then a Jaguar v-12.
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Apr 15, 2013 01:30
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If you want a slow Panther, just keep the stock 4.6 in it. Look how much money I just saved you.
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Apr 15, 2013 01:37
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Good thinking out loud session, boys. Yep, stock Panther, especially a Grand Marquis with the airbag suspension, is really really smooth.
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Apr 15, 2013 02:16
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Bunch of enablers... Stack so fat it won't fit in my wallet. And I'm driving a former Californa highway patrol 2008 p71 To work tonight.
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Apr 15, 2013 02:55
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Sweet, don't forget to post pics. So what are you using the car for? Don't you have an Abarth and a WRX already too besides the truck? Be careful, because once you drive it on the interstate you'll never want to drive those cars on the highway again 
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Apr 15, 2013 03:03
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Holdbrooks posted:Bunch of enablers... Do your neighbors hate you now?
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Apr 15, 2013 03:13
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Holdbrooks posted:Bunch of enablers... My buddy has a '97 Sedan DeVille with the NorthStar, and Grandmother keeps her savings in a wad of cash under the accelerator. So smooth.
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Apr 15, 2013 03:17
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Jus had to get my glasses out of the trunk. The car was running and it's still on corn from the CHP. Flex fuel bitches.
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Apr 15, 2013 03:23
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:Of course I cant find it now but when I was searching for diff options for mine I saw a place selling an almost 7:1 ring and pinion for the Vic Yup, the Ford 8.8 is well regarded offroad and is used in everything from explorers to CVs to the smaller fullsize Ford trucks, so deep gears sell. I know people running 38+ inch sticky offroad rock comp tires on them, with a diff lock, a doubler, and a healthy 302, and they haven't blown the axle up yet. AFAIK his only upgrades were an armored cover, chromo shafts, and a housing truss. I can't help but wonder what a CV with 6.14 gears would feel like. Probably snap your neck launching, but then top out at 35mph 
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Apr 15, 2013 04:03
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kastein posted:I can't help but wonder what a CV with 6.14 gears would feel like. Probably snap your neck launching, but then top out at 35mph A P71 speedo is calibrated to 140mph. Not sure if it can reach that speed, but it's calibrated!
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Apr 15, 2013 04:14
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BrokenKnucklez posted:If you do a 5.4L engine, you may have hood clearance issues. It's been done. And yes, it has a K&N filter sticking out of the hood like an A-6 Intruder's refueling probe. kimbo305 posted:A P71 speedo is calibrated to 140mph. Not sure if it can reach that speed, but it's calibrated! On the other hand you can probably talk your way out of a minor speeding ticket by asking the cop what all that glue residue and random holes in the dash were for.
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Apr 15, 2013 05:43
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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I feel it was a good pretty good deal at $3800. I got it from a guy that supplies municipal cars for basically all tv an movies. So this car is 1 of 10 background cars fresh off the set of a Denzel Washington movie that was filmed in NM. New paint, new firehawk GT cop tires on the newer 17in steelies, and everything works like they should locks, handles, power seat, and all lights and electronics. It has the newer dash with the tachometer and hours display. 2008 model with 157k and 3,300 hours on the clock so average speed 47.5 mph like a good highway car witout a shitload of idling. Last title was issued to the CHP and still had 1/4 tank of e85 in it from them. Somehow I forget to have Ickna take an engine bay shot, but it is fully detailed and honestly looks brand new.     Only dent I could find was on the back passenger door at the bottom and I have a set fresh painted front door trim, factory dome/map light an coat hooks in the massive trunk. Holdbrooks fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 06:38
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Goddamn you just about stole that car. Love the black and black steelies. Edit: Panther question: Do all of these cars have super boosted power steering? A girlfriend in high school drove a Crown Vic and when I drove it I was amazed at how it felt that I could turn the wheel by blowing on it. Previa_fun fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 06:48
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My steerings firmish but linear. Could be because its the old steering box design? Also 8.8" question, I noticed in the LS1 Colorado thread about how he pulled an 8.8 out of an Explorer with a 3.73 rear LSD, is that something that I could gut for cheap parts rather than spend the cost for a brand new unit? I know it takes some effort to set up a rear diff, I meant more for aquiring the unit itself. Shitload of Explorers in the local yards. drat that's a nice P71. E: other panther question, why'd they stop doing the front door strips after a certain year? It always reminds me of mk3 VWs missing a chunk of trim. INCHI DICKARI fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 08:29
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Lotta Panthers starting to pile up in here! This is my '11 LX...bought it last November with 15k on the clock. I plan on upgrading to true dual exhaust, posi rear end with slightly higher gears, a tune, and the K&N intake. The intake makes the 4.6L growl like crazy under acceleration. 
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Apr 15, 2013 09:26
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Just out of interest, why didn't Ford put the 5.4lt V8 into the Crown Vic? Ford used the 5.4lt fairly successfully in the smaller Falcon, just seems strange they stuck with the smaller V8 in the big Vic.
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Apr 15, 2013 09:54
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14 INCH DETECTIVE posted:My steerings firmish but linear. Could be because its the old steering box design? Yes, it should be. I know nothing about 8.8 setup specifics, but with a decent set of setup tools you should be able to do it. If you've ever done a bearing job on anything with an 8.8 in it at work, you've done everything except possibly the fiddly bit, measuring all the shims and checking the patterns and such.
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Apr 15, 2013 13:57
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You Am I posted:Just out of interest, why didn't Ford put the 5.4lt V8 into the Crown Vic? Ford used the 5.4lt fairly successfully in the smaller Falcon, just seems strange they stuck with the smaller V8 in the big Vic. To be honest, this was a platform that was at the end of its cycle and Ford has known that for some time. But it was proven and well developed with any issues well sorted. And considering that this car was about 90% fleet sales, 9% old people, and a very tiny sliver at less than 1% of overall sales were enthusiast, it makes sense not to mess with it. I think the Marauder sales were pretty dismal, and that was a car that was pretty heavily promoted by several car magazines and so forth.
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Apr 15, 2013 15:15
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BrokenKnucklez posted:I think the Marauder sales were pretty dismal, and that was a car that was pretty heavily promoted by several car magazines and so forth. drat shame, too, despite it's problems (most of which I recall could be fixed with a lower rear end) Edit: I should really look things up before I just post. Seems the Marauder already had the 3.55 rear end. I just remembered a lot of reports of the car being sluggish off the line and maybe people wanted it to be something it wasn't, I don't know.  When the Marauder was launched my dad came home with a promotional DVD and was considering picking one up but didn't. I know where I get my car ADD from. Previa_fun fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 15:19
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Previa_fun posted:drat shame, too, despite it's problems (most of which I recall could be fixed with a lower rear end) Edit: I should really look things up before I just post. Seems the Marauder already had the 3.55 rear end. I just remembered a lot of reports of the car being sluggish off the line and maybe people wanted it to be something it wasn't, I don't know. Even with the extra 60 some hp, its still a heavy pig. 3.55's are nothing to sneeze at, but you have to keep the car fairly street drivable for the mouth breathers of the world, plus if they put 3.7x's or higher, the fuel economy would drop by a good 2-3 mpg's easily. It was good concept about 15 years before its time. But it still was a fairly pricy sedan for its time when there were better options out there. Trust me, its a sweet car, but it was to dated for 2003.
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Apr 15, 2013 15:33
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I snapped a quick pic of the bay when I got home Now my question is for the tag do I go the lol cop route or blues brothers? I do basically look like jake.
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Apr 15, 2013 16:29
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How many letters per plate in your state? What non-letter characters are allowed?
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Apr 15, 2013 16:32
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Good lord that car is clean as hell. I really miss my Marquis and you're making me second guess my goal of driving late 90's Civics for the next 10 years.
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Apr 15, 2013 16:38
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Splizwarf posted:How many letters per plate in your state? What non-letter characters are allowed? https://servicearizona.com/webapp/vehicle/plates/personalizedChoiceSearch.do ones that are available that I came up with before I left work in order of perceived shittieness: BLUESBR BLUESMB JAKEBLS COP SHX COP SHOC COP SHOK COP C4R BST EM CHRYTOP ROADBLK EX FUZZ BLU N 2 Holdbrooks fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 16:53
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Voting BLUESBR
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Apr 15, 2013 16:55
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"440CUI" Yeah, I know it isn't, but that's your fault for not getting a 1974 Dodge Monaco If you want to go full-on Blues Brothers nerd, get "BDR 529". KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 15, 2013 |
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Apr 15, 2013 17:05
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NOT A COP
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Apr 15, 2013 17:16
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Too bad it's only 7, or you could have FIVE WHOA or WOOP WOOP. I guess you could do "5 WHOA."
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