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Trizophenie posted:Thanks to the wonders of modern magic (aka Lunar Magic), this is what happens to Yoshi if you bring him into a Ghost House/Castle, so far I haven't found enemy sprites that get changed though. You forgot to show what happens when Yoshi and a Podobo are on screen at the same time.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:"Whoops we accidently put our enemy into the same address space Yoshi occupies, guess we have to cut him from castles!" sounds a bit stupid, don't you think? It doesn't have to be like that. It could have been a conscious decision from the start to not include him in Ghost Houses for the purpose of freeing up address space. If you look at some of the detailed docs sheets that Nintendo made, they consciously planned out every graphic down to the page it would appear on. Things like the coin sprite in Mario 1 also containing the code routine to update your score or the ghost using the same base sprite as the bubble aren't things that just happen. Real limitations in old systems meant you needed to meticulously calculate everything.
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Apr 13, 2013 19:54
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Suspicious Dish posted:It doesn't have to be like that. It could have been a conscious decision from the start to not include him in Ghost Houses for the purpose of freeing up address space. If you look at some of the detailed docs sheets that Nintendo made, they consciously planned out every graphic down to the page it would appear on. Right, that's what I meant with my first comment, before the part you quoted. The pseudo-quote there was tounge in cheek regarding what other people were posting.
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Apr 13, 2013 19:57
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Ometeotl posted:You forgot to show what happens when Yoshi and a Podobo are on screen at the same time.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBX7mC4702Y
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Apr 13, 2013 20:00
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... .... Jesus christ this is gonna turn into The Wall isn't it?
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Apr 13, 2013 20:50
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You could actually see the Yoshi ghost effect on the sunken ship level at the end of world six, where you get to bring Yoshi through and the entire second part has boos fading in and out. He actually faded out in sync with them, it looked really weird. Those castle effects though were something you would never see without editing.
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Apr 14, 2013 02:45
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As a kid, I always assumed Yoshi couldn't go into the castles and ghost houses because the developers wanted those levels to be harder. 
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Apr 14, 2013 03:11
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Rocketlex posted:As a kid, I always assumed Yoshi couldn't go into the castles and ghost houses because the developers wanted those levels to be harder. You were a boring and unimaginative child That's the reason I thought of too 
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Apr 14, 2013 03:12
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I like how the high pitched DUN DUN starts right as Yoshi's head turns into the podoboo.
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Apr 14, 2013 03:21
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asymmetrical posted:You sure about that? Some of their level designs make me wonder. Some of the Star Road levels in NSMB U make it very clear to me that Nintendo's level designers have been watching these sadistic romhackers... and learning.
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Apr 14, 2013 07:20
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KevinCow posted:Some of the Star Road levels in NSMB U make it very clear to me that Nintendo's level designers have been watching these sadistic romhackers... and learning. You may not be that far off. Apparently, Nintendo likes to use the New Super Mario series to train their new recruits. New designers tend to start out their career at Nintendo designing levels for New Super Mario Bros. games. Do well enough at that and you might get advanced to more demanding design positions. It actually makes the New Super Mario Bros. games kinda cute when you view them in that light.
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Apr 14, 2013 07:31
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Whichever guy designed the level for NSMB Wii with the Boner Dragon totally got promoted, right?
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Suspicious Dish posted:It doesn't have to be like that. It could have been a conscious decision from the start to not include him in Ghost Houses for the purpose of freeing up address space. Early in the development of the game there were "no yoshis allowed" signs which would be placed at the beginning of various stages, not just castles or ghost houses. They would prevent you from either bringing any yoshi along or just a specific color of yoshi. The restriction was then changed to just castles and ghost houses and the signs were removed entirely because they no longer had any use. A castle/ghost house entrance with this big red sign would look kinda silly. 
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Apr 14, 2013 10:40
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You say that as if they weren't already.
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It's kind of hilarious that as a kid I wouldn't have questioned that at all, but as an adult I'd start asking questions like: "Why the hell am I listening to this sign? Who put this sign here? What does Yoshi's world have against him?" I think at some point I may have lost all the wonder in my life 
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UmbreonMessiah posted:It's kind of hilarious that as a kid I wouldn't have questioned that at all, but as an adult I'd start asking questions like: "Why the hell am I listening to this sign? Who put this sign here? What does Yoshi's world have against him?"
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Apr 14, 2013 15:56
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Yoshis need not apply
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Ropnolc posted:Early in the development of the game there were "no yoshis allowed" signs which would be placed at the beginning of various stages, not just castles or ghost houses. That's a lunar magic creation, not a built-in, I thought.
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Apr 14, 2013 18:17
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ikanreed posted:That's a lunar magic creation, not a built-in, I thought. You can find it in the normal game if you screw around with gamegenie codes and enter spaces with no level id. it sends you to a test level that has one.
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UmbreonMessiah posted:It's kind of hilarious that as a kid I wouldn't have questioned that at all, but as an adult I'd start asking questions like: "Why the hell am I listening to this sign? Who put this sign here? What does Yoshi's world have against him?" Haven't you played the DKC games? If Yoshi crosses that threshold, he'll explode and turn into an item! That would be awful. ...Unless it's a particularly useful item. Hmm.
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  Part XVII - Supermassive Galaxy / Sweet Mystery Galaxy / Flipsville Galaxy Baldurdash / YouTube (guests: thevoiceofdog & TurboC)  Soundtrack - Supermassive Galaxy theme - Sweet Mystery Galaxy theme - Flipsville Galaxy theme
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Doing Sweet Mystery without Yoshi, eh? Well, I'm afraid that's quite impossible, Mr. Betus. I can't even seem to cross the first gap without that forsaken dinosaur. I could theoretically do the galaxy without using the Bulb Berry, but that'd hardly be impressive to anyone who's seen my other challenges, I imagine. I do have a few things in mind for some of the other galaxies in World 4, though, so there's that.
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Apr 15, 2013 18:29
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ArgonMatrix the thread had such high hopes for you. 
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The coins were massive originally, but the MassiveCoin (tm) bubble burst and they shrank accordingly. I'm holding onto my MassiveCoins though - I'm a true believer and we need to end the Mushroom Kindgom's fiat currency that lets them just mint them any time there's a deficit. Maybe if we cut government spending (do the people really need another bonus area, Peach?) we wouldn't need to rely on question blocks that people - who don't work hard for society - are able to just jump into. Freakin' social parasites. Why don't you learn how to throw hammers like the rest of us? edit: Also society is not ready for electric karts.
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Yoshi really is an allegory for the state devouring the everyman with its taxes and regulations.
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Big Trouble in Wiggler China
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slowbeef posted:The coins were massive originally, but the MassiveCoin (tm) bubble burst and they shrank accordingly. I'm holding onto my MassiveCoins though - I'm a true believer and we need to end the Mushroom Kindgom's fiat currency that lets them just mint them any time there's a deficit. Maybe if we cut government spending (do the people really need another bonus area, Peach?) we wouldn't need to rely on question blocks that people - who don't work hard for society - are able to just jump into. Freakin' social parasites. Why don't you learn how to throw hammers like the rest of us? But why invest in coins when star bits have real, intrinsic value? The economy was much more stable when the value of a gold coin was tied to its worth in star bits, and the market for them just keeps going up!
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Also, there was a single massive coin right at the beginning of the level. You needed to walljump up it, it was rad.
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Supermassive Galaxy is also the level where lives become meaningless.
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If Diabetus runs out of face puns to start videos with, is he just gonna have to do the rest of the game in one really long video?
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Zuzie posted:Supermassive Galaxy is also the level where lives become meaningless. Oh yeah! Diabeetus, will you show this off?
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KevinCow posted:If Diabetus runs out of face puns to start videos with, is he just gonna have to do the rest of the game in one really long video?
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:Dude came up with a Clinton joke for Xenogears. He's not going to run out. If that's the case, then I hope there's a bonus video at the end that consists entirely of betus telling beef all the puns he didn't get to use.
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KevinCow posted:If that's the case, then I hope there's a bonus video at the end that consists entirely of betus telling beef all the puns he didn't get to use. It will be over an hour, get some popcorn. You act like there's a finite supply in effect here.
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KevinCow posted:If Diabetus runs out of face puns to start videos with, is he just gonna have to do the rest of the game in one really long video? ...I'm sorry.
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Wow that was the best intro yet, and for the I also REALLY love Flipsville Galaxy for some reason, I was seriously into this one for the adorable suburban house design 
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I'm not sure I understood that last galaxy. Do platforms exist when Yoshi isn't illuminating them?
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ThatPazuzu posted:I'm not sure I understood that last galaxy. Do platforms exist when Yoshi isn't illuminating them? It's the same as that earlier Ghost House galaxy. The invisible platforms do not exist unless Yoshi has eaten a Bulb Berry. If you let the Bulb Berry's effect expire and you're standing on one of the invisible platforms, you'll just fall to your doom the moment it runs out.
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ThatPazuzu posted:I'm not sure I understood that last galaxy. Do platforms exist when Yoshi isn't illuminating them? Nope! If it's invisible without the Bulb Berry, it's intangible without the Bulb Berry!
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Am I the only one sad that Diabetus didn't come up with a new way to replace "Space" with "Face" this time?  Sweet Mystery Galaxy actually made me hungry. I think there's something to be said about a Mario game making me hungry, but I can't put my finger on it...
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