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Booky posted:When does that line show up, because I might actually buy this game (and a 3DS). Really early. It appears as soon as you go to the casino and get the spiel about what to do in it.
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Strange Quark posted:Really early. It appears as soon as you go to the casino and get the spiel about what to do in it. Is the casino still hard to get rewards from, like in Persona 2? Also for people playing it: So far, how's the game?
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Booky posted:Is the casino still hard to get rewards from, like in Persona 2? One of the reasons I got a 3DS was for this game, for whatever reason (the first trailer stood out to me) and I'm not disappointed at all. I even got the good old "Nintendo Neck" I used to get when I was a kid.. Oh boy TurnipFritter posted:Use commands that correspond to their type. Super useful. Thanks, I'm gonna keep this in mind. My one demon guy loves going apeshit and hurting himself since he has a dumb personality. This game is pretty funny in its own little way.
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Cromlech posted:How do you make your demons more loyal? I try getting these guys drunk but the bar still goes down. Use commands that correspond to their type. Kind demons want to use Guard or healing spells. I'm pretty sure that kaja spells and status recovery can also work, but the status recovery spells will only increase loyalty if they're actually curing a status. Wild demons want to use physical attacks or HP-based extra skills. Dumb demons want to use the Go command. Sly demons want to use magic or bad status spells. Calm demons are... hard to read. For Sly and Calm types, it's generally easier to use the sake that alters their personality to "Kind" and just have them Guard til their loyalty is maxed out. Once a demon's loyalty is maxed out, it's pretty much guaranteed to follow whatever order you give it, so you should always focus on raising their loyalty first before really "using" them.
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Also the people who are saying that Nemissa wrecks poo poo weren't lying. Even this early in she's a god damned powerhouse and she only has one offensive spell.
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How do I actually get money in this game? I been fighting in dungeons for like and hour and I still only have 600 yen. I should have known something was up when they gave me $10000 at the start.
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DrManiac posted:How do I actually get money in this game? I been fighting in dungeons for like and hour and I still only have 600 yen. I should have known something was up when they gave me $10000 at the start. Go to the OES at the shopping center and sell MAG. It's pretty unintuitive.
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DrManiac posted:How do I actually get money in this game? I been fighting in dungeons for like and hour and I still only have 600 yen. I should have known something was up when they gave me $10000 at the start. It depends. One important thing to remember early on: If you have a demon in your party and talk to the same type of demon, they'll give you items, free heals and big heaping helpings of cash. So try to keep regularly occuring demons in your party even if you don't use them as you'll get a lot more resources that way.
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DrManiac posted:How do I actually get money in this game? I been fighting in dungeons for like and hour and I still only have 600 yen. I should have known something was up when they gave me $10000 at the start. Another option is to grind Magnetite, then go to the Energy Exchange Club (or whatever) in the Shibashama (sorry im bad at these japanese names) Core after you meet Victor. You can get 100 yen per 10 magnetite there, and I found myself rolling in money while still having a lot of Magnetite left after the first big dungeon. Beaten, drat you informative SMT thread people!
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So in P4G I just beat Ameno-sagiri which I assume is the last boss of the normal ending - should I go for the true ending with this save file or start again with New Game + to do it? Leaning towards the latter because I made a lot of mistakes in this run because it's my first SMT game. Also - what is recommended to play after P4G? I have the first of the P2 duology and P3P. I'm thinking about trying out Persona 2 because it's different from P4G (as opposed to P3P which looks pretty similar). Would like feedback from people who know more about the series than me, though! Wanting to get Soul Hackers too but that will probably have to wait.
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TurnipFritter posted:Calm demons are... hard to read. For Sly and Calm types, it's generally easier to use the sake that alters their personality to "Kind" and just have them Guard til their loyalty is maxed out. Kind? Hell I always gave them the sake that makes them want to kill poo poo and have them attack instead.  Also don't sneeze at giving your demons gifts, especially the good ones. You'll get a LOT of gems and stuff over the course of the game. (Sly demons generally don't go up at all without gifts which sucks)
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raito posted:So in P4G I just beat Ameno-sagiri which I assume is the last boss of the normal ending - should I go for the true ending with this save file or start again with New Game + to do it? Leaning towards the latter because I made a lot of mistakes in this run because it's my first SMT game. Nah, gently caress that. Do it this run. There is no good reason to wait for NG+.
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I wish the battles in Soul Hackers didn't go by so fast, even on slow. I never feel like I'm in control of the fight. Is there any way I can stop a demon from performing an action mid-round, because I can imagine that I'll get screwed over by not healing a round, and then find out that I should heal before the round ends. Also, according to the Love shack or whatever, Mary is my super-kawaii wiafu desu ne. I can live with that. Snix fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 17, 2013 |
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Strange Quark posted:"Believe in the heart of the cards" is great. I can't hate this writing. From an NPC on the world map on the way to the second dungeon: "This is the worst kind of discrimination, the kind against me!" 
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Any way I can gimp myself with skill points in Soul Hackers? Do I need to min/max poo poo? I've been just kind of throwing things around at random but only at level 12 right now.
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nachos posted:Any way I can gimp myself with skill points in Soul Hackers? Do I need to min/max poo poo? I've been just kind of throwing things around at random but only at level 12 right now. If you do something stupid and put all the hero's points into Ma and Lu, yeah, you will have problems. You don't need to min/max, but it will be preferable to play to each character's strengths. Make sure your hero can hit things hard and has HP, make sure Nemissa has MP to burn.
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Apr 17, 2013 03:38
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Ma doesn't do anything other than raise a character's magical attack, right? What does Lu do, generally?
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It's luck. It lowers your chances of getting aliments in battle and stuff like that.
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So is it just the main character that it isn't worth raising magic on? I'm mainly curious what to do with Nemissa, but I'll take any advice on the other characters as well.
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Artix posted:So is it just the main character that it isn't worth raising magic on? I'm mainly curious what to do with Nemissa, but I'll take any advice on the other characters as well. Give Nemissa magic. Give her all the magic. Laugh as she does insane amounts of damage to everything in her path.
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Artix posted:So is it just the main character that it isn't worth raising magic on? I'm mainly curious what to do with Nemissa, but I'll take any advice on the other characters as well. Yeah, main characters in SMT typically don't learn any magic, so putting points into magic is pretty useless for him.
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Nemissa seems to be your walking magical nuke, while your MC is better with physical stuff. I've heard that he's best off with a good gun, although I wanna see how well he does as a speedy item-bot like the MC from Strange Journey tends to end up as.
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Everyone should make sure they turn on the Alignment Hack because it will make your life much less tedious.
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But it's a smt game - expect brutality!
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flyboi posted:But it's a smt game - expect brutality! Honestly I thought it was one of the easier ones, especially for its time.
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Man y'all don't know just how amazing it is to have a Compendium. It's so great to be able to hop over to the Goumaden, fuse some stuff and
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Mannn I really don't want to buy Soul Hackers but this thread is making me want to. I need to get EO4 and SMT4 and if I get Soul Hackers too I'll probably be completely burnt out on first person 3DS RPGs.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Mannn I really don't want to buy Soul Hackers but this thread is making me want to. I need to get EO4 and SMT4 and if I get Soul Hackers too I'll probably be completely burnt out on first person 3DS RPGs. But isn't SMT4 going to play a lot like a Persona 3 or 4, world map-wise? Wouldn't that count as a relief from the first person fights? 
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I think what I like most about Soul Hackers and the earlier Persona games is how weirdly intermixed the crazy stuff is with regular life. Like you have this weird sea captain giving you a gun computer so that you can talk to a bunch of weirdos each running their own black market operations. Or in the case of Persona you rewrite reality so that restaurants sell weapons, casinos sell magical cards that let you summon monsters from your brain and the Illuminati is trying to destroy the world. It's a very surreal setting which I don't think gets used very much anymore.
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You can tell that this game came out in 1997 originally - the idea of Paradigm X would have been a lot more intriguing before we were exposed to things like Second Life. Fun so far, though I can't tell if my lack of success recruiting so far has been luck or a function of low MC intelligence. Love the built in fusion search though.
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Except the later Persona games are much better at the whole urban fantasy shtick, partly because the group doesn't immediatly ditch the rest of their lives when the game start? Despite their good plot, that'd be one thing that's lazily done in P2: No one seems to object to the protagonists running around with weapons in broad daylight, and it's like time doesn't really pass and they don't have any obligations such as work, school or family.
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Iceclaw posted:Except the later Persona games are much better at the whole urban fantasy shtick, partly because the group doesn't immediatly ditch the rest of their lives when the game start? Despite their good plot, that'd be one thing that's lazily done in P2: No one seems to object to the protagonists running around with weapons in broad daylight, and it's like time doesn't really pass and they don't have any obligations such as work, school or family. That's kind of what I mean. P3 and P4 feel more realistic in that you have to manage your actual life. The others you have this clash where you are running around town with very little restrictions and people are talking to you about the absolutely crazy stuff going on, some of which really aren't that concerned. With the Midnight Channel and the Dark Hour most people are not really exposed to the full insanity so it's mostly a secret your party is in on. There was a charm to the weirdness that you don't get as much anymore. This isn't a knock against the newer games in the series; just that Soul Hackers reminds me off what I personally used to find compelling about the older installments. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 13:04 on Apr 17, 2013 |
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I had the wonderful experience of Fusion Loss on my second fusion to get an Agami in Soul Hackers. It was a 5% loss chance. I have a feeling me and this game are going to have a lovely relationship.
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Any reason to hang onto the pixie you get near the start?
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So, uh, is there a certain time when I can expand the number of demons I can have at once? 6 demons is still a really low cap. Especially when you're deploying most of them at once.
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nachos posted:4 hours in and I just now realize you consume MAG with each step in a dungeon Isn't that only if you have demons summoned?
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ChaosArgate posted:So, uh, is there a certain time when I can expand the number of demons I can have at once? 6 demons is still a really low cap. Especially when you're deploying most of them at once. You'll eventually double that or so.
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