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Herr Tog posted:tl:dr List of great cinema please? I'm dumb. Take a look at the IMDB Top 250 and the AFI 100 Years 100 Movies lists. The IMDB list is generated by user votes so—while it doesn't mirror critical reception in a lot of instances—it covers a lot of pop culture. The AFI list has a lot of overlap but it's more critically and historically minded.
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Herr Tog posted:I am terrible at movies and don't get many references my friends and colleges make. For instance I didn't know the "Sharks Vs. The Jets" thing was movie based I thought it was in regard to people who don't care about sports and don't know that those two teams on a national level are in two different sports and not a movie. I still haven't seen that movie. I'm a 20 something and didn't go to the movies much growing up. So anything around the 70's-90's is lost on me. For example I am going to see Jurassic park 3d, not because I love the movie but because I have never seen it in theaters and I haven't been to see a movie in a long time and this seems like a safe loving bet. So if someone has time and wishes to help some better appreciate the art of film making please make a list or point me to one so I may start down this journey. CHOICE COD posted:Take a look at the IMDB Top 250 and the AFI 100 Years 100 Movies lists. The IMDB list is generated by user votes so—while it doesn't mirror critical reception in a lot of instances—it covers a lot of pop culture. The AFI list has a lot of overlap but it's more critically and historically minded. That's a decent suggestion, but the main thing is just to watch a lot of movies. One thing I've noticed about friends who don't know a lot about movies is that they just re-watch the same movies over and over again. Find a director or a writer or a cinematographer that you like and explore them. Hell, you have favorite movies don't you? Unless your favorite films were made in the 1910s they were inspired by other films, and that's always the best place to start with expanding your horizons. Go to the Recommend me thread and throw out some favorites, I bet we can point you in an engaging direction. Or look through the various "beast films" lists and pick ten that sound intriguing and post them in the Shameful thread. Or just watch poo poo at random from the stickyed Ultimate recommendation thread, all the posts have screenshots and descriptions of why someone thought ti was great to begin with. Basically, just watch a lot of different poo poo, and accept that you won't like everything.
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Apr 15, 2013 09:08
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I'm going to second the Shame thread, it's a great way to work through the classics and generally broaden your horizons (apparently starting with West Side Story).
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Apr 15, 2013 09:19
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Herr Tog posted:I am terrible at movies and don't get many references my friends and colleges make. For instance I didn't know the "Sharks Vs. The Jets" thing was movie based I thought it was in regard to people who don't care about sports and don't know that those two teams on a national level are in two different sports and not a movie. I still haven't seen that movie. I'm a 20 something and didn't go to the movies much growing up. So anything around the 70's-90's is lost on me. For example I am going to see Jurassic park 3d, not because I love the movie but because I have never seen it in theaters and I haven't been to see a movie in a long time and this seems like a safe loving bet. So if someone has time and wishes to help some better appreciate the art of film making please make a list or point me to one so I may start down this journey. I mean that's such a broad question, there are lots of amazing movies out there and while there may be a "canon" everything's subjective really. The imdb top 250 is a solid list if you're looking for movies that are popularly considered great. I'd recommend making a profile at Criticker and ranking movies that you've seen and liked/disliked if you want recommendations tailor made for you. I personally get a lot out of the charts at Flickchart as well (you can set it to show "Greatest Movies of the 70s" or 80s/90s since you said you missed a lot of movies from that time period) though I don't think many other goons use it seriously. As for the "craft" or film-making I'd recommend listening to more director/crew commentaries, just find the DVD for some movies you know you like and listen to them. There are also lots of introductory books about the art of the film Film Art by David Bordwell is an accessible and solid one, if a little dry - it's the standard introductory textbook in a lot of film courses.
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Apr 15, 2013 11:43
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Herr Tog posted:I am terrible at movies and don't get many references my friends and colleges make. For instance I didn't know the "Sharks Vs. The Jets" thing was movie based I thought it was in regard to people who don't care about sports and don't know that those two teams on a national level are in two different sports and not a movie. I still haven't seen that movie. I'm a 20 something and didn't go to the movies much growing up. So anything around the 70's-90's is lost on me. For example I am going to see Jurassic park 3d, not because I love the movie but because I have never seen it in theaters and I haven't been to see a movie in a long time and this seems like a safe loving bet. So if someone has time and wishes to help some better appreciate the art of film making please make a list or point me to one so I may start down this journey. http://theyshootpictures.com/gf1000.htm
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Unmature posted:Why do I love how movies in the mid-late 90s looked so much? Something about the colors and the overall visual texture of movies has never been as pleasing to me as it was then. I'm watching Scream right now and it's gorgeous. A friend of mine who's a professional editor said filmstock was in a renaissance then, but could someone go more in-depth about what's changed since then? It could be because the whites were more white then instead of everything being tinted one color or another. The Matrix might have started a trend with that. And 2000 is around when they started doing that digitally.
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Apr 15, 2013 17:42
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CHOICE COD posted:Take a look at the IMDB Top 250 and the AFI 100 Years 100 Movies lists. The IMDB list is generated by user votes so—while it doesn't mirror critical reception in a lot of instances—it covers a lot of pop culture. The AFI list has a lot of overlap but it's more critically and historically minded. Thanks! I'll refer to this afi list when making trips to the video rental store. Magic Hate Ball posted:I'm going to second the Shame thread, it's a great way to work through the classics and generally broaden your horizons (apparently starting with West Side Story). The shame thread seems a good place to start, West Side Story sounds even better. BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:I mean that's such a broad question, there are lots of amazing movies out there and while there may be a "canon" everything's subjective really. The imdb top 250 is a solid list if you're looking for movies that are popularly considered great. I'd recommend making a profile at Criticker and ranking movies that you've seen and liked/disliked if you want recommendations tailor made for you. I personally get a lot out of the charts at Flickchart as well (you can set it to show "Greatest Movies of the 70s" or 80s/90s since you said you missed a lot of movies from that time period) though I don't think many other goons use it seriously. I...I actually do like really old movies. Kurosawa, especially based on Shakespeare, and 1986 Transformers for nostalgia and the very thing that got me into animation. I think this video commentary idea is a great one. Thank you.
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Apr 15, 2013 19:09
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Schweinhund posted:It could be because the whites were more white then instead of everything being tinted one color or another. The Matrix might have started a trend with that. And 2000 is around when they started doing that digitally. I don't think of the late 90s as being gorgeous movie central, but I do miss when white things could just be white (not in a racist way ok). I think you're right in singling out The Matrix; I think that movie along with Mann's The Insider and Soderbergh's Out Of Sight were ground zero for the trend. Atom Egoyan's The Sweet Hereafter was released on Blu-Ray a last year, and the color grade was changed so that the whites in the movie were all blue. The snow is blue! Here's a comparison of the DVD and BD versions:     It's not a Do The Right Thing level fuckup, but I think it's still an uncool thing to do to an older movie in my opinion.
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Apr 16, 2013 00:55
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Lists like this one always make me wonder when movie critics and historians are going to start looking at film from South America and Africa. There are 8 selections on this list from South America and six of them are from Brazil. Which suggests that no film from Chile or Peru or Colombia has been as good as Donnie Darko.
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Apr 16, 2013 02:05
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live with fruit posted:Lists like this one always make me wonder when movie critics and historians are going to start looking at film from South America and Africa. Mark Cousins' The Story of Film: An Odyssey does a really great job of covering the whole world of film. I learned a lot of fascinating things about African and South American cinema I hadn't seen covered anywhere else.
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Apr 16, 2013 02:11
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On their list of the top 250 movies from the 21st century, they have Nostalgia for the Light, which was directed by a Chilean and is about the Chilean Atacama Desert, listed as a French film.
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Apr 16, 2013 02:33
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live with fruit posted:Lists like this one always make me wonder when movie critics and historians are going to start looking at film from South America and Africa. By contrast Africa really gets the shaft. It's incredibly hard to get ahold of African cinema, there's very little promotion of it even within Africa from what I can tell and if you asked most people what they know about African film you'll either get a blank stare or some comment about those terrible Nigerian Video films shot in a day. It's really sad because there are some really wonderful films from the continent, and very diverse ones.
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Apr 16, 2013 03:02
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DNS posted:It's not a Do The Right Thing level fuckup, but I think it's still an uncool thing to do to an older movie in my opinion. Can you elaborate on this, please?
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Apr 16, 2013 18:40
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WHEEZY KISS A DUDE posted:Can you elaborate on this, please? They removed the orange hue that's over everything - now it has that natural look, but of course the orange hue's supposed to be there, because otherwise the "hottest day in Bed-Stuy" feeling just disappears and a whole lot of people seem to be complaining about what looks like a 74 degree day. And they don't seem interested in fixing it.
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Apr 16, 2013 18:57
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The Cameo posted:They removed the orange hue that's over everything - now it has that natural look, but of course the orange hue's supposed to be there, because otherwise the "hottest day in Bed-Stuy" feeling just disappears and a whole lot of people seem to be complaining about what looks like a 74 degree day. Does this apply to the Criterion version?
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Apr 16, 2013 19:01
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The Cameo posted:They removed the orange hue that's over everything - now it has that natural look, but of course the orange hue's supposed to be there, because otherwise the "hottest day in Bed-Stuy" feeling just disappears and a whole lot of people seem to be complaining about what looks like a 74 degree day. Son of a bitch are you serious? That is dumb
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Apr 16, 2013 19:01
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Parachute posted:Does this apply to the Criterion version? Nope! Criterion DVD is still the best version available.
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Apr 16, 2013 19:07
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Parachute posted:Does this apply to the Criterion version? Criterion's not put out a Blu for it yet. This is only on the Blu-ray, I should have mentioned that. I want to say even the original Universal DVD still has the orange hue. But, yeah, it's pretty hosed.
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Apr 16, 2013 19:08
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In this same vein, my roommate purchased Django Unchained on bluray at midnight last night and we started watching it. Everything is blue, and it's really noticeable in some scenes. I am really disappointed in Blueray as a format that is supposed to be higher quality, but seems like it's trading color correction for resolution. edit: for added clarification: I saw Django twice in theaters and did not notice the blue tint. It is especially noticeable in the canyon camping scenes. If anyone else has watched the bluray of Django Unchained, please tell me I'm not crazy... Snak fucked around with this message at 19:20 on Apr 16, 2013 |
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Apr 16, 2013 19:13
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The Cameo posted:Criterion's not put out a Blu for it yet.  What is even the thought process behind doing this? Did they think the orange hue had been put in by accident?Are they going to re-release The Matrix with the green/blue tints corrected out?
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Apr 16, 2013 19:14
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penismightier posted:Nope! Criterion DVD is still the best version available. Thank god, I was just looking at those screen captures and the orange does so much for that movie.
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Apr 16, 2013 19:15
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Mechafunkzilla posted:
O Brother Where Art Thou? is now going to be full of bright vibrant greens. This whole thing kind of reeks of executives getting the right to release movies on Blu-ray and telling some intern to "clean it up"/fix the color balance, without having watched the movies.
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Apr 16, 2013 19:32
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Lets not forget that the Blu of Do The Right Thing is fully approved by Lee and his DP so I doubt it'll ever get fixed.
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Apr 16, 2013 19:34
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Snak posted:I am really disappointed in Blueray as a format that is supposed to be higher quality, but seems like it's trading color correction for resolution. What? It has nothing to do with format, and everything to do with some overzealous mastering dickwad who thinks they know better than the director how a film "should" look.
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Apr 16, 2013 20:07
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Mechafunkzilla posted:
Actually... Those were added for the DVD http://www.dvdactive.com/editorial/articles/the-matrix-visual-comparison.html
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Apr 16, 2013 22:33
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Snak posted:In this same vein, my roommate purchased Django Unchained on bluray at midnight last night and we started watching it. Everything is blue, and it's really noticeable in some scenes. I am really disappointed in Blueray as a format that is supposed to be higher quality, but seems like it's trading color correction for resolution.
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Apr 16, 2013 22:35
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:What? It has nothing to do with format, and everything to do with some overzealous mastering dickwad who thinks they know better than the director how a film "should" look. Sorry, I should have been more clear. It's obviously not the format itself, but the products available in the format. fenix down posted:Sure it's not the TV set to "Cool" hue? TV was set to "standard" which has a tint level of 0. It still could be the tv, which is why I asked if anyone else had the bluray and could confirm it.
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Apr 17, 2013 03:16
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CzarChasm posted:O Brother Where Art Thou? is now going to be full of bright vibrant greens. Interesting for you to bring that up... http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare10/o_brother_where_art_thou_.htm 
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Apr 17, 2013 03:39
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Are they going to re-release The Matrix with the green/blue tints corrected out? I'd actually like to see that, heh. The green filter kind of annoyed me. Now I'm trying to envision the blu-ray of Domino where they remove all that crazy post coloring and grain they added to distract you from what a train wreck that movie was.
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Apr 17, 2013 03:39
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Toebone posted:Interesting for you to bring that up... Oh my god, do people doing this not have eyes?
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Apr 17, 2013 03:51
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So I've been hearing about Alfonso Cuaron's "Gravity"... It sounds cool and I definitely want to see it, but is this an adaptation of Ray Bradbury's "Kaleidoscope"? I figured people would be clamoring to adapt his stories after his death, but if it's not an actual adaptation it seems like the Bradbury estate would have a major case for them ripping off the idea.
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sticklefifer posted:So I've been hearing about Alfonso Cuaron's "Gravity"... I don't know if it is an adaptation, but I'm pretty sure it's been in production since a fairly long time before Bradbury's passing.
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Apr 17, 2013 07:21
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Any good movies about or set during the Korean War that treat it seriously? Other than MASH.
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cheerfullydrab posted:Any good movies about or set during the Korean War that treat it seriously?
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Apr 17, 2013 11:00
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I was using the word "seriously" as a totemic caution against such films as the classic/cliche Vietnam movie "The Green Berets". I wasn't sure if there were any of that sort about Korea, but it didn't hurt to be careful.
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edit: Damnit, I did it again.
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Apr 17, 2013 14:07
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The Cameo posted:Criterion's not put out a Blu for it yet. Is the Amazon instant version of Do The Right Thing messed up too? I've been meaning to watch it for a while and that seems like the easiest way to watch it.
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cheerfullydrab posted:I was using the word "seriously" as a totemic caution against such films as the classic/cliche Vietnam movie "The Green Berets". I wasn't sure if there were any of that sort about Korea, but it didn't hurt to be careful. War Hunt, Time Limit, Men in War, The Steel Helmet, Fixed Bayonets!, and The Manchurian Candidate are all exceptional. The Hunters is okay, the flying sequences in it are amazing. SubG posted:You mean `seriously' like Fuller's war-is-hell The Steel Helmet (1951), serious like war adventure films like The Bridges at Toko-Ri (1954) or Men in War (1957), or serious as in war melodrama like Battle Hymn (1957) and Tae Guk Gi (2004)? Oh god Battle Hymn is so bad.
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hope and vaseline posted:Oh my god, do people doing this not have eyes? Roger Deakins supervised the HD remaster. I sort of recall the 35mm prints in 2000 being a bit more saturated than the DVD, but that's 13 years ago. My guess is that variations are inevitable since the original 2K master is ancient by now.
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:South America at least kind of takes care of itself in that regard, there's a critical community and film institutions and a reasonable, if underfunded, amount of preservation going on. You can find lists of great South American films both in general and specific to the various countries. Do you have a link for any of these?
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