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scary ghost dog
Aug 5, 2007
Cap's face gets a lot worse a couple pages later.

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LightsGameraAction
Sep 4, 2006

TwoPair posted:

Okay, I guess my last one was really "Good/Bad Comic Art" since it got such mixed reactions. Here's something I hope I can get a more universal "What the gently caress?" on. Cap, what's wrong with your faaaaaace?

Age of Ultron 6

I was really hoping somebody would post this. I crack up every single time I look at it.

7744
Mar 27, 2003

It had no choice. Their defense grid was smashed. We'd won. Taking out Carr then would make no difference. Skynet had to wipe out his entire existence!
Wasn't sure where else to post this but my second original page came in the mail today, so I'll post it up along with my other page.

James Stokoe - Orc Stain - Issue 07, Page 15


Matt Kindt - The Tooth - OGN, Page 29


I would suggest to any comic fan that you buy at least one page of original art if you haven't already. It's amazing being able to see it up close and personal.

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

We have an awesome original art thread that could always use more postings.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3512726

Great buys though. I love the Tooth page.

FourLeaf
Dec 2, 2011

Waterhaul posted:

Yeah but the main thing is that even Moibius' worst is better than a lot of artists best.

Anyway here's some Bill Sienkiewicz doing some New Mutants.













This is awesome! I really need to own this. It reminds me of early Sandman somehow.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES

Hakkesshu posted:

The design itself was fine, but Quitely made him look like a greasy pedophile porn star. It's like that one hideous Emma Frost panel, except he looks like that throughout the entire run. God, how people can stand that guy's art I'll never know.

Edit: Case in point



That is positively revolting.
See, I've been always partial to the 90's animated series portrayal of him. I've always imagined Logan as more of a Danny Trejo: ugly by conventional standards but his scars give him presence and charisma.

Content: Phil Noto draws Jon Hamm as Superman



...and I wish this would be a TV show so bad :allears:

Benny the Snake fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Apr 20, 2013

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Benny the Snake posted:

Content: Phil Noto draws Jon Hamm as Superman



...and I wish this would be a TV show so bad :allears:

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Madman!

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Jedit posted:

Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's Madman!



Superman/Madman Hulaballoo by the always amazing Mike Allred.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

TwoPair posted:

Okay, I guess my last one was really "Good/Bad Comic Art" since it got such mixed reactions. Here's something I hope I can get a more universal "What the gently caress?" on. Cap, what's wrong with your faaaaaace?

Age of Ultron 6

Aside from the obvious Cap's face thing, what the gently caress is going on with this panel, is everyone falling out of the sky? Is the reader looking down from above? Everyone's pose and orientation looks like they were cut and pasted from different books, help.

VV Okay, that explains why Cap looks like he's about to throw up (he's airsick) but why does Fury look like he's running straight at the viewer, Hulk is doing the limbo on a different plane, Armored Forearms is standing oriented 90 degrees differently doing a martial arts kata, Quicksilver flying smoothly on a totally different axis ... everyone looks completely in control of themselves but they're all just oriented totally randomly. poo poo makes my brain hurt trying to figure it out help.

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Apr 21, 2013

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Flesh Forge posted:

Aside from the obvious Cap's face thing, what the gently caress is going on with this panel, is everyone falling out of the sky? Is the reader looking down from above? Everyone's pose and orientation looks like they were cut and pasted from different books, help.
Everyone who can't fly is being blown through the air by Storm. Which doesn't make a ton of sense, but this is a decent approximation of what that'd look like I guess?

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Yeah, Storm is blowing everyone.

Sax Offender
Sep 9, 2007

College Slice

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Yeah, Storm is blowing everyone.


Madrox
Jan 31, 2001

Does whatever
a multiple can.

Rhyno posted:



Superman/Madman Hulaballoo by the always amazing Mike Allred.

I did not know this existed, and now must purchase it immediately.

Also wanted to add that I agree the Moebius recolors are horrid. If I want to buy English translations of his work, can I get the original, or is only the recolor available?

Madrox fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Apr 21, 2013

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Benny the Snake posted:

Content: Phil Noto draws Jon Hamm as Superman



...and I wish this would be a TV show so bad :allears:

A good decision to stop just before reaching groin area, otherwise we'd have to see Superman drawn with more than just Jon Hamm's face likeness.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Heh, heh, heh. Bueno.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Madrox posted:


Also wanted to add that I agree the Moebius recolors are horrid. If I want to buy English translations of his work, can I get the original, or is only the recolor available?

The version of the Incal that Self Made Hero published had the original colors. As for wanting to buy English translations of his other works, good luck with that.

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat

TwoPair posted:

Okay, I guess my last one was really "Good/Bad Comic Art" since it got such mixed reactions. Here's something I hope I can get a more universal "What the gently caress?" on. Cap, what's wrong with your faaaaaace?

Age of Ultron 6

All I can see is a really tiny Iron Man punching Captain America in the jaw while we get an x-ray view of the handpuppet of a blue lady with a gun he's wearing on his other hand. Meanwhile, the Red Hulk has stolen one of Storm, Nick Fury, and a really tiny Quicksilver's legs to affix to his own three stumps; while a man cosplaying as Maria prepares to throw Quicksilver like a frisbee.

It makes me want to redraw these characters from a different perspective.



Edit: I know what they intended, but this is what I see.

PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Apr 22, 2013

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Madrox posted:

I did not know this existed, and now must purchase it immediately.

Also wanted to add that I agree the Moebius recolors are horrid. If I want to buy English translations of his work, can I get the original, or is only the recolor available?

I just got it and here is a link
http://www.amazon.com/Superman-Madm...dman+Hulaballoo

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!

Mister Roboto posted:

Wolverine's supposed to be a short, hairy manimal. Frankly, the disgustingly hairy '80s pornstar with more bodyhair than apes suits him.

Not all the X-men have to look like models. Especially when Cyclops is extremely thematically opposite, being tall and slim and handsome.

But manimal is quitelys only look. Everyone has a tiny flat face gurning out from a weird potato head. Male or female, bruiser or Beauty. God, when the authority switched over to him was like my least favourite comics moment ever.

Chinaman7000
Nov 28, 2003

Quietly on X-Man and Authority was horrible but there's something about the guy I like. He's unique and so stylistically defined, and he really does capture bodies and motion so well. His faces range from passable to... well, we all know how bad his faces can be, and his giant bodies don't match every story, but I feel super happy he gets such respect and high-level work despite not being a "sexy" artist. We3 is half his magic, and All Star Supe's tone was very defined by how his art looks.

I feel like him and Howard Chaykin should have a potato face drawing fight, though.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Chinaman7000 posted:

Quietly on X-Men and Authority was horrible
Never has there been a notion quite so wrong,
than this of the Chinaman, seven thousand strong.

DarkCrawler
Apr 6, 2009

by vyelkin
He's really horrible at drawing faces and really, bodies too, but amazing on action, motion and explosions and small details in them.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
Fallen Rib

TwoPair posted:

Okay, I guess my last one was really "Good/Bad Comic Art" since it got such mixed reactions. Here's something I hope I can get a more universal "What the gently caress?" on. Cap, what's wrong with your faaaaaace?

Age of Ultron 6

All I hear in my head when I see this panel is Captain American saying "G-G-G-G-Ghost!!!!"

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

DarkCrawler posted:

He's really horrible at drawing faces


Nope.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I will never understand why some people get such a.... visceral reaction to Frank Quitely faces.

I'll be the first to say that his faces and female physiques are his weakest point, but even then he's awesome at telling a story, which is what really matters.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

mind the walrus posted:

I will never understand why some people get such a.... visceral reaction to Frank Quitely faces.

Because they look weird and he tends to give everyone beestung lips - including the men. When he's on it he's really on it, though.

Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

mind the walrus posted:

I will never understand why some people get such a.... visceral reaction to Frank Quitely faces.

I'll be the first to say that his faces and female physiques are his weakest point, but even then he's awesome at telling a story, which is what really matters.

I don't think its weak. He just has a different style. They're just not aesthetically pleasing like a Adam Hughes or Bryan Hitch, etc. If he can get body language as expressive as in those in what the Clark vs Superman images show, that much thought put into it, then he has to have a good understanding of how a body functions, anatomy works, and how his designs/styles will interpret it. People are used to idealized images of men and women in comics and that it should be "pretty." Admittedly I don't remember how expressive he can make his characters in terms of expressing emotions in the face vs something like a Kevin Maguire.

EDIT: Agree with you on the last part.

Gatts fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Apr 23, 2013

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Jedit posted:

Because they look weird and he tends to give everyone beestung lips - including the men. When he's on it he's really on it, though.

There isn't a single instance of this in the above pictures.

Hakkesshu
Nov 4, 2009


I was the one who started the whole Quitely tirade (I think?) and in hindsight, I was being too dismissive of his work. I do like some of it, like We3, quite a bit, but I still think he's largely hit or miss. His strength being storytelling is definitely true, but it's not like every issue of New X-Men is as effective as the one where there's no dialogue (which I think is a fantastic issue, for the record). He's still pretty inconsistent and his faces are occasionally so off-putting and gnarly that it can take me out of the comic, which happened multiple times in New X-Men.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

I'm not disagreeing. It's just funny because Quitely really does have such a powerful impact on people. I also agree that his New X-Men and Authority-era work are easily the worst times in terms of potato face.

That said check out stuff like Flex Mentallo, it's definitely indicative of an artist who was trying a new style during New X-Men, one that didn't quite work.

Mr Wind Up Bird
Jan 23, 2004

i'm a goddamn coward
but then again so are you
If anyone else complains about Frank Quietly I'm going to suplex them into a canyon.

You know who I like? Tim Sale. He's not perfect but I usually enjoy looking at something he's done. Like, Catwoman: When In Rome doesn't make any goddamn sense at all but it's pretty.

This is from his issue of Solo with some very nice Cameron Stewart colors.



I like that he draws Catwoman with big gold bracelets even though it doesn't make any sense if you think about it for even a second. Something about it just "feels" right to me.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph

Mr Wind Up Bird posted:

This is from his issue of Solo with some very nice Cameron Stewart colors.


Her pose looks like it's pulled straight from a screenshot of a Pepe le Pew cartoon, and I honestly am not sure whether I like it or not.

Also that Stokoe page is awesome, dude's inking is loving crazy.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Ruin Completely posted:

Her pose looks like it's pulled straight from a screenshot of a Pepe le Pew cartoon, and I honestly am not sure whether I like it or not.

Personally I love it, that's about the most memorable Catwoman drawing I've ever seen. It's cute without being exploitive and really just charming as hell. :allears:

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Rhyno posted:

There isn't a single instance of this in the above pictures.

To be fair, New X-Men is full of it. It's stylisation, though. Nothing 'weak' or 'bad'.

Weather you like it or not, his style defines New X-men in equal portion to Morrison's writing, which is a great thing for an artist.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Apr 23, 2013

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



Ruin Completely posted:

Her pose looks like it's pulled straight from a screenshot of a Pepe le Pew cartoon, and I honestly am not sure whether I like it or not.



The "eeep" dialogue makes me think it's intentional.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES

Ruin Completely posted:

Her pose looks like it's pulled straight from a screenshot of a Pepe le Pew cartoon, and I honestly am not sure whether I like it or not.
Given how WB owns DC, I think that it's very much intentional.

Mazed
Oct 23, 2010

:blizz:


That Catwoman pose is amazing, because it's the only time in a comic where that arched-back-butt-out-pinup-gal pose actually works, and to hilarious effect.

I can't help but read their exchange in these completely bland, conversational tones, as well, which is also great.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.
People who aren't Quitely fans because they don't like how he drew the X-Men or JLA should look at Jupiter's Legacy, which just came out.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Heresiarch posted:

People who aren't Quitely fans because they don't like how he drew the X-Men or JLA should look at Jupiter's Legacy, which just came out.

Look at it yes. But don't try to make sense of the plot as it's another "Mark Millar barely gives us enough info to make this poo poo interesting in the slightest loving bit" comic.

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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Rhyno posted:

Look at it yes. But don't try to make sense of the plot as it's another "Mark Millar barely gives us enough info to make this poo poo interesting in the slightest loving bit" comic.

So its another Mark Millar is writing for the sole purpose of making it into a movie?

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