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Yeah, the end of that Maron show got depressing fast because of the show self esteem issues. I would totally pay for UYD. I pay for poo poo like Giantbomb, and I don't get as much joy out of them as I have gotten out of UYD. They should have a subscription feature for their site which has some meaningful content, make some premium content. They are better than most other podcasts, they can be so much more.
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Another Person posted:Yeah, the end of that Maron show got depressing fast because of the show self esteem issues. I would totally pay for UYD. I pay for poo poo like Giantbomb, and I don't get as much joy out of them as I have gotten out of UYD. They should have a subscription feature for their site which has some meaningful content, make some premium content. They are better than most other podcasts, they can be so much more. But at the same time, them not charging for it I think contributes to the atmosphere of the show. It definitely showed the difference between UYD and most other successful shows.
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Apr 22, 2013 15:49
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I think the fact the show is free is part of it, but at the same time I'm sure that they could get money if they asked for it, even if it wasn't a per-episode deal. UYD is a kind of way of life for a lot of people it seems, and in that way it's different than pretty much any other podcast there is.
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Apr 22, 2013 16:22
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What a great episode. Went by too quick. I think the main thing I got out of it is that they themselves are holding the show back. They don't do advertising, they don't do other shows, it just simply is.
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Apr 22, 2013 16:32
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Does anyone know what percentage they'd be able to pocket from selling per episode on iTunes? Or is it way more complicated than that? I'm just thinking that there HAVE to be >20,000 people who would buy and download every episode regardless of how much they charge. Right? I would. Haven't yet listened to the WTF ep so I don't know if they actually talk about how many people download.
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Apr 22, 2013 16:38
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I would definitely start paying for UYD once I start my new job, even if I just subscribe to it for $1 an episode or something. Maybe I'll pick up some UYD merch if they actually are revamping that/the site as they said. Also they acknowledged the whole "Johnathan started the show as a sober vegetarian, now Seth drained that from him"  That was a good interview all around.
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Apr 22, 2013 17:10
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Hey guys. Do all you UYD-heads think I should listen to the WTF episode now, or am I missing the full effect of the first 368 episodes if I know things about Seth?
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Beeez posted:Hey guys. Do all you UYD-heads think I should listen to the WTF episode now, or am I missing the full effect of the first 368 episodes if I know things about Seth? It doesn't really matter. I think listening to just the newest episode and then WTF would be enough. Or just youtube clips.
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Apr 22, 2013 17:39
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Beeez posted:Hey guys. Do all you UYD-heads think I should listen to the WTF episode now, or am I missing the full effect of the first 368 episodes if I know things about Seth? Seth didn't really reveal anything that you couldn't have inferred from listening for a few months. Otherwise I thought it was a good interview, this Marc guy seemed pretty adapt at getting them to talk. Even though it was mostly Jonathan talking as usual. Seth seemed at a loss for words several times as he tried to explain himself or talk about his reasoning or aspirations in a truthful manner. Really seemed like they are now considering trying to make a little cash off the podcast though, so that's kind of neat. While it would be annoying to have to fast forward through a few minutes of advertisements at the beginning of each show, I think I could handle it. Premium content would be rad too, maybe some more videotapes of the show going down. I'd pay for that, maybe.
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Apr 22, 2013 18:20
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This will not be a popular opinion but I didn't want to hear Ja babble, and that seems like all it was.
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Apr 22, 2013 18:26
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Splits posted:This will not be a popular opinion but I didn't want to hear Ja babble, and that seems like all it was. No, I'm with you. I'm downloading it right now, but this makes me want to put off listening to it until later. Jonathan's tangents about nothing are pretty much the only thing that I'm not crazy about on UYD. They can be funny sometimes but more often than not I'm just like "spit it out!"
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Apr 22, 2013 18:34
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SaxMaverick posted:This makes me appreciate UYD's minimal advertising over the years, that and how awesome they were when they did it Their insulting plugs for Entourage were great.
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Apr 22, 2013 19:18
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That was mega depressing. Someone get Jonathan a lunch with Matt Belknap, maybe he can help them out with a subscription plan?
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Apr 22, 2013 19:33
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I really wish they'd start selling things again in the store
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Apr 22, 2013 19:54
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I think that's reading a bit into it. It sounds to me like the HBO stuff gave them hope of something bigger, but when it didn't work out they were resigned to the podcast just being something they did for fun. If they desperately needed money from the podcast, they would be doing twice or three times as many live shows, and wouldn't be half-assing the merch. The recent boon of podcasts getting tv stuff probably has them feeling left behind. I'm not sure a tv show on network or cable is a great fit, but I could totally see them producing something for Netflix or Amazon. Both want original content bad right now and would take a risk on a show that looked like the HBO stuff did. Other than that, I could see them producing a segment for an existing show. Cherry pick 5-10 minutes out of each podcast. The only issue with that is a limited exposure would take longer for people to adjust to their language/style.
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Power Player posted:I really wish they'd start selling things again in the store Yeah but didn't Jonathan say that the reason stuff wasn't getting shipped out on time was because he spent the money on drugs? I really sympathize with them for trying to find a good way to capitalize on the show, but I have the feeling it is really them that are holding back their efforts. You kind of have to hustle to be a success in your own right.
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a starwar betamax posted:Seth didn't really reveal anything that you couldn't have inferred from listening for a few months. Well, Marc Maron is no Larry King. Clearly the girlfriend had advised Marc that he'd need to directly address and try to draw out Seth. But Seth clearly hated the whole thing, and Marc's taste in humor clearly didn't jive with Seth's. It didn't help that Marc got in his own way at times (asks Seth a question, Seth starts to talk, and Marc interrupts to say just a sec, and leaves the loving mic to go talk to his neighbor) and J-dog got in the way most of the other times. Best part was learning that not only does Seth work in a medical marijuana dispensary, but also that he got the job by responding to an ad on CraigsHouse. So awesome. Worst part was them saying that they went on Marc's podcast basically hoping someone would notice them that way. Guys, you're the best.
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What the guys really need is a night time radio slot, like Stern's kind of deal, just to get them some mainstream exposure. These guys would kill on radio, especially with Jah's music knowledge. Edit: Reasoning for radio and not straight to TV, TV is riskier. gently caress up TV and you might as well forget it all, whereas radio is much more lax. Another Person fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Apr 22, 2013 |
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Apr 22, 2013 21:53
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How it is possible that Marc Maron is getting his own show on IFC? That 10 minute story he told at the beginning of the UYD episode was so boring and unfunny it was staggering.
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Jeff Wiiver posted:How it is possible that Marc Maron is getting his own show on IFC? That 10 minute story he told at the beginning of the UYD episode was so boring and unfunny it was staggering. Oh yeah, I forgot to say how boring Marc Maron is. After two minutes of hearing his voice I skipped ahead until the boys came on. He's terrible. Seth and J-dog are so much better than this, it's depressing that they feel like they have to go on Marc's show to get some notice.
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Apr 22, 2013 23:08
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It's a lot easier for a tv exec to wrap their head around giving a show to a guy who has been a standup for 20 years, has a successful podcast, and can interview people. As opposed to "these two guys you have never heard of that banter about news articles." Hopefully they get some exposure somewhere, an online show or segment or something. Amazon is doing that greenlight stuff, they should submit something to it.
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Apr 22, 2013 23:28
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I came away from the WTF episode thinking what a lot of the initial charm/character of the show are also the reasons why it's not had the financial and popular success as Maron, Hardwick, Pardo and the networks like MaxFun and Earwolf. UYD is about two goofy burnouts who like going through life laughin and slappin'. And bleeds over to how they handle the podcast as well with merch issues, being late on episodes and what not. I think a donation drive like MaxFun or a concentrated app like Maron has for WTF probably would be the best way to go, but it's probably going to take someone outside of Jonathan and Seth to do it.
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The WTF episode left me feeling bummed. I realized how much I like their show and how amazing their chemistry is together. I would be down for a dollar a show donation. This is a little E/N, but I was also listening at my day job and, whether this is true or not, I thought that I won't ever get recognition for my creative pursuits. They did seem to have a sense of humor with the whole situation though. New episode is great. The New Adult segment was hilarious. Adult penises are near you. They're asking about you.
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I thought it was interesting hearing actual frustration and defensiveness about UYD creep into Seth's voice there towards the end. After Mark was basically saying they were failures. Seth obviously takes pride in the product they put together but it seems clear that they both feel they would somehow sully it if they began monetizing it. I hope they can come up with a way of still feeling good about what they do AND make more than a few dollars off of it.
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I love UYD and would definitely donate - there's various successful ways too, like a $2/month optional subscription like SlashFilmCast or premium episodes like Doug Loves Movies. Wish I could help these boys out, because they're awesome.
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You could just, like, donate on their website now if y'all feel like it.
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Professor Latency posted:You could just, like, donate on their website now if y'all feel like it.
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If I took anything away from the WTF, it was that Seth really has and does use the show as a coping mechanism for his recovery. I always suspected as much, but he really spelled it out. I don't doubt at all that they really would do the show forever if they could.
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Apr 23, 2013 01:44
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That was pretty interesting (the WTF ep). That's definitely not a show I'll be picking up though, dude's boring. Would have been nice to hear more from Seth but that's just Seth I guess. I was never sure if he really worked at a dispensary but there you go.
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Apr 23, 2013 02:23
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I've heard people actually enjoy listening to the WTF guy talk about himself while ignoring his guests. Is this true or just an in-joke by his fans?
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a starwar betamax posted:I've heard people actually enjoy listening to the WTF guy talk about himself while ignoring his guests. Is this true or just an in-joke by his fans? A lot of people say that Howard Stern is one of the best interviewers because when he's in interview mode, he rarely talks about himself, unless people ask. Marc seems to be like the exact opposite of that, constantly trying to relate things people say to his own life. Everything came back to some dumb story about how he used to do drugs, or how he's been doing stand up for a long time. He must think he's an amazing interviewer though because he only said it about half a dozen times in less than 1.5 hours. (He's awful.) I just went and listened to parts of some other interviews of his, with people I find interesting, and I have no idea how he's so popular.
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There are some really good WTF's that I have listened to in the past. The 2-part Louie C.K. was fantastic. I don't listen much anymore though because he's pretty much burned through his friends/enemies that I am interested in and getting more into music people that I am not interested in. He definitely interviews people through the lens of his regrets/addictions though, so it can lead to some stinkers and will turn people off of him altogether.
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I think there's some schadenfreude involved in listening to Marc Maron, especially when he has a guest on and goes on and on about how they slighted him in the past and the guest clearly has no idea what he's talking about and obviously never held any animosity toward him. Getting people to open up by making them think "Hell, at least my story isn't as pathetic as this guy's" is a pretty decent tactic.
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Eltoasto posted:He definitely interviews people through the lens of his regrets/addictions
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I thought it was funny how Maron brought up Malcolm Gladwell at the end when a few episodes ago they were going over how many more years of shows they would needed to get to their 10,000 hours.
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SaxMaverick posted:This makes me appreciate UYD's minimal advertising over the years, that and how awesome they were when they did it Generally UYD manages to avoid the corniness that most all other comedy podcasts tend to fall into. Punkin Spunkin fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Apr 23, 2013 |
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im a girl btw posted:I was never sure if he really worked at a dispensary but there you go. After that got confirmed, Horse-Weed-Mind's Eye suddenly made a ton more sense.
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I think Seth's work history was probably the best part of the whole interview. What a crazy line of work he's been in.
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dvorak posted:I think Seth's work history was probably the best part of the whole interview. What a crazy line of work he's been in. Yeah, but I thought it was kind of sweet that he sincerely seems to see himself as a healer. Honestly, I learned so much about the guys from this interview. It was great to hear them speaking so candidly about their lives, to have some of my long-standing questions of where they see themselves in the larger podcast world finally addressed, and even to hear Seth open up a little. He was pretty shy about his addiction, but I strongly disagree that he didn't want to be there. This episode could have gone a lot of ways, but they both seemed legitimately excited to be on the show, and Maron kept his condescension to a minimum. I was thrilled when I found out they were going to be on, and if anything it managed to exceed my expectations. I loved it.
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