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I bet it's lovely to someone who doesn't like it, or thinks it's lovely. Just my thoughts on the matter.
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jerkstore77 posted:You are really good at expressing your opinion as fact. Seriously, what did I just read? loving plebes wasting their time having fun in their stupid little skinner boxes that they call games. If only they had an IQ of 187 like me they would be able to enjoy the games I enjoy. 
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Apr 26, 2013 22:34
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This guy took Psych 101 - he checks out. If only the rest of us knew how stupid we were staring at glass rectangles all day long, drooling mindlessly. I imagine he's going to be gone for a few hours now. He's got an appointment with himself all evening sniffing his own farts and jacking off to his own delicious aroma. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 26, 2013 22:52
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The perfect casual game would be Animal Crossing with a full-on Harvest Moon farm and the option to manually advance a day instead of following real-time.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:00
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It's waaaaaaaay too late to get angry about Mobage having a Final Fantasy license, did you miss the one they already have? In an already crowded field of lovely card games they managed to turn out the worst so far. I freely include in that list the pirate porn release, FF card game was worse! http://www.mobage.com/games/ff-airborne-brigade Out of the 8 zillion pokemonish-card type games theres maybe 3 worth a look, Fantasica, Blood Brothers & Defender of Texel. Rage of Bahamut or Marvel enthusiasts might disagree, I was disappointed to see how high up the top grossing list the Marvel game was.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:05
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Rexicon1 posted:The examples you used are the absolute best way to reinforce my point because these games are absolute crap that only measure your success by the amount of time you put in or if you really want to be successful to pay a buttload of money. These games are the most basic lovely skinner boxes that anyone with a functioning frontal brain can identify as terrible. I suppose that there is a market for brainless dogshit games but there is also a market for reality tv. I'm not going to accept the premise that monetary gain potential signifies a "good" game. You're posting in a thread full of people who like that kind of stuff. It's not worth arguing. People like different poo poo than you. Yeah they're probably dumb but you're not going to fix that by yelling at them on the internet. At some point you just have to accept that you are no longer the target audience for your old favorite gaming platforms and get on with your life.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:06
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gently caress me. Finally got round to Crabitron. Help me I'm dying of laughter. I beat up Cyberclops and then broke the Space Titanic. Anyway, gonna go get my crab on some more.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:14
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jerkstore77 posted:You are really good at expressing your opinion as fact. Trying to hold you to a higher standard. You're better than this dammit. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 26, 2013 23:30
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Clocks posted:Seriously, what did I just read? rogue wave posted:This guy took Psych 101 - he checks out. If only the rest of us knew how stupid we were staring at glass rectangles all day long, drooling mindlessly. I imagine he's going to be gone for a few hours now. He's got an appointment with himself all evening sniffing his own farts and jacking off to his own delicious aroma. These ad hominems are really something else. I'm legitimately sorry that you had to resort to this to prove your points. Rexicon1 fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Apr 26, 2013 23:33
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Speaking of awesome games which sink overlooked into the app store, I'm pretty sure Forget Me Not must qualify since I never see it mentioned around here. It's like a bonkers rogue-like Pac-Man with all sorts of mechanics which gel together shockingly well. You can find some videos and a less-fully-featured-but-free Windows version here! I love it! It's really good! Check it out!
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Apr 26, 2013 23:40
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It's not as simple as liking different poo poo than other people. It's about not liking something AND taking it as far as considering the App Store a failure because the thing you don't like is hugely successful. I don't like Call of Duty games or online multiplayer shooters. However, I don't think the state of FPS gaming or PC Gaming in general is poo poo because I don't like those things. I'd argue more but the mouse that just moved into my Happy Street needs me to craft him an iron rod.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:41
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Holy poo poo this thread can't go a single day without some boring rear end argument.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:42
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If you aren't playing Robot Unicorn Attack 2 with the Erasure IAP purchased you aren't doing it right. Also, Team Inferno 4 LYFE.
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Apr 26, 2013 23:46
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Been having fun with Bloons TD 5. Unfortunately doesn't have coop like the flash version though.
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Time posted:Holy poo poo this thread can't go a single day without some boring rear end argument. Holy poo poo this thread can't have a discussion without someone chiming in to tell us they don't like the discussion. jerkstore77 posted:I don't like Call of Duty games or online multiplayer shooters. However, I don't think the state of FPS gaming or PC Gaming in general is poo poo because I don't like those things. You couldn't have chosen a better example of how a game can negatively affect game development than CoD. I'm not going to say that there aren't things about it that are intriguing, but for the most part, CoD's runaway maddening success has caused stagnation in its particular genre. It's a simple system that for a while became a sure-fire way to make money and because of the fact that games are big business now games started adding those kinds of systems willy-nilly without regards to whether they were any kind of value to the rest of the game. Now take a look at the way the iOS store is polluted with systems that effectively ruin what might have been a perfectly fun game that all use the same system that Farmville used when it make all of its money. Game development will stagnate if there is no incentive for innovation. If good games get lost in the shuffle of the zeitgeist (and the garbage app store) then people will resort to the tried and true methods to feed themselves.
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silly posted:If you aren't playing Robot Unicorn Attack 2 with the Erasure IAP purchased you aren't doing it right. Also, Team Inferno 4 LYFE. Bad team for bad people. Otherwise, correct. Also, I think the main issue with it is that the app store shows no regard for separating types of games in any meaningful way. Theres basically no distinction between action and adventure and the things that get listed in rpg are insane. I love longer-winded games myself and while I have a few simple time wasters I don't have much patience for the repetition of many of them. I wish they'd reflect on this and actually separate out new relatively genres like infinite runners from other action games for instance. I personally think the touch screen as a medium is fantastic for adventure/puzzle games and I've absolutely adored things like Year Walk and S+S EP (and really looking forward to the sequel to The Room). It's a little disappointing that the store is so saturated with what are basically mobile phone games. Sad lions fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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Apr 26, 2013 23:58
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Shalinor posted:Hold his fist with your claw, then reach around and bang his brains out. He's the easiest of the bosses. Oh geez.  I seriously wonder how long it would have taken me to figure that out.
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Bought Crabitron now that it's discounted. I hope more people will buy it now that it's cheaper - from what I read in this thread I was already convinced it's probably a lot of fun, but I never play games on the iPad enough to warrant the bigger price tag. This view is obviously skewed by the prevailing market conditions on the App Store, but there you go.
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Alpha Kenny Juan posted:Oh geez. he kind of breaks out of it if you hold him too long though.
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silly posted:If you aren't playing Robot Unicorn Attack 2 with the Erasure IAP purchased you aren't doing it right. Also, Team Inferno 4 LYFE.
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Rexicon1 posted:These ad hominems are really something else. I'm legitimately sorry that you had to resort to this to prove your points. Since I'm not discrediting nor am I proving a point, it's not an ad hominem. I'm allowed to mock you for being a douche. I assure you that you're not the only one here familiar with logical fallacies. If you want to try and call me out on one, it better actually fit, because I could spend all night shoe horning your posts in to various fallacies. You set the standard. Absolutely nothing you posted thus far indicates you're above that sort of poo poo posting, so taking the high ground now is too little, too late. rogue wave fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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Time posted:Holy poo poo this thread can't go a single day without some boring rear end argument. I wish we could split it out into an "Actual Game Discussion" thread and an "Endless Pointless Arguments About IAP/Control Schemes/Nature of Mobile Gaming/Other Bullshit" thread.
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rogue wave posted:If you want to try and call me out on one, it better actually fit, because I could spend all night shoe horning your posts in to various fallacies. I made a point about the quality of iOS games. You disagreed about my conclusion. Your argument against my assertion was "you are a naive college student". That's a pretty much the definition of a lazy ad hominem. Also. I'm not here to win a debate with you, I'm sure I have logical fallacies in my argument. I'm not a scholar. But at least try to have a discussion without resorting to name calling. StarkRavingMad posted:I wish we could split it out into an "Actual Game Discussion" thread and an "Endless Pointless Arguments About IAP/Control Schemes/Nature of Mobile Gaming/Other Bullshit" thread. I would love to talk about actual games but I don't think there are very many exciting games around. It's only natural for people who are dissatisfied to discuss why they feel that way. Rexicon1 fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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First Battle Academy, now Crabitron, and soon Eclipse are really making me wish I had an iPad  I was absolutely crushed when I learned that Eclipse wasn't going to be a universal app. Here's hoping that Big Daddy Creations brings Eclipse over to the iPhone.
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StarkRavingMad posted:I wish we could split it out into an "Actual Game Discussion" thread and an "Endless Pointless Arguments About IAP/Control Schemes/Nature of Mobile Gaming/Other Bullshit" thread. Which only triggers daily "OH GAWD take this conversation to that other thread" discussions. In both threads. Basically some people just need to realize that not every single post is going to be relevant to their interests, and let the ones they don't care about just drift on by like a log in a river.
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Rexicon1 posted:stuff Again, I merely mocked what you said, I did not throw my hat into the ring agreeing or disagreeing with you. I agree with more than what you know and never expressed anything else. It was the manner in which you expressed these viewpoints that reeked of pseudo-intellectuality. You can call my post lazy, but I'm not allowed to call your posts douchey? I might be lazily posting, but your posts are without a doubt douche-ridden. Whether you have a valid point or not was never my concern and I never said anything to the contrary.
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rogue wave posted:Again, I merely mocked what you said, I did not throw my hat into the ring agreeing or disagreeing with you. I agree with more than what you know and never expressed anything else. It was the manner in which you expressed these viewpoints that reeked of pseudo-intellectuality. You can call my post lazy, but I'm not allowed to call your posts douchey? I might be lazily posting, but your posts are without a doubt douche-ridden. Whether you have a valid point or not was never my concern and I never said anything to the contrary. Then next time just post a picture of a my avatar and then an equal sign and a picture of a poop and you can communicate your awful humor more effectively. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Rexicon1 posted:Then next time just post a picture of a my avatar and then an equal sign and a picture of a poop and you can communicate your awful humor more effectively. Butt jokes are your thing, not mine. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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So how do you do the laser in Crabitron? Every so often the crab does it, and I'm supposed to be lasering a UFO with it. Giant belching space crabs are awesome.
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The problem with the mobile gaming is that is small, divided, restrictive, and over-saturated. iOS and android gaming market make about 1.9 billion dollars a year. Compared the the 78 billion of the total gaming market that is pretty small. Then look at who uses the market. Children, casual gamers and gross nerds (that's us!). Children have no money, so getting free games is no brainier for them. When they are hooked then they will beg for a gift card for all the IAP. Casual gamers don't really want full games. Words with friends and scrabble are easy to pick up and play with friends. More complex games (not better just complex) can be frustrating to play if you haven't already sunken a lifetime into video games. A lot of people don't want to invest the time to be good at virtual controls. For example here is what Paul McCartney said to someone about Beatles rockband. "Oh, cool. I bet you’re better at it than I am. My grandkids always beat me at Rock Band. And I say, Listen, you may beat me at Rock Band, but I made the original records, so shut up". So that brings us to gross nerd (hello). Some of you want a complex gaming experience with no IAP. Some of you don't. It is pretty safe to say that of those of you that want the complex gaming, you also have a computer and/or game console. So for a developer that wants to make a complex game, it is a safer bet to just make something for the computer and try to get it on steam than deal with the iOS market. Which means jumping through apple's lovely hoops, making different resolutions, force to deal with their programming language, dealing with their lovely market, and paying 99 dollars a year. Then think of how many apps come out each day. It is figurative flood of apps. If you don't get some good reviews, give the game away for free, be famous, or pay for marketing then you can expect poor sales. This has lead to the creation of free game with pay walls. This game tend to be pretty shallow and incomplete, they can be pumped out quickly and relatively cheap. but as their income increases they can afford to make more complex games or complete the ones they have already made. Like or not these games make sense for the iOS market.
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I agree with most everything Shwqa is saying but I would replace the idea of complexity with depth. There is no incentive for people to create deep games on iOS, they get overwhelmed by cow-clickerkin and lose money. I sure do value the hell out of those that try though. There is so much goddamn potential. I hope it's realized before the bubble bursts.
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Apr 27, 2013 01:00
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Does anyone care about this poo poo? Lets just talk about games.
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Here are some codes for Doodle Truck 2 you guys. Enjoy!
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Roving Reporter posted:Here are some codes for Doodle Truck 2 you guys. Enjoy! I grabbed the second one. Thanks!
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:Does anyone care about this poo poo? Lets just talk about games. The biggest issue with iOS gaming is people thinking about it. It's a market of free time killers and a bunch of somewhat deep games around the price it takes to burg out at McDonald's. Take a poo poo, play what you want, move on. It really doesn't matter and the beauty of mobile gaming is the lack of commitment it takes to stay involved. Oh god I broke the first rule of poop club. And dude who said bad things about Animal Crossing. Nah, don't do that. Let's fight.
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Apr 27, 2013 01:10
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Got the second from the bottom. Thanks!
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Bummey posted:I grabbed the second one. Thanks! I didn't grab any of them but I bet it's a fun game.
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LASER BEAM DREAM posted:Does anyone care about this poo poo? Lets just talk about games. Because trends are interesting to me. I'm trying to explain why developers seem to moving over to free to pay model. And why consumers seem to be flocking to these games despite this costing them more money that paying 5 dollars for crabs. For many of us we grew up paying "large" ($50+) amounts of money for a game. But we got that game it was relatively complete and the game was based around a natural progression of player skill or time invested. Now we got game that are free to pay, but there are timers and progression is much different. To some is a downgrade, to others it is not a big deal. But what is important is it seem to be the primary sales to mobile gaming. I'm trying to answer why that is. Kilometers Davis posted:The biggest issue with iOS gaming is people thinking about it. It's a market of free time killers and a bunch of somewhat deep games around the price it takes to burg out at McDonald's. Take a poo poo, play what you want, move on. It really doesn't matter and the beauty of mobile gaming is the lack of commitment it takes to stay involved. Oh god I broke the first rule of poop club. Shwqa fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Apr 27, 2013 |
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For me it's more like, a lot of games don't have demos. A f2p game is like a demo and if I like it enough I can pay money for stuff. It really depends on if the IAP is severely lovely or not though.
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Sad lions posted:Bad team for bad people. Urdnot Fire posted:Figures that an Inferno person would misspell Never Ending Story IAP so horribly. SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOREBOAAAAAAAARD
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