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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Test-0 posted:

The WHAT.

OH. MY. GOD.
So what, it's a ring that make unarmed combat viable? I definitely want to try that, at least for the novelty.

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marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Not sure about viable, but it's a ring that "boosts the wearer's power when fighting barehanded." I'm thinking when I head back to the mainland I'll see how much of the game I can tackle with just my fists.

Tyskil
Jan 28, 2009
One of the Secret Augments makes you pick up items faster. I can hoover things up so fast I can run over and grab from a pile that a pawn has already started sifting through and get the item. It looks like sometimes they even make a little fist shaking gesture when they come up from the pile of trash/seam of ore they were digging in and I already took all the useful poo poo. Sorry little guy, get better augments.

Secret Augments are The Best, is what I'm saying.

Wooph
Oct 28, 2010

by angerbot
Well let's hope that there will be a monk class or something that uses fist weapons in the sequel, so we can uppercut goblins into the stratosphere.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Wooph posted:

Well let's hope that there will be a monk class or something that uses fist weapons in the sequel, so we can uppercut goblins into the stratosphere.

gently caress, I'd buy 2 copies just for that option!

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Wooph posted:

Well let's hope that there will be a monk class or something that uses fist weapons in the sequel, so we can uppercut goblins into the stratosphere.
The other weapon classes already have an uppercut attack though. What I want from an unarmed class is all grappling and groundwork, all the time. Most enemies fall into a few set body types, and you could make really awesome looking grapple animations. I want to climb into a griffon's wing and just break it with freakish strength, and watch them tumble down to earth.

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

epitasis posted:

Do you have to get to Gran Soren the first time to hire your friends' pawns? I restarted and the "friends" option is greyed out, as is the special pawns one.

Also would I be totally gimping my pawn if I had her get some levels in ranger/warrior just to buff up her survivability if she's generally going to be a mage?

There's no limit like that on friends' pawns. Have you set connectivity to Online in the options? It's Offline by default because Capcom is dumb.

The handful of magic stat points your pawn would lose doing that won't make any real difference.

juggalo baby coffin
Dec 2, 2007

How would the dog wear goggles and even more than that, who makes the goggles?


Does NG+ make bitterblack island insanely difficult or something? Everything is kicking the poo poo out of me and it's just not fun.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty
Glad I got this game at last. Lots of fun. I found a pawn named Hodor.
For some reason there is this one pawn that doesn't stand with everybody else and is level 68 and free. (The ones I've seen so far are my own level and free too though)

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat

Torabi posted:

Glad I got this game at last. Lots of fun. I found a pawn named Hodor.
For some reason there is this one pawn that doesn't stand with everybody else and is level 68 and free. (The ones I've seen so far are my own level and free too though)

That's probably a pawn belonging to one of your PSN/XBL friends.

a foolish pianist
May 6, 2007

(bi)cyclic mutation

Whoa, I just found a huge version of one of the Evil Eyes, not too far down in Bitterblack. I couldn't do near enough damage to take it, though, and I had to run.

Babe Magnet
Jun 2, 2008

Here's a HOT TIP for defeating the Big Eye.

If you can't hurt it at range (I killed him as a Warrior), jump below and fight tentacles. Eventually he'll start summoning big ones (you'll see an orange glow) and you just gotta maneuver enough to make him punch himself in the face. Then his eye drops and you can bonk him to death. Watch out for his poison though, he likes to cover the entire bottom floor.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
For those of you who want some extremely cheap health potions, you can go to the Northwest of the bridge north of Gran Soren and find a healing spring. Buy a whole ton of empty bottles and bottle it. It heals your entire party for 330 hp(slightly less than Potent Greenwarish). You can even give it to your pawns and they will use it when you or one of your pawns is extremely low on health.

The only downside is that it's about twice as heavy as normal Greenwarish, and that you have to manually bottle it(giving some empty bottles to your pawns can help).

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Another protip: if you're hoarding skulls for the notice board quest, don't let your pawns share the load. They seem to think it's hilarious to huck them at enemies, which as far as I'm aware, does precisely dick.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty
Am I the only one who finds the English a bit.. off? Some of the stuff that they say seems to be trying to sound like "ye olde English" but it just sounds odd mostly and what is up with everybody calling me cousin? Is the village in the beginning one giant incest village or what?

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

That's probably a pawn belonging to one of your PSN/XBL friends.

Ah. Makes sense.

Also how do I change my vocation? Maybe I'm still too early in the game but I thought you could change that whenever you wanted?

Boar It fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Apr 27, 2013

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!
Once you get to Gran Soren you can change. There's also apparently a person on the new island who can change your class, but there are people saying you can only change between the base classes.

And yeah, the fake old english is pretty bad, but it's also pretty funny so I think it evens out.

Tyskil
Jan 28, 2009

Torabi posted:

and what is up with everybody calling me cousin? Is the village in the beginning one giant incest village or what?


It's a general tearm of endearment like calling someone unrelated to you "brother". I assume Capcom chose it because it's more gender neutral and they didn't have to record two separate lines for each random villager.

Boar It
Jul 29, 2011

Mesmerizing eyebrows is my specialty

RatHat posted:

Once you get to Gran Soren you can change. There's also apparently a person on the new island who can change your class, but there are people saying you can only change between the base classes.

And yeah, the fake old english is pretty bad, but it's also pretty funny so I think it evens out.

Isn't vocation the same thing as class?

And I like how there are random pawns walking around in the game too. I just ran into one called Slutface. :v:

see you tomorrow
Jun 27, 2009

RatHat posted:

Once you get to Gran Soren you can change. There's also apparently a person on the new island who can change your class, but there are people saying you can only change between the base classes.

And yeah, the fake old english is pretty bad, but it's also pretty funny so I think it evens out.

The woman on the island will change your vocation to anything you want but you have to be level 10 before you can select anything other than the starter vocations. Same as if you manage to reach Gran Soren before you hit level 10.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Torabi posted:

Isn't vocation the same thing as class?

And I like how there are random pawns walking around in the game too. I just ran into one called Slutface. :v:

Yeah vocations are classes.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

FirstPersonShitter posted:

Does NG+ make bitterblack island insanely difficult or something? Everything is kicking the poo poo out of me and it's just not fun.

I don't know if it's NG+ but I feel ya. About halfway through you start meeting the minotaurs(?) and the grey ogres and I'm having to pop open the menu for healing after every hit. I feel like maybe the area was balanced for the strider-type classes because honestly going melee is pretty punishing. There's lot of situations, from Death to the 360 arcs on a few bosses and monsters and the like where you need to just not be nearby.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
I wonder whether the discrepancies(read: humongous chasm) between the game's language and real middle/early modern english are intentional. I mean you'd even sound like a crazy person at a Ren Faire talking like that.

Tyskil
Jan 28, 2009
So what determines when loot respawns now? Saving and loading doesn't do the trick, and the parts of bitterblack Isle I can actually go into without dying immediately are basically empty now. I hope you don't have to complete the dungeon entirely before more loot spawns.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

tooooooo bad posted:

There's no limit like that on friends' pawns. Have you set connectivity to Online in the options? It's Offline by default because Capcom is dumb.

The handful of magic stat points your pawn would lose doing that won't make any real difference.

Wow, that is retarded. Thanks.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Fergus Mac Roich posted:

I wonder whether the discrepancies(read: humongous chasm) between the game's language and real middle/early modern english are intentional. I mean you'd even sound like a crazy person at a Ren Faire talking like that.
I assume they were aiming to duplicate language like that from other fiction, which may be wildly inaccurate too but its what people know.

Cheap/unlimited ferrystones and way more fort crystals sure changes the game...not in a totally good way. The escort quests especially have become meaningless (given that I know the few places everyone wants to go beforehand), just ferrystone there and ferrystone back, takes thirty seconds.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
It comes off as a better change if you don't know all the escort locations. I couldn't remember the map at all from the original game and did maybe 1 escort quest ever so I can't do that trick. It just means I get around way faster in the normal course of play.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

It's a Japanese company intentionally aping Game of Thrones. I'm serious; before the game came out they specifically called out GRRM's books as their inspiration for the language.

The Song of Ice and Fire series, as I understand, is well liked in Japan and they released the books in multiple parts like a series of light novels. They also have really bitching cover art.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
The Japanese version is nowhere near as colorful, it's just straight Tokyo Japanese with a few old flourishes on occasion.

edit: It has a ridiculous number of unusual Chinese compounds though.

Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Apr 27, 2013

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

I'm pretty sure they just looked at how popular the HBO production was and said, "Why don't we imitate that?" when they were working on the English dub. I haven't watched much of the show, though I have read the books, and it seems much more exaggerated in DD than GoT.

Except for the weird way they use certain words or phrases all the loving time. Pawns say "aught" like GRRM uses the phrases "much and more" and "little and less." (Okay, I haven't actually combed through the books and counted the incidences but they come up enough to be obnoxious).

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Goddamn going through the final area before the last boss is a real slog the second time. All these high level and annoying enemies everywhere with Death floating overhead waiting to engage and gently caress your poo poo up.

edit: Final area of bitterblack isle.

Fergus Mac Roich
Nov 5, 2008

Soiled Meat
It isn't just pawns, it's everyone. Words like something and anything just don't exist in the world of Dragon's Dogma.

Rascyc
Jan 23, 2008

Dissatisfied Puppy

Samurai Sanders posted:

I assume they were aiming to duplicate language like that from other fiction, which may be wildly inaccurate too but its what people know.

Cheap/unlimited ferrystones and way more fort crystals sure changes the game...not in a totally good way. The escort quests especially have become meaningless (given that I know the few places everyone wants to go beforehand), just ferrystone there and ferrystone back, takes thirty seconds.
If eliminating escort quest length is a bad thing then I don't ever want to be good.

Those escorts are the single most unfun thing to do in the entire game. They're a good laugh the first time but never again! Well maybe if they disabled the NPCs kicking you in the face while you carry them around..

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Let's just say that escort quests in DD are some of the weirdest and most memorable things in the game, and they force you to think more carefully about the environment and where enemies could be lurking than I think I ever have in an RPG, Dark Souls included.

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008
I feel really dumb, but I can't find the option to disable pawn banter. Help me :(

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Wildtortilla posted:

I feel really dumb, but I can't find the option to disable pawn banter. Help me :(
It's not dumb, they hid it very well. At the learning chair, they will randomly ask you "I try to talk or be quiet as the situation dictates...." and if you say "no" their speech rate goes down. Don't try to actually make sense of what they are saying and connect it to a yes/no response, you'll just confuse yourself. Just select "no".

Also it's not a translation issue since the question is just as nonsensical in Japanese.

Turncoat Mommy
Oct 3, 2010

I believe in you.
Where do you pick up your save data bonus bought the game twice things, there was nothing at the inn in the starting town.

Wildtortilla
Jul 8, 2008

Samurai Sanders posted:

It's not dumb, they hid it very well. At the learning chair, they will randomly ask you "I try to talk or be quiet as the situation dictates...." and if you say "no" their speech rate goes down. Don't try to actually make sense of what they are saying and connect it to a yes/no response, you'll just confuse yourself. Just select "no".

Also it's not a translation issue since the question is just as nonsensical in Japanese.

Ah,thanks. I'm still in the tutorial/intro, I guess I'll just tough it out a bit longer.

Infinity Gaia
Feb 27, 2011

a storm is coming...

Wildtortilla posted:

Ah,thanks. I'm still in the tutorial/intro, I guess I'll just tough it out a bit longer.

Note that this only affects your OWN pawn. Other people's pawns? Still wordy as gently caress.

It's not too bad though, eventually it becomes endearing. Wolves hunt in packs and all that.

Tyskil
Jan 28, 2009

Samurai Sanders posted:

Let's just say that escort quests in DD are some of the weirdest and most memorable things in the game, and they force you to think more carefully about the environment and where enemies could be lurking than I think I ever have in an RPG, Dark Souls included.

I hated the escort quests but they sorta grew on me when I got a quest as soon as I got into Gran Soren that wanted me to go to the Greatwall Camp, which required a lot of sneaking around and thinking of how I'm going to get through this really high level area, and then I got there and the greatwall merchant was selling late game equipment :getin:

If someone just tries to fight literally everything between them and the destination though it would be a pretty maddening brick wall to slam your head into.

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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Infinity Gaia posted:

Note that this only affects your OWN pawn. Other people's pawns? Still wordy as gently caress.

It's not too bad though, eventually it becomes endearing. Wolves hunt in packs and all that.
They should have just set it so if you are using some tactic that is completely wrong, like throwing fire magic at hellhounds or something, that's when they speak up.

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