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Haha oh wow I forgot to mention that he COMPLETELY ignores the media's role in all of this too. edit: OK, not completely: quote:There is plenty of blame to go around. I'll even point the finger at myself. Though cognizant of overhyping a player, it's irresponsible not to view myself as a cog in the process. How courageous of him!
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Wait, you mean to tell me that high school and collegiate sports don't consider it their primary mission to contribute to the well-rounded education of children? 
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Mornacale posted:Wait, you mean to tell me that high school and collegiate sports don't consider it their primary mission to contribute to the well-rounded education of children? It's almost as if declaring a kid who just graduated high school a year ago "a guaranteed first round NBA draft pick" might warp his way of thinking somehow! haljordan fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Multi-billion-dollar industries exert social influence on society that is frequently not in line with the values we aspire to?! Well I'll be! e: vvv I'm pretty sure that "kids these days" have been "acting entitled" for the entire span of history. Mornacale fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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By the way, don't a huge majority of kids under age 25 act like entitled shitheads these days? I don't think it's fair to just lambast athletes for this.
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haljordan posted:By the way, don't a huge majority of kids under age 25 act like entitled shitheads these days? I don't think it's fair to just lambast athletes for this. I don't think this is anything new.
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Shitheaddery takes on different forms in the age of social media.
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You guys remember TJ Simers, the guy who did the offensive hatchet job on Marcus Thames? Yeah, well, today his excuse for a column was a poorly-written "humorous" assault on the City of Memphis that was light on basketball analysis and pretty heavy on coded terms: http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-simers-clippers-20130426,0,141433.column quote:It's so violent here they showed a fan dressed in a Clippers T-shirt on the Jumbotron trying to buy a ticket, only to be slapped hard in the face when confronted by the Grizzlies' mascot. If you're gonna try and be funny about that sort of thing, it's probably in your best interest to actually be funny. And if he's doing it to push back on the (admittedly played-out) story of the "hustle-and-grit Grizzlies from a blue-collar city", he probably should've done so in an intelligent manner. But instead Simers is just a loving hack. Pat Clements fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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Geno posted:Ok found it: Maybe the problem isn't the kids, but the whole rotten system that they're fed into? Naaaaah..lets not tear down that monstrosity. davecrazy fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Apr 26, 2013 |
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The Prisoner posted:You guys remember TJ Simers, the guy who did the offensive hatchet job on Marcus Thames? It's kinda heartwarming, though, to see all the LA fans and the Memphis fans come together just to tell Simers to gently caress off and die.
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Anals of History posted:It's kinda heartwarming, though, to see all the LA fans and the Memphis fans come together just to tell Simers to gently caress off and die. TJ Simers: Bringing people together since whenever the gently caress he crawled out of his god forsaken hole. I will be pleased when he retires or dies.
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quote:1. Appreciation I can't believe a professional nationally syndicated writer would put these two paragraphs to words in the modern day. You should appreciate being ruthlessly exploited by the NCAA. When someone else makes millions off of your hard work and effort and offers you a ham sandwich in return it is a privilege not a right.
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The easy and obvious problem with that is in the first sentence: businesses pay their employees.
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Crion posted:The easy and obvious problem with that is in the first sentence: businesses pay their employees. Very true. With that second paragraph I'm not sure if he's talking about basketball players or Spartacus.
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College recruiting is the creepiest drat thing in all of sports.
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Benne posted:College recruiting is the creepiest drat thing in all of sports. No, rumored Soviet abortion doping is the creepiest drat thing, but recruiting is pretty skeevy!
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If Grantland accomplished nothing else, it introduced me to Brian Phillips, who might be my current favorite sportswriter. His most recent long form piece on the Iditarod is fantastic: http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9175394/out-great-alone
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Declan MacManus posted:No, rumored Soviet abortion doping is the creepiest drat thing, but recruiting is pretty skeevy!
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Benne posted:College recruiting is the creepiest drat thing in all of sports. It's up there for sure. Not that there's anything wrong with say Scholarship Athletes in itself. It's cool to see people who may have not had that chance to go to college get that chance. It's also been tremendous for both women going to college, and also their participation It makes me sick to see poo poo like "Signing Day" occur though. Along with High School games being broadcast on National Television, and a few other things that occur on the non-college/pro level. FuzzySkinner fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Apr 29, 2013 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Along with High School games being broadcast on National Television The Little League World Series is more about "well there's gently caress all going on in sports in August" than "ok so which of these 12-year-olds can be major leaguers someday" but the excessive coverage of it still bothers me. It was no big deal when they would show the final game but now even the qualifying games just to get to Williamsport are on TV and on the score ticker and ugh.
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Spoeank posted:If you don't like 12 year olds cracking dingers and obvious 15-16 year olds pitching to them then I don't know what to say. Also the crying after a loss. Yup, nothing creepy about it.
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Declan MacManus posted:No, rumored Soviet abortion doping is the creepiest drat thing, but recruiting is pretty skeevy! I was happier not knowing about this!
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purkey posted:I was happier not knowing about this! If it's any consolation, it's only a rumor, mostly centered around the very real abortions that happened in East Germany because of the (legitimate) fear of deformities due to the sheer amount of PEDs that were being ingested at the time. That's probably not going to make you feel better, huh
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Declan MacManus posted:If it's any consolation, it's only a rumor, mostly centered around the very real abortions that happened in East Germany because of the (legitimate) fear of deformities due to the sheer amount of PEDs that were being ingested at the time. That actually does make me feel better - at least they had the common decency to not want to bring deformed genetic mutants into the world.
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Declan MacManus posted:If it's any consolation, it's only a rumor, mostly centered around the very real abortions that happened in East Germany because of the (legitimate) fear of deformities due to the sheer amount of PEDs that were being ingested at the time. quote:Krieger was systematically doped with steroids from the age of 16 onward. According to Werner Franke and Brigitte Berendonk's 1991 book, Doping: From Research to Deceit, Krieger took almost 2,600 milligrams of steroids in 1986 alone—nearly 1,000 milligrams more than Ben Johnson took during preparations for the 1988 Summer Olympics.
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ElwoodCuse posted:The Little League World Series is more about "well there's gently caress all going on in sports in August" than "ok so which of these 12-year-olds can be major leaguers someday" but the excessive coverage of it still bothers me. It was no big deal when they would show the final game but now even the qualifying games just to get to Williamsport are on TV and on the score ticker and ugh. It's a mixed thing for me. On one hand it's tremendous that athletics for children are being promoted in a very positive way. I think that's a good thing. On the other hand? ESPN shouldn't be covering like it's the loving World Cup/Olympics. I still very distinctly remembering the first weekend of college football being kind of met with shrugged shoulders by ABC/ESPN one year, while Keith Jackson and/or pre-senile/pervert Brent Musburger were being sent to cover that thing. Sorry, but College Football > Little kids playing baseball (unless it's your kid). Have the qualifying games air on Disney Channel, or one of it's affiliates. I think that's a very fair compromise and would better reach the demographic they'd be reaching for.
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Yeah what took you so long to come out of the closet, Doug Collins you coward? I mean, we all know it's so incredibly easy to be a homosexual in a professional locker room. TOOK YA LONG ENOUGH, rear end in a top hat.
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haljordan posted:Yeah what took you so long to come out of the closet, Doug Collins you coward? I mean, we all know it's so incredibly easy to be a homosexual in a professional locker room. TOOK YA LONG ENOUGH, rear end in a top hat. Holy gently caress, those commenters.
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morestuff posted:Holy gently caress, those commenters. quote:They dont call Obama the gay-prez for naught - he's coming out next ... The best.
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ElwoodCuse posted:The Little League World Series is more about "well there's gently caress all going on in sports in August" than "ok so which of these 12-year-olds can be major leaguers someday" but the excessive coverage of it still bothers me. It was no big deal when they would show the final game but now even the qualifying games just to get to Williamsport are on TV and on the score ticker and ugh. Fun fact: Jurickson Profar played in two Little League World Series for Curaçao, and even at age 12 kid could rake.
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Posted without comment:quote:"I'm a Christian. I don't agree with homosexuality. I think it's a sin, as I think all sex outside of marriage between a man and a woman is. [ESPN's] L.Z. [Granderson] knows that. He and I have played on basketball teams together for several years. We've gone out, had lunch together, we've had good conversations, good laughs together. He knows where I stand and I know where he stands. I don't criticize him, he doesn't criticize me, and call me a bigot, call me ignorant, call me intolerant.
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Please get fired Chris please get fired please get fired
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chunkles posted:Please get fired Chris please get fired please get fired
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Crazy Ted posted:That would likely just mean more airtime for Stephen A. Smith and Ric Bucher so be very careful what you wish for. I thought Bucher got fired from ESPN, he got another chance?
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I think that comment from Broussard is pretty alright unless I'm misunderstanding it. I'm reading it as him saying that he thinks homosexuality is wrong, but that he's not going to give you poo poo about living your life, just like you shouldn't give him poo poo for his opinions that he knows people disagree with. "Believe what you want, just don't be an rear end in a top hat about it" sounds like a reasonable thing to preach. I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, but I think people have the right to feel that there is, as long as they don't go around shouting human being at people and protesting gay marriage.
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ZerodotJander posted:I think that comment from Broussard is pretty alright unless I'm misunderstanding it. I'm reading it as him saying that he thinks homosexuality is wrong, but that he's not going to give you poo poo about living your life, just like you shouldn't give him poo poo for his opinions that he knows people disagree with. "Believe what you want, just don't be an rear end in a top hat about it" sounds like a reasonable thing to preach. I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, but I think people have the right to feel that there is, as long as they don't go around shouting human being at people and protesting gay marriage. That quote is him actively giving gay people poo poo for living their lives. Also, the idea that it's okay to believe odious poo poo, as if ideology has no relationship to the real world, is toxic as hell.
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ZerodotJander posted:I think that comment from Broussard is pretty alright unless I'm misunderstanding it. I'm reading it as him saying that he thinks homosexuality is wrong, but that he's not going to give you poo poo about living your life, just like you shouldn't give him poo poo for his opinions that he knows people disagree with. "Believe what you want, just don't be an rear end in a top hat about it" sounds like a reasonable thing to preach. I don't think there's anything wrong with being gay, but I think people have the right to feel that there is, as long as they don't go around shouting human being at people and protesting gay marriage. There is actually something wrong with thinking gay people are agents of evil living in defiance of God, it's called being a bigot?
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