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Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

Linedance posted:

I don't recognise it, but I'm avionics. A couple of coworkers who are mechanician types said "that's not a loving landing gear, what the gently caress part of a landing gear looks like that? That's a loving inboard flap actuator. People see a loving big lump of metal and immediately think landing gear" when they looked at the picture. There may have been more cursing, I'm paraphrasing.

Me, personally, I think it's part of a window cleaning rig.

Why hasn't NYPD figured it out :ughh:

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Megillah Gorilla: Sep 22, 2003; If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.; Bread Liar

But does it really matter in the long run?

It's not like the cops are going to look at the tangled mess of metal and say, "By Jove, Watson! It was Miss Emily Pickingson with the hedge combobulators after all. Quick, to the steam jitney!"

It'll be, "Yep, it's from 9/11. Stick it on the pile." They won't be in any real rush to do anything with it.

# ? Apr 28, 2013 13:09

Finger Prince: Jan 5, 2007

Gorilla Salad posted:

But does it really matter in the long run?

It's not like the cops are going to look at the tangled mess of metal and say, "By Jove, Watson! It was Miss Emily Pickingson with the hedge combobulators after all. Quick, to the steam jitney!"

It'll be, "Yep, it's from 9/11. Stick it on the pile." They won't be in any real rush to do anything with it.

Of course it doesn't, but the news is all "This Is Significant" and people are going "ooh, landing gear!" "yes, landing gear... Significant! " without really knowing anything about anything, so I figure I might as well get in on that sweet sweet speculation action.

# ? Apr 28, 2013 13:56

bloops: Dec 31, 2010; Thanks Ape Pussy!

Ya it'll really crack open the case on what took those planes down.

# ? Apr 28, 2013 14:03

Alereon: Feb 6, 2004; Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed; College Slice

Well it is a "significant finding" because they will probably find human remains long with the debris, which may provide some measure of closure to someone's family. It's also kind of interesting that something like that would still be out there after more than 10 years when they did such extensive searching and cleanup after 9/11.

# ? Apr 28, 2013 14:56

monkeytennis: Apr 26, 2007; Toilet Rascal

It's part of the missile launcher that was attached to the belly of one of the airliners, the Boeing serial is a red herring. Probably planted there by Obama a few weeks ago when they found out the site was going to be a mosque. :tinfoil:

# ? Apr 28, 2013 15:03

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

holocaust bloopers posted:

Ya it'll really crack open the case on what took those planes down.

Apparently the police have two suspects. Here they are in a lineup:

# ? Apr 28, 2013 15:05

Nebakenezzer: Sep 13, 2005; The Mote in God's Eye

Godholio posted:

Apparently the police have two suspects. Here they are in a lineup:

Now I'm picturing the whole thing as a Colombo episode.

# ? Apr 28, 2013 15:43

MohawkSatan: Dec 20, 2008; by Cyrano4747

Nebakenezzer posted:

Now I'm picturing the whole thing as a Colombo episode.

That would be amazing to watch.

# ? Apr 28, 2013 16:02

CroatianAlzheimers: Jun 15, 2009; I can't remember why I'm mad at you...

"Just one more thing, Mr. Atta..."

# ? Apr 28, 2013 17:10

galliumscan: Dec 25, 2006; Dammit, Jim, I'm an engineer, not a doctor! No, wait...

Magugu posted:

One of my Favorite aircraft Is the F-82 Twin Mustang. Take one of the most epic aircraft in history and double it. There is one on static display at Lackland AFB in San Antonio (along with an sr-71).

Way back when, it was easy for anyone to just drive on base to see this display. Is that even possible today?

# ? Apr 28, 2013 22:48

Blistex: Oct 30, 2003; Macho Business
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Gorilla Salad posted:

But does it really matter in the long run?

It's not like the cops are going to look at the tangled mess of metal and say, "By Jove, Watson! It was Miss Emily Pickingson with the hedge combobulators after all. Quick, to the steam jitney!"

It'll be, "Yep, it's from 9/11. Stick it on the pile." They won't be in any real rush to do anything with it.

It will prove that the 911 hijackers were actually trying to land on top of the WTC buildings!

# ? Apr 29, 2013 16:31

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

galliumscan posted:

Way back when, it was easy for anyone to just drive on base to see this display. Is that even possible today?

I haven't been there since 2005, so I don't know what the setup is now. If it's inside the gate, no. Usually they try to arrange these air parks so you can access it from outside the base (ie, they move the fenceline so the park is outside).

# ? Apr 29, 2013 17:58

pbpancho: Feb 17, 2004; -=International Sales=-

Godholio posted:

I haven't been there since 2005, so I don't know what the setup is now. If it's inside the gate, no. Usually they try to arrange these air parks so you can access it from outside the base (ie, they move the fenceline so the park is outside).

It's inside the gate, although JUST inside if I remember right.

# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:16

Slo-Tek: Jun 8, 2001; WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

It's an airplane, it counts:

16 second powered flight, made Mach 1.2

# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:23

dayman: Mar 12, 2009; Is it a yes, or...

Is the second photo also a render? If not, I just popped the biggest private space venture boner right now.

# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:36

babyeatingpsychopath: Oct 28, 2000; Forum Veteran

Slo-Tek posted:

It's an airplane, it counts:

16 second powered flight, made Mach 1.2

I'm not going to lie. If I had unlimited funds, I would be launching commercial rockets as often as possible. I would then fly to the moon and come back.

Why can't the lottery get up to $2B?

# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:38

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

dayman posted:

Is the second photo also a render? If not, I just popped the biggest private space venture boner right now.

Looks like an extreme zoom.

# ? Apr 29, 2013 19:42

Slo-Tek: Jun 8, 2001; WINDOWS 98 BEAT HIS FRIEND WITH A SHOVEL

dayman posted:

Is the second photo also a render? If not, I just popped the biggest private space venture boner right now.

Neither are renders. The first one is a wide-angle somewhat underexposed shot from a camera mounted on the tail during today's power test, and the second is from a MARS telescope tracking ground station...which gives it that 70's look, since shooting through 70,000' of air is pretty much the same as it was in the 70's.

Still waiting on air-to-air shots. The Proteus chase plane isn't an ideal photographic platform, but maybe there was something.

# ? Apr 29, 2013 20:01

blugu64: Jul 17, 2006; Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

Godholio posted:

I haven't been there since 2005, so I don't know what the setup is now. If it's inside the gate, no. Usually they try to arrange these air parks so you can access it from outside the base (ie, they move the fenceline so the park is outside).

It's inside. http://goo.gl/maps/qyLQF

# ? Apr 29, 2013 20:18

ctishman: Apr 26, 2005; Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!

Okay, I was browsing around your link and I've found another stumper nearby:

Who the hell's plane is this?

It says "People's Democra-" on it (the rest is inside the hangar). From what I can see, it has the emblem of some nation painted on the side, but I can't pinpoint a match with the flag of any nation that has "People's Democratic" in its name.

So whose plane is this?

# ? Apr 30, 2013 06:27

joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

ctishman posted:

Okay, I was browsing around your link and I've found another stumper nearby:

Who the hell's plane is this?

It says "People's Democra-" on it (the rest is inside the hangar). From what I can see, it has the emblem of some nation painted on the side, but I can't pinpoint a match with the flag of any nation that has "People's Democratic" in its name.

So whose plane is this?

The People's Democratic Republic of Algeria.

It's flying (backwards) with the wind.

# ? Apr 30, 2013 06:39

StandardVC10: Feb 6, 2007; This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

ctishman posted:

Okay, I was browsing around your link and I've found another stumper nearby:

Who the hell's plane is this?

It says "People's Democra-" on it (the rest is inside the hangar). From what I can see, it has the emblem of some nation painted on the side, but I can't pinpoint a match with the flag of any nation that has "People's Democratic" in its name.

So whose plane is this?

Looks like an Airbus A340-500. Algeria or Tunisia, most likely.

edit: grahhh!

# ? Apr 30, 2013 06:39

EightBit: Jan 7, 2006; I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

ctishman posted:

Okay, I was browsing around your link and I've found another stumper nearby:

Who the hell's plane is this?

It says "People's Democra-" on it (the rest is inside the hangar). From what I can see, it has the emblem of some nation painted on the side, but I can't pinpoint a match with the flag of any nation that has "People's Democratic" in its name.

So whose plane is this?

Possibly a mirror-image of Algeria's flag?

e;f,b

# ? Apr 30, 2013 06:41

Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

Turn it off the 45 degree angle to see the paint stripped? What is that?

# ? Apr 30, 2013 06:45

D C: Jun 20, 2004; 1-800-HOTLINEBLING
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ctishman posted:

Okay, I was browsing around your link and I've found another stumper nearby:

Who the hell's plane is this?

It says "People's Democra-" on it (the rest is inside the hangar). From what I can see, it has the emblem of some nation painted on the side, but I can't pinpoint a match with the flag of any nation that has "People's Democratic" in its name.

So whose plane is this?

I spent WAY to long researching this

Threw me off cause it looks super teal in the picture and I wrote off Algeria off the bat.

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:07

ctishman: Apr 26, 2005; Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!

Hey, thanks though. Algeria, huh. I thought I already searched all the "People's Democratic Republics" I even went to the CIA World Factbook to look up flags and didn't spot it. Yeah, the teal threw me off, too.

ctishman fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Apr 30, 2013

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:18

joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

CharlesM posted:

Turn it off the 45 degree angle to see the paint stripped? What is that?

Some flavor of A340?

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:19

Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

What I mean is, how does it end up looking like that?

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:22

ctishman: Apr 26, 2005; Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!

joat mon posted:

Some flavor of A340?

Looking at the older view, the paint's off and it's using an older type of engine. I'm pretty sure it's the same plane, but it seems to be undergoing an upfit at a US AFB for some reason.

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:30

Finger Prince: Jan 5, 2007

CharlesM posted:

What I mean is, how does it end up looking like that?

I think it's two different aircraft. The overhead shot looks like it's wearing cfm56 engines, the angle looks like trent 700s. There's also a stand visible on the back on the overhead that isn't there on the angle shot. As for why the overhead shot looks stripped, that hangar is probably a painting facility, so it probably is paint stripped, even if I'm wrong about the first part and it is the same plane.

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:35

joat mon: Oct 15, 2009; I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

It's at Gore Design Completions, which does gaudy interior refits.

According to them,
"The only thing we don�t do is paint the exterior of the plane."

# ? Apr 30, 2013 07:50

Kia Soul Enthusias: May 9, 2004; zoom-zoom; Toilet Rascal

Well, if it was having the interior overhauled, it was probably getting ready to have the exterior overhauled too. Neat. You can also see the top down view is newer; the hangar has become a little longer.

On the Bing Bird's Eye view there is another 4-engine jet with Arabic or Farsi.
http://binged.it/ZTbq9d

# ? Apr 30, 2013 10:51

blugu64: Jul 17, 2006; Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

joat mon posted:

It's at Gore Design Completions, which does gaudy interior refits.

According to them,
"The only thing we don�t do is paint the exterior of the plane."

One day I'll be rich enough to face the couch nearest the TV away from the TV.

# ? Apr 30, 2013 15:38

EightBit: Jan 7, 2006; I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

blugu64 posted:

One day I'll be rich enough to face the couch nearest the TV away from the TV.

Wealthy people don't know what to do with tvs, so they put them in the weirdest and most awkward places for reasons unknown to us plebs. I've mounted untold plasma tvs >6' up fireplaces.

# ? Apr 30, 2013 16:07

SybilVimes: Oct 29, 2011

EightBit posted:

Wealthy people don't know what to do with tvs, so they put them in the weirdest and most awkward places for reasons unknown to us plebs. I've mounted untold plasma tvs >6' up fireplaces.

It's intentional, it's basically 'Look at the expensive electronics I can afford... yet I'm so important that I don't have time to use it', at least according to a rich psychiatrist who I asked about her TV 6' above the fireplace.

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