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Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

it's the FREDGARVIN thread

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I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Ten Count: who would you have play a Vince Russo analogue in a mockumentary about 1999-2000 WCW?

The Goog
Aug 6, 2007

It's a Goog Day, yes it is!

Cowboy Bobs Hep C posted:

Ten Count: I can't think of an actual question right now, but could you pick two wrestlers with your Random 'Rassler Roulette wheel and discuss how a theoretical feud/match would be?


I Before E posted:

Ten Count: who would you have play a Vince Russo analogue in a mockumentary about 1999-2000 WCW?

We have a full slate (more than full, actually) of questions, and I expect to get at least a couple of topics from tonight's Raw. These will go in the queue; they might not be answered this week, but they will get on the show.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."
Holy crap this Gabe stuff is incredible.

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END
Indulge us behind the paywall, fellas. Screencaps and/or text would be appreciated.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I was amused to see I made Gabe admit that Jerry Lynn had two notable ROH title defenses other than the match with Roddy. I wonder if he was whispering "gently caress you for this" under his breath as he agreed.

Here's a direct link to the thread: http://theboard.f4wonline.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=159894

I could see some of those posts getting him ousted from DGUSA.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Basically, one dude says that "FREDGARVIN" is Gabe. Apparently there is heat between Gabe and Alvarez from Mania weekend?

Anyway they go on to repost all these FREDGARVIN posts where he is putting over "Gabe's work with ROH" and just burying the product post-Gabe. To the point where it's pretty comical.

"dave me if I'm wrong. But what the mouth breathers fail to realize is that Heyman and Sapolsky did a HELLUVA LOT MORE than what Russo and now Bischoff have done with TNA. With TNA having a HELLUVA LOT MORE advantages when it comes to exposure than ECW and ROH did."

"A friend of mine loaned me his copy of Death before Dishonor VIII. A very strong "gently caress You, Tyler" chant at the beginning of the match. You should have been fired a long time ago, Pearce. And you should never have any influence on booking decisions, Cary.

An absolute disgrace what this promotion has become. Pathetic."

"ROH sucks a big fat dick now."

Apparently the guy who started the thread has "confirmation from a source from Alvarez himself" that it's Gabe.

Now get a subscription you freeloaders :colbert:

dsriggs
May 28, 2012

MONEY FALLS...

...FROM THE SKY...

...WHENEVER HE POSTS!
Todd "Thunder" O'Shea, no less.

oldfan
Jul 22, 2007

"Mathewson pitched against Cincinnati yesterday. Another way of putting it is that Cincinnati lost a game of baseball."
"FredGarvin" also posted in the porn forum so if you ever wanted to know the proclivities of your favorite wrestling booker, they're there.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

It's actually LESS pathetic at this point if it's really Gabe. If it's not Gabe, someone is a loving weirdo.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
He sure writes in a similar fashion to Gabe and has some of the same observations on ROH shows like Anarchy in the UK. I wish I was still in grad school, some of the plagiarism detection software and other writing analysis software would probably confirm those similarities pretty quickly.

quote:

I guess the thought that Silkin has an axe to grind with Gabe has not entered some people's minds. Gabe (rightly so) denied Cary creative control over ROH. But I guess putting the belt on Jerry Lynn and all the other stupid poo poo ROH did after sacking Gabe were wise business decisions................

Stuff like this about Cary comes off very personally and I don't think I remember hearing the thing about creative control elsewhere, but I may be wrong.

This quote also seemed noteworthy:

quote:

truthslayer wrote: LOLing at RF Video sending out a newsletter with links to Gabe's two iPPV's this weekend with his affiliate links in the e-mails. Suppose that's the purpose, but just funny considering the two parties and who's looking for the kickback.

thinuse wrote:


The thing is it also looks like Gabe gave out his email list to RF gabe will never get my money again.

fredgarvin wrote:

Cary sold ROH. Why not sell his email list to make another buck on the way out?


MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Apr 29, 2013

Strenuous Manflurry
Sep 5, 2006

THE END
I'll be goddamned. I remember getting a RF Videos email out of the blue a long time ago, and Gabe going "Well, it wasn't me! I would NEVER do such a thing". I think it was right around the time Gabe got fired, too.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Strenuous Manflurry posted:

I'll be goddamned. I remember getting a RF Videos email out of the blue a long time ago, and Gabe going "Well, it wasn't me! I would NEVER do such a thing". I think it was right around the time Gabe got fired, too.

Same here.

I also found absolute proof it is Gabe:

fredgarvin posted:

I was a big fan of the Resilience/NRC feud, so I absolutely loved the first part of the match where Aries and Stevens' hatred for Davey Richards took precedence over the tension between the two as they teamed together to put some hurting on Davey. Good stuff from start to finish in this one.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



How did Bryan make Gabe mad on Wrestlemania weekend?
Reporting the iPPV problems and that the crowd left early to make WWE shows ontime?
I thought he really liked what he saw.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

How did Bryan make Gabe mad on Wrestlemania weekend?
Reporting the iPPV problems and that the crowd left early to make WWE shows ontime?
I thought he really liked what he saw.

I don't know much about Gabe, but apparently he takes any criticism really personally?

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Gabe got really mad at everyone who reported the IPPV problems. 411mania did a show report where they said that the first half a card was unwatchable, so Gabe sent in a huge email about how they shouldn't judge his promotion on technical issues, and it totally wasn't their fault. When someone gets mad about what 411 says, maybe its time to admit you can't take criticism.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Skinty McEdger posted:

where they said that the first half a card was unwatchable, so Gabe sent in a huge email about how they shouldn't judge his promotion on technical issues

This is the Gabe-est thing I've ever heard.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



It's Gabe's streaming company!
That falls on DGUSA much more than problems for Kaiju or Shimmer.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

It's Gabe's streaming company!
That falls on DGUSA much more than problems for Kaiju or Shimmer.

It wasn't his fault though, to be fair. Not that it excuses him being a huge bitch about it, but the issue for the Evolve card at least was that the people hired to set up the connection showed up too late to test everything before it went live.

Gabe is a douche though and anyone with a brain would've put one of the unaired shows on first for that very reason.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT
I howled with laughter at Dave's rant on TNA yesterday. He is so frustrated.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

Jack Krauser posted:

I howled with laughter at Dave's rant on TNA yesterday. He is so frustrated.
Which show was this? One of the MMA ones? I don't listen to those, but that sounds great.

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT

LividLiquid posted:

Which show was this? One of the MMA ones? I don't listen to those, but that sounds great.

Yesterday's Observer Radio with Mike.

PaybackJack
May 21, 2003

You'll hit your head and say: 'Boy, how stupid could I have been. A moron could've figured this out. I must be a real dimwit. A pathetic nimnal. A wretched idiotic excuse for a human being for not having figured these simple puzzles out in the first place...As usual, you've been a real pantload!
I love it when Bryan is sick and we get 90+ minute Dave and Mike shows.

Perigryn
Oct 22, 2010

TaJaaaaadoruuuuu
Man, that Twin Magic/reality show discussion on today's Observer Radio went nowhere.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy
Dave mentioned a "play by play of the Hogan sex tape"

3..2...1... go!

I'll start:

quote:

started strong, some bad work in the middle, sloppy finish. **1/2

edit:

Skinty McEdger posted:

Gabe got really mad at everyone who reported the IPPV problems. 411mania did a show report where they said that the first half a card was unwatchable, so Gabe sent in a huge email about how they shouldn't judge his promotion on technical issues, and it totally wasn't their fault. When someone gets mad about what 411 says, maybe its time to admit you can't take criticism.

I will say, I'm a fan of DC Sniper. He along with Vinny have had shout outs on ROH ppvs.

The Goog
Aug 6, 2007

It's a Goog Day, yes it is!
Sorry the Ten Count is a few hours late this week; I didn't start editing it until after the insane 19-inning Angels/A's game.



I was joined by HulkaMatt, MRT and KFG for a sprawling discussion that touched on The Wall, Adolf Hitler, @mongo_ebooks and, very briefly, professional wrestling.

Topics: 1. Big E Langston's historic first loss
2. WRESTLER OF THE WEEK: Prince Devitt
3. What's the difference between a crowd having fun and trying to get itself over?
4. Has a gimmick change ever killed your interest in a wrestler you used to like?
5. What's going on with WWE's midcard title scene?
6. If Terry Funk came out of retirement to wrestle just one more match, who should he face?
7. FEUD OF THE WEEK: Jeff Jarrett vs. Hulk Hogan
8. HYPOTHETICAL QUESTION TIME: What if Owen Hart didn't break Steve Austin's neck in 1997?
9. What wrestler(s) did you love as a child, but then look back and wonder why?
10. "MRT, you wanna be on the Ten Count?" "Only if we talk about Gabe."


Also, if you haven't, give us a sub on iTunes. We're pretty cool there, too.

Draga
Dec 9, 2011

WASHI JA!
What was going on around 17 minutes in? Kinda went crazy there.

Riotgrrill
Sep 3, 2004

The Waltman interviews have been some of the best stuff MLW has done and I really recommend everyone to check it out. Dude is both really intelligent and inspirational.

The Goog
Aug 6, 2007

It's a Goog Day, yes it is!

Draga posted:

What was going on around 17 minutes in? Kinda went crazy there.

When I was editing, that was the original placement of the flashback that happens around 20 minutes in. I had to move it right before exporting, and accidentally copied instead of cutting, so it plays where I initially had it as well as where it ends up. I also didn't save the project file, so in order to fix it I'd have to re-edit the entire show, and that quite simply isn't going to happen.

Basically I hosed up and made a stupid mistake. :bang:

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Dude, it's 30 seconds of the podcast, don't worry about it at all.

edit: also, that question about Austin not getting his neck broken: apparently I skimmed the Owen Hart page on wikipedia and didn't realise the entry about the tag title match from May 1997 wasn't about the Owendriver match. I am bad at internet.

Memento fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Apr 30, 2013

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Perigryn posted:

Man, that Twin Magic/reality show discussion on today's Observer Radio went nowhere.

You know it's a boring Raw when that discussion gets the most time.

Edit: I also enjoyed Dave's looping opinion on Orton/Orton Sr. Randy is TOTALLY a better worker, Bob has no charisma, ok Bob has Charisma, ok Bob & Macho Man were way ahead of the curve when it comes to matches.

Grant DaNasty
Jul 17, 2006

If you want hear something bizarre listen to the new Steve Austin Show: Austin vs the Fly. It's Austin and a house fly (which sounds like Austin talking into a fan) cutting promos on each other and then having a wrestling match where Austin commentates.

Space Cob
Jan 24, 2006

a pilot on fire is not fit to fly

Hulkamatt laughing is one of my favorite things. Thanks for the new ep!

oatgan
Jan 15, 2009

The correct answer is Terry Funk vs Super Dragon btw

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

MRT is wrong about Dr. Doom Cody, because Dr. Doom Cody owns.

CombineThresher
Apr 10, 2006

GIT R DONNE

oatgan posted:

The correct answer is Terry Funk vs Darkness Crabtree

Fixed that for you. Seeing Funk in Chikara would be fun no matter what he did.

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Was the 10 Count hosed up or was the theme music returning and playing over conversations a really horrible way to cut to new segments?

Draga
Dec 9, 2011

WASHI JA!

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Was the 10 Count hosed up or was the theme music returning and playing over conversations a really horrible way to cut to new segments?

The Goog posted:

When I was editing, that was the original placement of the flashback that happens around 20 minutes in. I had to move it right before exporting, and accidentally copied instead of cutting, so it plays where I initially had it as well as where it ends up. I also didn't save the project file, so in order to fix it I'd have to re-edit the entire show, and that quite simply isn't going to happen.

Arbite
Nov 4, 2009





DDP is doing God's work but man, every one of his interviews is identically blah.

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Nut Bunnies
May 24, 2005

Fun Shoe

MassRanTer posted:

Same here.

I also found absolute proof it is Gabe:

You could just stop after the first sentence and know it's him, but going into analysis about why a match from flop of a feud from 2007 just sends it over the top.

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