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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Injustice: Gods Among Us 16 I'm not finding this touching or inspiring, sadly. However, I always loved this splash page from Maximum Carnage. Spidey has been beat down. He's lying in the dirt, collapsed, lacking the will even to get up. When suddenly he hears a voice: "Do you need a hand, son?"  "You look like you could use it." EDIT to unbreak tables. JohnnyCanuck fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Apr 30, 2013 |
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That Injustice part was...bad. I can understand the emotion of Batman losing his son (hell it just happened very recently) but the way it was executed in Injustice made it seem, well, stupid as gently caress.
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Apr 30, 2013 20:36
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Like every other company has made gritty Superman and Batman already, so when DC does it themselves, it's just really weird.
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Apr 30, 2013 21:19
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It's not even that gritty, just kinda depressing. Dick's death was dumb but poo poo, real people have died in dumber ways. I think the entire theme of the comic is unforeseen consequences.
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Apr 30, 2013 21:35
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Injustice: Gods Among Us 16 I can't imagine how this scene could be more poorly conveyed. Going from Dick and Damian arguing to Batman wallowing in tragedy in the space of 2 pages is the kind of pacing I'd expect from the silver age. And that death would be loving stupid if it happened to me, nevermind Batman's most experienced student/the most agile crimefighter in the DCU.
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Apr 30, 2013 21:45
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Chaos Hippy posted:I can't imagine how this scene could be more poorly conveyed. Going from Dick and Damian arguing to Batman wallowing in tragedy in the space of 2 pages is the kind of pacing I'd expect from the silver age. There's more pages in the actual comic.
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Apr 30, 2013 21:49
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Injustice: Gods Among Us 16 This just reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxzRfW3gMJA
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Apr 30, 2013 22:01
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I just can't take Batman clutching his head screaming "What did you do?!" like that at all seriously. It looks so ridiculous, especially in that art style.
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Apr 30, 2013 22:04
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I'm not getting touched or inspired by "Nightwing gets chumped by Robin's temper tantrum, trips on a rock and dies". More of a Three Stooges vibe. If that's all it takes to kill a superhero in the Injustice universe, most of the loving JLA are gonna get taken out by a flight of slightly rickety stairs.
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Apr 30, 2013 22:08
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JohnnyCanuck posted:I'm not finding this touching or inspiring, sadly.
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Apr 30, 2013 22:50
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From what I've seen of it so far (which is basically just the scans posted in this thread), is Injustice supposed to be some kind of huge middle finger to everyone who was ever a fan of the Justice League or DC superheroes in general? Because that's what it's coming across as so far.
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Apr 30, 2013 23:15
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W.T. Fits posted:From what I've seen of it so far (which is basically just the scans posted in this thread), is Injustice supposed to be some kind of huge middle finger to everyone who was ever a fan of the Justice League or DC superheroes in general?
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Apr 30, 2013 23:33
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W.T. Fits posted:From what I've seen of it so far (which is basically just the scans posted in this thread), is Injustice supposed to be some kind of huge middle finger to everyone who was ever a fan of the Justice League or DC superheroes in general? From what I gather, the game's plot is "Due to Lois and Metropolis getting blowed up, Superman and Wonder Woman become assholes, Batman gets real League from regular continuity to come and kick butt." The tie-in comic is just going a LONG way to get to a pretty stock end-point.
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Apr 30, 2013 23:33
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Yeah, if you want you can watch the cutscenes of Injustice in one big 2 hour block on Youtube and it plays like an average direct-to-DVD DC movie, about on par with Earth-2 or Doom (that is to say a decent, if not pallid, echo of JL/JLU masked up as a "tribute" to fans of it). That said it does have the narrative wisdom to skip over all the table-setting to make the evil dystopian world a shithole and just drops the heroes into the middle of it. The comic on the other hand, has shown me nothing but garbage.
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Apr 30, 2013 23:37
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Injustice is just a bad attempt at making back story for a dumb fighting game story. They aren't trying to piss anyone off, but oh my god is it hilarious how dumb it is.
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Apr 30, 2013 23:37
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If only Nightwing had been sensible like Batman and worn a helmet then this would never have happened.
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Apr 30, 2013 23:55
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The comic's not great but anyone trying to say the game's story is better is just... that's like saying Super Friends had better writing than JLU.
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Apr 30, 2013 23:55
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Chaos Hippy posted:I can't imagine how this scene could be more poorly conveyed. Going from Dick and Damian arguing to Batman wallowing in tragedy in the space of 2 pages is the kind of pacing I'd expect from the silver age. And that death would be loving stupid if it happened to me, nevermind Batman's most experienced student/the most agile crimefighter in the DCU. The scene they're in the middle of is beating other guys into comas. There's like 70 years of exactly that in superhero comics and yet they still hosed it up. I'm honestly kind of impressed with how stupid it is.
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May 1, 2013 00:11
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The thing that bothers me the most about it is how all the villains, who were previously rioting and basically trying to kill everyone they could get their hands on, just stop fighting. Are we seriously going to do the "Oh no! Even the bad guys know that something terrible has happened and feel Bruce's pain!" thing when they're the ones constantly trying to kill him and his family?
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May 1, 2013 01:56
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Darth Nat posted:The thing that bothers me the most about it is how all the villains, who were previously rioting and basically trying to kill everyone they could get their hands on, just stop fighting. Are we seriously going to do the "Oh no! Even the bad guys know that something terrible has happened and feel Bruce's pain!" thing when they're the ones constantly trying to kill him and his family? Man I think even Killer Croc and Two-face know that it's kinda hosed up that a kid just killed his older 'brother' by accident. Plus they're probably scared shitless that if they keep fighting, Batman is gonna snap and take their head off.
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May 1, 2013 01:57
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JohnnyCanuck posted:I'm not finding this touching or inspiring, sadly. Well, this thread has pretty much been the catch-all thread for "things that evoke feelings beyond 'cool!' or 'rad!'" for a while.
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May 1, 2013 01:59
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Lurdiak posted:The comic's not great but anyone trying to say the game's story is better is just... that's like saying Super Friends had better writing than JLU. Again, compared to the average writing of a direct-to-DVD DCU movie--especially those with similar ideas like DOOM or Earth-2--it's actually about on par. It helps a lot that the VAs are either solid stalwarts of JL/JLU voice-acting or talented VAs in general.
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May 1, 2013 02:00
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ImpAtom posted:I just can't take Batman clutching his head screaming "What did you do?!" like that at all seriously. It looks so ridiculous, especially in that art style. Oh man, I kind of want that as an avatar. Crop it down to just Batman holding his head, put "WHAT DID YOU DO?!" as the text. TO PAINT!
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May 1, 2013 02:00
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:Oh man, I kind of want that as an avatar.  Knock yourself out.
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May 1, 2013 02:14
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Saoshyant posted:
Awesome, thanks! I've been meaning to ditch my red text for a while anyway.
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May 1, 2013 02:23
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Lurdiak posted:It's not even that gritty, just kinda depressing. Dick's death was dumb but poo poo, real people have died in dumber ways. I think the entire theme of the comic is unforeseen consequences. That's basically the premise of the last Mortal Kombat's storyline (Rayden does stuff, fucks up massively) and the game's by the same people. I'm not sure who made the outline of the comic/game's storyline in this case, though.
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May 1, 2013 04:03
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Lurdiak posted:There's more pages in the actual comic. Yeah, it really doesn't do the comic any favors when you take a 7-page sequence and show the first, second, fifth and seventh page.
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May 1, 2013 04:03
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ImpAtom posted:I just can't take Batman clutching his head screaming "What did you do?!" like that at all seriously. It looks so ridiculous, especially in that art style. In Injustice the game proper it was actually done pretty ok, just a quick bit with Batman going 'no, that's not Damien killed Dick, he was the one I saw as my son', kinda out of left field but decently voiced and Batman kept his stoic 'so now I'm gonna kick Damien's rear end up and down this street' look on. Also, Dick Grayson, world's finest acrobat.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Injustice: Gods Among Us 16 Okay. I will give you THIS EXACT MUCH. The inmates and the superheroes just stopping to let him do his thing? That would have been kinda touching, kinda like that scene in the second Nolan Batman movie where that big, grizzled motherfucker tosses the remote out of the window. It would even serve the plot, showing there's still some humanity in the superdicks and showing why Batman might want to protect the inmates. But oh my god, the stuff before it belongs in the Papa Spank thread. I literally laughed out loud. vv(Whoops, you are correct. Laughter doth not help one remember details) Midnight Voyager fucked around with this message at 07:16 on May 1, 2013 |
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May 1, 2013 07:09
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^^^^ I think you are thinking of The Dark Knight, not the very first Batman movie. That death is stupid and so is this derail. Here is something from the last issue of Planetary, which could also be posted here in its entirety. Pardon the tags though. The entire last issue deals with what really happened to Ambrose, the Planetary agent with reality altering abilities who was seemingly killed in a flashback that transpired a year or two before the series. Using the newfound tech they gained from the prior issue, the team discovers that he actually locked himself in a stopped time bubble to keep himself from bleeding out. The Drummer postulates that constructing a time machine around the area Ambrose made the time bubble in would cause it to 'burst', freeing him. However, this is not entirely a good thing... http://imgur.com/FfnWSwx http://imgur.com/TgkAJP4 Some time later, the Drummer tries to talk Elijah out of it one more time. http://imgur.com/iJ0bHgI
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May 1, 2013 07:11
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Alright, let's actually try for some level of touching here to get that out of my brain. This always hit me as a particularly human sort of touching moment in a very... well, inhuman situation. It's what hooked me on Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol in the first place. Cliff has a problem. He lost his body in a car crash. Will Magnus (creator of the Metal Men) made him a metal body, so he handled it for a while by being a superhero.   It isn't enough anymore. So while he tries to solve the physical side of this problem, Magnus gives Cliff something else to think about.    
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May 1, 2013 07:33
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Lurdiak posted:Man I think even Killer Croc and Two-face know that it's kinda hosed up that a kid just killed his older 'brother' by accident. Plus they're probably scared shitless that if they keep fighting, Batman is gonna snap and take their head off.
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May 1, 2013 13:57
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gfanikf posted:Speaking of Batman, have there ever been any modernish what if, one off, mini series, that explored what of Batman didn't have his one rule. Essentially he is a rich rear end Frank Castle, but still Batman/Bruce Wayne, he just kills. I don't think it got it's own one off, but in one of the series that dealt with multiple Earths or whatever, there was a Batman that went the complete other way on guns and just killed all of the serious criminals and there was only a few 'super' super heroes that just helped out with disasters and such. It was painted as an idyllic place so of course it was probably casually destroyed
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May 1, 2013 15:20
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Midnight Voyager posted:Alright, let's actually try for some level of touching here to get that out of my brain. This always hit me as a particularly human sort of touching moment in a very... well, inhuman situation. It's what hooked me on Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol in the first place. I spoke to Grant Morrison about how I think that the relationship between Cliff and Crazy Jane is one of the purest expressions of love in comics. You could post so many of the moments in their relationship here, and make a little bit happier, and a little bit sadder the lives of so many strangers.
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gfanikf posted:Speaking of Batman, have there ever been any modernish what if, one off, mini series, that explored what of Batman didn't have his one rule. Essentially he is a rich rear end Frank Castle, but still Batman/Bruce Wayne, he just kills. I seem to remember Countdown had a segment where Red Hood found a world where Batman went into Frank Castle mode after the Death in the Family situation. But I barely read that series, so I don't know the details.
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May 1, 2013 17:57
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gfanikf posted:Speaking of Batman, have there ever been any modernish what if, one off, mini series, that explored what of Batman didn't have his one rule. Essentially he is a rich rear end Frank Castle, but still Batman/Bruce Wayne, he just kills.
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May 1, 2013 18:14
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Gavok posted:I seem to remember Countdown had a segment where Red Hood found a world where Batman went into Frank Castle mode after the Death in the Family situation. But I barely read that series, so I don't know the details.
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May 1, 2013 19:34
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Gavok posted:I seem to remember Countdown had a segment where Red Hood found a world where Batman went into Frank Castle mode after the Death in the Family situation. But I barely read that series, so I don't know the details. Yeah, that's the thing I was talking about. I forget if that particular Earth got annihlated or not, but I know one or two did.
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May 1, 2013 20:56
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Atmus posted:Yeah, that's the thing I was talking about. I forget if that particular Earth got annihlated or not, but I know one or two did. Was earth-51, the earth under Nix Uotan watch. It was a paradise since the crime was erradicated but it was also the weakest against invasions, so when Monarch showed up everything went to poo poo. In my opinion it was the stronger arc of Countdown since it finally gave some closure and character development to Jason (he got the Red Robin persona there), making him realize that Bruce going all Punisher on his foes it would killed his spirit. Sadly they toss everything to the trashcan and the universe was wiped out by Monarch and Superboy Prime.
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Injustice: Gods Among Us 17 Selina is asked by Superman to check on Batman after Dick's death     'Goofy' art aside, I think is a great moment for Selina 
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