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OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

The Duke of Ben posted:

I can't stand to hear that rattle sound in movies or shows anymore. Unless it's National Geographic, it's rarely a rattlesnake and the tail is never moving at all. As someone who's seen a rattlesnake in person (and not in a zoo) that tail movement is very obvious even when you are scared for your life. Watching a snake with no rattle and no tail movement somehow produce that tell-tale sound is maddening to me.

Snakes can be scary without that rattle, and adding the rattle just breaks the fourth wall instantly for me.

What about the generic hissing sound effect? Or squishy slithering noises?

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The Duke of Ben
Jul 12, 2005
Listen, if you're not going to tell me how the entire world economic, political, and social order can be completely replaced in every detail, then I think maybe you should consider that this is the best of all possible worlds.

Check and mate.

Cream_Filling posted:

What about the generic hissing sound effect? Or squishy slithering noises?

Those are annoying, but at least those are sounds snakes other than a very specific species with obvious physical characteristics can actually make. I see them more like a oft-repeated sound, rather than a distinctly wrong sound.

miserable lil onion
Oct 15, 2008

Terminal Entropy posted:

It's venomous, not poisonous, snakes. Poison is digested, venom is intravenous.

Well obviously I was talking about eating a snake, obviously.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

The Duke of Ben posted:

Those are annoying, but at least those are sounds snakes other than a very specific species with obvious physical characteristics can actually make. I see them more like a oft-repeated sound, rather than a distinctly wrong sound.

Rats squeaking like guinea pigs is way more egregious, in my eyes :colbert:

MrGreenShirt
Mar 14, 2005

Hell of a book. It's about bunnies!

For me it's that high-pitched chittering sound they give every giant bug ever. Who's ever heard a spider or scorpion 'chitter'?

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

MrGreenShirt posted:

For me it's that high-pitched chittering sound they give every giant bug ever. Who's ever heard a spider or scorpion 'chitter'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH3WT4nc_XE

Even as a kid I knew this was bullshit :colbert:

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Terminal Entropy posted:

It's venomous, not poisonous, snakes. Poison is digested, venom is intravenous.

:goonsay:

Movies gently caress that one up all the time too.

I am imagining a scene where a character asks "is it poisonous?" and the goony expert says "no" leading to the first character trying to capture/pet/ignore the thing and being envenomated.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

syscall girl posted:

I am imagining a scene where a character asks "is it poisonous?" and the goony expert says "no" leading to the first character trying to capture/pet/ignore the thing and being envenomated.

Didn't that happen in The Lost World: Jurassic Park?

Ledenko
Aug 10, 2012

Huh, isn't that the sound effect they mostly used for bats? (edit: and/or rats)

Ledenko has a new favorite as of 09:53 on Apr 26, 2013

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Terminal Entropy posted:

It's venomous, not poisonous, snakes. Poison is digested, venom is intravenous.

:goonsay:

Movies gently caress that one up all the time too.
You mean Cedric has lied to me? Say it isn't so :smith:

Shirkelton
Apr 6, 2009

I'm not loyal to anything, General... except the dream.

DrBouvenstein posted:

And then, somehow, Max doesn't get hit by any of Vincent's bullets when they both just turn to shoot each other, like, five feet away? Even when we see bullet holes in the train door right at Max's abdomen level?

Somebody once pointed out that Max's entire character is about him being a passive creature of habit and schedule. He doesn't like being disrupted or forced outside of his comfort zone, whereas Vincent survives throughout the movie by constantly throwing himself into situations and then improvising his way out of them.

At the end of the movie Vincent misses because he falls victim to habit and routine, i.e. using the Mozambique drill that is blocked by the doors, and Max acts on instinct, thrusts the gun out and fires wildly and kills him.

fuckpot
May 20, 2007

Lurking beneath the water
The future Immortal awaits

Team Anasta
So I am watching Terminator: Salvation. All of a sudden bullets destroy terminators, and human legs are strong enough to block a punch from a terminator also. Should I bother to keep watching?

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Oct 30, 2009

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To be honest you shouldn't have started. The only worthwhile thing is an Arnold cameo in the whole movie.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


oldpainless posted:

To be honest you shouldn't have started. The only worthwhile thing is an Arnold cameo in the whole movie.

And its not even really that since its just CG.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

I found Salvation to be at least passable to watch, but I'm not really sure how or why. Maybe it's solely because it's the Terminator universe, and I liked finally seeing a story set fully during the robot war, even if it wasn't a very good story.

That said, the movie is full of both rational and irrational irritations, but while it's nowhere near as good as the first movies, at least it didn't actively offend my sensibilities like the third one did.

Then again, maybe it'd be hard for any movie to piss me off more than Terminator 3.

The Duke of Ben
Jul 12, 2005
Listen, if you're not going to tell me how the entire world economic, political, and social order can be completely replaced in every detail, then I think maybe you should consider that this is the best of all possible worlds.

Check and mate.

Midnight Raider posted:

Then again, maybe it'd be hard for any movie to piss me off more than Terminator 3.

Could you (or someone else with the same feelings) elaborate some on why you hate the movie so much? I get that it's a huge step down from T2, but it's likely a step up in most ways from T1, and very few people hate T1. Comparing much to T2 is going to leave you disappointed, is what I feel.

I can understand some general criticisms of T3, but not the hate or special hatred of a decent but not great movie.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

The Duke of Ben posted:

Could you (or someone else with the same feelings) elaborate some on why you hate the movie so much? I get that it's a huge step down from T2, but it's likely a step up in most ways from T1, and very few people hate T1.

Wait are you saying that T1 is not a good film?

FreakyZoid
Nov 28, 2002

T3 is an ok action film. But fans (rightly) expected more than just that from the franchise.

poonchasta
Feb 22, 2007

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At least T3 had the balls to launch the nukes at the end.

venus de lmao
Apr 30, 2007

Call me "pixeltits"

T3 is full of stupid gags like "talk to the hand" and "no I am not making GBS threads you".

Terminal Entropy
Dec 26, 2012

fuckpot posted:

So I am watching Terminator: Salvation. All of a sudden bullets destroy terminators, and human legs are strong enough to block a punch from a terminator also. Should I bother to keep watching?

Worse than that: all a Terminator, machines made solely to kill people with complete medical information loaded into, can do now is throw people around. That is it. No skull bashing, no throat crushing, no heart removals. All they can do is toss people about to hopefully kill them on impact.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Bertrand Hustle posted:

T3 is full of stupid gags like "talk to the hand" and "no I am not making GBS threads you".

T3 would have been a million times better if it was an outright satire instead of having scattered moments of humor that don't fit the film as a whole.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

Terminal Entropy posted:

Worse than that: all a Terminator, machines made solely to kill people with complete medical information loaded into, can do now is throw people around. That is it. No skull bashing, no throat crushing, no heart removals. All they can do is toss people about to hopefully kill them on impact.

Maybe they work on the same scares=power system as Monsters Inc.

The Duke of Ben
Jul 12, 2005
Listen, if you're not going to tell me how the entire world economic, political, and social order can be completely replaced in every detail, then I think maybe you should consider that this is the best of all possible worlds.

Check and mate.

bobkatt013 posted:

Wait are you saying that T1 is not a good film?

T1 is a cool plot idea with mixed acting and special effects. Without T2 it would have been forgotten years ago. I think that if T3 had come out on its own, it would have been received better than it did, following T2.

I'll agree about the out of place and unnecessary comedy in an action triller, though. The same thing really hurt the Star Wars prequels. They would have been far better (and better received) without the ham fisted comedy routines jammed into serious scenes. At least the original three made an effort to include comedy in places where a real person might find it funny, instead of the middle of scenes that would have been much better off tense.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Eh, I will stand up as a proud fan of T3, because it included what would only be considered a swirly of DOOM.

Skunkduster
Jul 15, 2005




The Duke of Ben posted:

Those are annoying, but at least those are sounds snakes other than a very specific species with obvious physical characteristics can actually make.

The fox snake and gopher snake (and maybe others) do not have rattles, but they will "rattle" their tails in dry weeds and leaves to mimic the sound of the rattlesnake.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

The Duke of Ben posted:

T1 is a cool plot idea with mixed acting and special effects. Without T2 it would have been forgotten years ago. I think that if T3 had come out on its own, it would have been received better than it did, following T2.

I'll agree about the out of place and unnecessary comedy in an action triller, though. The same thing really hurt the Star Wars prequels. They would have been far better (and better received) without the ham fisted comedy routines jammed into serious scenes. At least the original three made an effort to include comedy in places where a real person might find it funny, instead of the middle of scenes that would have been much better off tense.

The special effects are very good for the time and budget that the film had. Also it was so well received the sequel came out 7 years after the first one. It is also the film that caused Arnold and James Cameron's career to explode.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


bobkatt013 posted:

The special effects are very good for the time and budget that the film had. Also it was so well received the sequel came out 7 years after the first one. It is also the film that caused Arnold and James Cameron's career to explode.

If you get the blu ray there's a brilliant bit during the bike chase where John Connor is clearly a 40 ish man on a bike. I guess it worked in the cinema etc. but now that tv's can do 100hz or whatever it's hilariously obvious.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Powerful Two-Hander posted:

If you get the blu ray there's a brilliant bit during the bike chase where John Connor is clearly a 40 ish man on a bike. I guess it worked in the cinema etc. but now that tv's can do 100hz or whatever it's hilariously obvious.

Uh, film has better resolution than even HDTV, and having a higher refresh rate doesn't help when the source is only 24 fps. The reason it worked in cinema is because you're going "ohh poo poo the terminator's going to gently caress his poo poo up" and not hitting pause every few minutes because you've seen the movie like 20 times already.

Ape Has Killed Ape
Sep 15, 2005

SkunkDuster posted:

The fox snake and gopher snake (and maybe others) do not have rattles, but they will "rattle" their tails in dry weeds and leaves to mimic the sound of the rattlesnake.

Most snakes wiggle their tales to indicate that they're not particularly pleased with you. Rattlesnakes are just better at it.

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Cream_Filling posted:

having a higher refresh rate doesn't help when the source is only 24 fps.

Unless you didn't disable the lovely TruMotion/MotionFlow/SmoothMotion interpolation built into your HDTV that makes everything look like a soap opera :pcgaming:

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Eh, I will stand up as a proud fan of T3, because it included what would only be considered a swirly of DOOM.

Also when it came out it was one of the first action movies in three years or so that didn't shamelessly ape The Matrix.

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

...of SCIENCE! posted:

tl;dr they made a goofy satire of cop movies that ended with a sobering animated infographic showing how Wall Street has royally screwed everybody over. A lot of people were irritated because they thought it was preachy and didn't fit the tone of the movie, but I was irritated because the movie would have been a lot better if it spent less time pointing out that action movies are unrealistic and built more of its humor around mocking white collar crime and law enforcement.
This actually was one of the huge themes of the movie. In the beginning, the Rock and Jackson are lauded as heroic bad-asses because they were able to kill a few bottom tier drug dealers. Doesn't matter that they caused millions of dollars in damage to do it; they get all the respect, attention, and women. Will Ferrel discovers that some executive is stealing billions from normal working folk and no one gives a poo poo. Actually they give less than poo poo, they see him as a sissy egghead who doesn't deserve to be a cop. The credit infographics just continue the theme of people caring more about small time crime when they should be caring about the major damage Wall Street and friends are doing. That movie had a lot going on for being a silly Will Ferrel comedy.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Cream_Filling posted:

Uh, film has better resolution than even HDTV, and having a higher refresh rate doesn't help when the source is only 24 fps. The reason it worked in cinema is because you're going "ohh poo poo the terminator's going to gently caress his poo poo up" and not hitting pause every few minutes because you've seen the movie like 20 times already.

I thought that up until LCD's could do 100hz they couldn't actually manage proper 24fps playback natively and there was some odd interpolation used? Also before someone points it out, I do realise that refresh rate is not applicable to LCD panels.

Anyway, regardless of this, here's the actual shot:

Big Grunty Secret
Aug 28, 2007

Just one question, though. Is there a way to take off my pants?
In the intro to The Dark Knight Rises, the CIA is interrogating Bane's men on a plane, only to have one of them reveal themselves as Bane.

There's about 5 or 6 heavily armed CIA agents on the plane. Why do none of them draw their gun when they see that the head of the terrorist group they're hunting is right in front of them? Some of them look downright bored, resting their hands on their rifles.

fuckpot
May 20, 2007

Lurking beneath the water
The future Immortal awaits

Team Anasta

Big Grunty Secret posted:

In the intro to The Dark Knight Rises, the CIA is interrogating Bane's men on a plane, only to have one of them reveal themselves as Bane.

There's about 5 or 6 heavily armed CIA agents on the plane. Why do none of them draw their gun when they see that the head of the terrorist group they're hunting is right in front of them? Some of them look downright bored, resting their hands on their rifles.
Because he was handcuffed. Bane was handed in by his own men as a ploy to get on the plane so Bane could get at Doctor Pavel. The soldiers were complacent because they thought that Bane was properly secured. Unfortunately for them he wasn't, and they get punched/shot to death by Bane and his comrades through the windows.

Surely I don't need to spoiler that?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Plus shooting a gun in a plane is generally considered a bad idea and by the time they realize they SHOULD shoot him he was going crazy psycho on them.

Big Grunty Secret
Aug 28, 2007

Just one question, though. Is there a way to take off my pants?

RagnarokAngel posted:

Plus shooting a gun in a plane is generally considered a bad idea and by the time they realize they SHOULD shoot him he was going crazy psycho on them.

Well they knew they were going in a plane, why didnt they bring pepper spray? Or tasers? Or a large net?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I don't know if it was just the theatre I saw it at, but Bane's voice annoyed the poo poo out of me. I know they had to redo a lot of his lines because people couldn't understand what he was mumbling about, but where I saw the movie it was so obvious which lines were redubbed it threw me right out of the movie.

One minute Bane's talking in his muffled Max Von Sydow voice, next his voice is twice as loud and crystal clear. Going one way or the other would have been bearable, but doing both made the movie extra lovely for me.

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LeJackal
Apr 5, 2011

Big Grunty Secret posted:

Well they knew they were going in a plane, why didnt they bring pepper spray? Or tasers? Or a large net?

:ninja: "Do you zink zose guns give you power over me?"
:cop: "Net him, boys!"

The image in my head has kept me giggling off and on for ten minutes now.

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