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Shovelbearer posted:Kitty Pryde in that blog post basically says the only type of female fans that Danny Brown has are idiots and whores. Uh no she doesn't, like not at all?
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The Doo Do Chasers posted:Uh no she doesn't, like not at all? Maybe "idiots" is harsh but the "quiverers" she describes sound extremely vapid.
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May 2, 2013 19:30
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Again, no they don't. They are young, hip women. That's what young, hip, nerdy girls do. They do dorky cutesy poo poo like drawing their favorite rapper and putting it up on Tumblr. Go look at Kitty Pryde's Tumblr, her mixtape covers, and her friends in her videos. They are those girls. And I'm just gonna go ahead and say that you are the one making misogynist statements, never met someone who didn't have some issues with women that unironically uses the word "vapid". And not to mention that she repeatedly says that the gropers are OK, as long as they aren't, you know, raping her friend. She was very careful with her words The Doo Do Chasers fucked around with this message at 19:39 on May 2, 2013 |
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May 2, 2013 19:34
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Shovelbearer posted:Maybe "idiots" is harsh but the "quiverers" she describes sound extremely vapid. I thought the "Quiverers" was less "Idiot" and more "Socially inept nerd". So social idiots and mental idiots
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The Doo Do Chasers posted:Again, no they don't. They are young, hip women. That's what young, hip, nerdy girls do. They do dorky cutesy poo poo like drawing their favorite rapper and putting it up on Tumblr. Go look at Kitty Pryde's Tumblr, her mixtape covers, and her friends in her videos. They are those girls. There are vapid dudes out there too  It's not the dorky cutesy poo poo and the fawning that made them sound bad to me, it's the "they scoff at me for not being that cool online" part. We're not going to agree on this. How can it not be misogynistic to say "there are only two types of female (anything) fans"?e: I thought everything else she wrote was spot on. e: Also, I've seen the word "vapid" used unironically by feminist bloggers like Anna North. If this is truly a word that is considered problematic, I will strike it from my vocabulary when referring to people. Shovelbearer fucked around with this message at 19:52 on May 2, 2013 |
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May 2, 2013 19:38
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Shovelbearer posted:There are vapid dudes out there too I felt it was more in the context of those REALLY into Danny Brown. Cause while there were female fans that were clearly into him, there was definitely a line in the sand between the types of fanship.
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May 2, 2013 19:50
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You fuckin geeks
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May 2, 2013 19:51
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thathonkey posted:Gonna have to side with alan on this one. I know quite a few feminists (not just self-proclaimed, but active women's studied grads etc) who are also big rap fans (typically commercial/mainstream fans) and i have been meaning to ask how they reconcile the two things. Seems like some serious cognitive dissonance at play... Totally, these women should know better. Now if you'll excuse me I'll be outside dealing drugs and using guns
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May 2, 2013 19:53
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Cool Buff Man posted:You fuckin geeks word son
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May 2, 2013 19:55
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Well at least it was a good rapper like Danny instead of a lamo like Tyga or Wale. Remember when Lupe made good music like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Et1siZhTk
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temple posted:Well at least it was a good rapper like Danny instead of a lamo like Tyga or Wale. Lupe is still really good. His label just really ruined his rep with that lovely Lazers album. Wale is at his best on mix tapes and features. He too is still really good when he's not rapping about women. Btw, when is his next Seinfield-sampling mixtape supposed to drop?
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John Brown posted:Lupe is still really good. His label just really ruined his rep with that lovely Lazers album.
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Muck and Mire posted:Totally, these women should know better. Now if you'll excuse me I'll be outside dealing drugs and using guns What is your point here exactly? I have my own reconciliations to make w/r/t glorification of violence etc in a genre I adore but that is besides the point. I wasnt putting down womens studies majors+rap fans... These people are my friends. I just meant that i was curious to know how they deal with the discrepancy in their own minds. So gently caress off. Anyway, i didnt think this thread could get any worse than it does during race chat but i forgot about misogyny chat. Sigh Edit: \/\/\/ seconding this. Never understood lupe...
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May 2, 2013 21:22
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can someone please post an awesome Lupe song and change my opinion cuz i currently can't stand the dude tbh
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this was ok but it was also a lifetime ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyuLLhP9CPc
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he has the worst breath control in the world and its really grating
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here are some of his best tracks imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EMsTDfP8ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll9c1S3d_v4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpzDtCSVBqk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js2RosE8Uwk
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May 2, 2013 21:27
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Prefuse posted:here are some of his best tracks imo: Nah he was full cheeseball status before those came out but thats ok
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yeah i don't think this dude is my cup of tea guys, thanks for the links tho he does the "i'm this like that" punchline 75% of the time - p much can't gently caress with similes anymore unless it's really clever i think its because he is doing a watered down version of what kanye is doing, which kinda sounds like an oxymoron but i think it's true - hes like an indie kanye but without the "crazy" and the "feelability" imo more power to those of you who like him, just not really my thing
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THNDRTHF posted:yeah i don't think this dude is my cup of tea guys, thanks for the links tho He's not very good and he shrieks when he breathes.
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He also made this song for "Twilight" so he can die to hell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31XQPUyv2g
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Oh Buff man, i unironically missed you.Cool Buff Man posted:He's not very good and he shrieks when he breathes. Kinda like Muse leas singer, another mediocre band. Lupe:kanye as muse:radiohead? Edit: \/\/\/ lol, +1 for topicality thathonkey fucked around with this message at 21:38 on May 2, 2013 |
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thathonkey posted:Oh Buff man, i unironically missed you. Easy there Jason Collins. Haha
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I know you've already thrown in the towel(for good reason), and I haven't really listened to much Lupe since about 2008 but I still like this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77QsbRuslKw edit: Also that Bad Bitch song came on the radio when I was driving home at 4am and I actually wanted to die. Every loving rhyme is so forced and he just tries to throw as many smart sounding words as he can. Wezlar fucked around with this message at 21:40 on May 2, 2013 |
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THNDRTHF posted:can someone please post an awesome Lupe song and change my opinion cuz i currently can't stand the dude tbh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBgSijwAtmQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n70qsCPe83Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsMuUheeZY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA93qIdqDyI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkh86OYuDig
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I have a lot of respect for Lupe. He got some blowback from that T.R.O.Y sample/recreation but he is still sorta the same. He's going the way of Mos Def which is good. Even though Mos Def himself has made 1 or 1.5 solid albums under his belt(if you count Black On Both Sides AND Black Star). Lupe isn't fizzling out as hard, post Lasers. I'd feel Mos a lot more if he went back to that Brooklyn battle rap/story teller style instead of rapping about the Quran or whatever he sings about these days. Trust me, I tried with Mos. I just ignored Lasers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olAWW3upODI edit: Gold Watch++++. temple fucked around with this message at 21:46 on May 2, 2013 |
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temple posted:I have a lot of respect for Lupe. He got some blowback from that T.R.O.Y sample/recreation but he is still sorta the same. He's going the way of Mos Def which is good. Even though Mos Def himself has made 1 or 1.5 solid albums under his belt(if you count Black On Both Sides AND Black Star). Lupe isn't fizzling out as hard, post Lasers. I'd feel Mos a lot more if he went back to that Brooklyn battle rap/story teller style instead of rapping about the Quran or whatever he sings about these days. The best thing mos def has done in a decade is get slick rick on a song
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I liked Lupe in Touch the Sky, and I can enjoy some of his songs as a more pop-ish sort of thing. For whatever reason, I have him and Kid Cudi mentally linked, which works alright for me. What's the threads opinion on MF DOOM?
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THNDRTHF posted:can someone please post an awesome Lupe song and change my opinion cuz i currently can't stand the dude tbh This is already a page full of kinda lovely Lupe songs but you should listen to this one b/c it hasn't been posted and I don't gently caress with Lupe besides his verse on the Everybody Nose remix and this is actually really pretty cool. Oh and it's over Still Tippinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0B_R_IDtgU
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I like Doom. His flow is generally regarded as below average but he tends to make up for it with lyrics and production and high concept albums. Viktor Vaughn LP is probably my favorite of his albums but he didnt do much (any?) of the production for it. More recently, i really enjoy the Clams produced song posted a couple pages back.
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I'm trying to be diplomatic here but I can't listen to more than like 1/2 a Lupe verse before I click something else out of pure boredom.
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for comedic value here is lupe at his absolute worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n31XQPUyv2g (what the gently caress is this) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE69NeFcuHE (dubstep rap) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP-UvFO-7nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmp6zIr5y4U (that loving modest mouse sample)
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THNDRTHF posted:I'm trying to be diplomatic here but I can't listen to more than like 1/2 a Lupe verse before I click something else out of pure boredom. Eh, I kinda hosed up with Intruder Alert link but it's whatever. Either you like him or you don't and there's too much music out there to argue about it. He's one of my favorites but I think he's personally a little hosed up. Good thing I don't look to artists for life lessons, I guess. Anyway, I saw that you guys had a discussion about Chance so I want to chime in real quickly. I actually hate most of his production but he's really good technically, and obviously he has a lot of enthusiasm. Here's the only song I could keep from 10 Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuGvfwEL5v4 (If this was the lead single then I had no idea)
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:I liked Lupe in Touch the Sky, and I can enjoy some of his songs as a more pop-ish sort of thing. For whatever reason, I have him and Kid Cudi mentally linked, which works alright for me. Personally, I really enjoy MF DOOM. I've never been to any of his performances, because I'd rather not get duped, but his albums are great and he's one of the few rappers I can listen to for like a month straight, simply because of how good his lyrics are.
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THNDRTHF posted:I'm trying to be diplomatic here but I can't listen to more than like 1/2 a Lupe verse before I click something else out of pure boredom. This, but with Doom too
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Doom definitely has some awful poo poo in his catalogue. Like that Danger Mouse collab album.
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Yeah that one sucks. King Geedorah - Take me to your Leader and Vaudeville Villain are my fave Doom albums, really good stuff on those.
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Doom and Lupe are sit down and listen rappers. Most people think DOOM nerd/hipster rap until his humor clicks for you. After that, it is hard to knock him. DOOM's output has dropped over the years and I bought and forgot that JJ Doom album. You have to listen and relisten to DOOM, he hides a lot of poo poo in his rhymes. Doomsday, Viktor Vaughn, Madvillainy, Mmm Food, Born Like This. There are more albums, I like them all, but those are essential. This whole song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJGupAjQ0s0 DangerDoom is silly but its about fun. He killed the ATHF song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2_SkseXtAo edit: Doom sucks and is the worst rapper.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Yeah that one sucks. 'I wonder' from King Geedorah is such an emotion-laden track, it's quite surprising. He's always spitting over interesting production which makes his stuff infinitely more listenable I'd say but I'm a big DOOM fan anyway. I like Born Like This, don't remember that getting a great reception but it was a solid release if a bit short.
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