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Ive taken it as granted that all US sitcoms come with canned laughter since forever, why so surprised? Quite like big bang theory, not exactly rolling on the floor but it gives the occasional giggle.
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May 3, 2013 14:21
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Seaside Loafer posted:Ive taken it as granted that all US sitcoms come with canned laughter since forever, why so surprised? Quite like big bang theory, not exactly rolling on the floor but it gives the occasional giggle. Not worth it for the occasional giggle imo. I didn't mean to infer in my last post that I was surprised by this happening, it's pretty common by now for the shittier comedies world wide to used canned laughter. I should have said its just with US sitcoms especially it just distracts too much from the show itself. As for BBT, when the youtube vids of the laughter removed is much funnier than the standard episode itself, that's how you know there's something wrong.
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May 3, 2013 15:04
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Most US sitcoms are done with a studio audience (ones that have laughter, I mean). They may be edited, but I think the majority of them are genuine, or at least as genuine as people laughing when a sign tells them to is. Famously, Larry David used to hate when the audience went wild laughing at something in Seinfeld or cheering whenever Kramer entered the room. It can ruin the flow of jokes and sometimes make them difficult to hear. He used to gesticulate wildly for them to stop. On this subject, does anyone know if Alan Partridge was done with an audience? Of course, a lot of it was on location, so that stuff must have been added or shown to the audience later, but it always seems out of place. I've also always wondered if this meant everything had to be shot in sequence so the audience always knows what's going on?
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May 3, 2013 15:08
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Mickolution posted:Most US sitcoms are done with a studio audience (ones that have laughter, I mean). They may be edited, but I think the majority of them are genuine, or at least as genuine as people laughing when a sign tells them to is. Famously, Larry David used to hate when the audience went wild laughing at something in Seinfeld or cheering whenever Kramer entered the room. It can ruin the flow of jokes and sometimes make them difficult to hear. He used to gesticulate wildly for them to stop. This will probably sound stupid but I've always wondered, does the studio audience thing mean that an audience actually watches them film it live? Cos like, in Friends for example, it seems like there are always instances where the actors pause when the audience laughs and then carry on when they stop. But I've never known if it means this or if it just means they showed an audience a tape and they laugh because they're meant to
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May 3, 2013 15:16
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Yeah it means there's an audience there as they film. Thread favourite Mrs Brown's Boys uses the same technique.
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May 3, 2013 15:31
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Paperhouse posted:This will probably sound stupid but I've always wondered, does the studio audience thing mean that an audience actually watches them film it live? Cos like, in Friends for example, it seems like there are always instances where the actors pause when the audience laughs and then carry on when they stop. But I've never known if it means this or if it just means they showed an audience a tape and they laugh because they're meant to Yeah, there's an actual audience there. I can't find a good picture to illustrate it, but it's like how the audience is in When The Whistle Blows from Extras. edit: beaten stickyfngrdboy posted:Yeah it means there's an audience there as they film. Thread favourite Mrs Brown's Boys uses the same technique. Yeah, don't they actualy show the audience in that sometimes?
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May 3, 2013 15:33
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There's definitely something up with The Big Bang Theory audience laughter. A lot of the time it's just completely disproportionate to the joke. I haven't seen many epiosdes but it occasionaly has a clever little line that's worth a knowing nod and a chuckle, but the 'audience' will be howling with laughter. It really takes you out of it. I've never noticed that with older stuff like Friends, Seinfeld or whatever, or modern multi-cam US sitcoms like How I met your mother.
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May 3, 2013 15:38
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My favouite has always been when it was on old episodes of The Flintstones.
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May 3, 2013 15:41
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Paperhouse posted:This will probably sound stupid but I've always wondered, does the studio audience thing mean that an audience actually watches them film it live? Cos like, in Friends for example, it seems like there are always instances where the actors pause when the audience laughs and then carry on when they stop. But I've never known if it means this or if it just means they showed an audience a tape and they laugh because they're meant to Yeah, there's actually an audience behind the camera watching and laughing. On the Red Dwarf DVD sets they talk about how it was good the audience returned for season 8 after being single-camera for season 7, they said having the extra pressure of the live audience makes you up your game a bit, and sometimes jokes get slightly rewritten depending on audience reactions.
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May 3, 2013 15:47
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For shows like that, surely there must occasionally be the need to redo scenes a few times, and no way is the audience still gonna be laughing at a joke they've just heard 6 times in a row. Or do they record the laughter from the first time it was performed and play it over the footage of the later scene?
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May 3, 2013 17:31
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Captain Mediocre posted:Or do they record the laughter from the first time it was performed and play it over the footage of the later scene?
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May 3, 2013 17:47
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Junkenstein posted:There's definitely something up with The Big Bang Theory audience laughter. A lot of the time it's just completely disproportionate to the joke. I haven't seen many epiosdes but it occasionaly has a clever little line that's worth a knowing nod and a chuckle, but the 'audience' will be howling with laughter. It really takes you out of it. I've never noticed that with older stuff like Friends, Seinfeld or whatever, or modern multi-cam US sitcoms like How I met your mother. I honestly have no idea about live studio audiences, but this reminds me of something I noticed when I'd go to see stand up comedy in the US. Go to an open mic night in the British Isles and the standard position of the audience will be one of cynicism until the comedians prove themselves to be not poo poo by making them laugh. Americans on the other hand always seemed much more generous, laughter wise. I don't know if it's because booze is so much cheaper over there and the punters were more liquored up, or if it's just a cultural difference.
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May 3, 2013 18:04
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Pointless is doing repeats right now. >_> Will never understand how Hunky Dory managed to be a pointless answer for "David Bowie Albums" though.
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May 3, 2013 18:10
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The answer sample in Pointless always depresses me. It's fun trying to guess how many people will know, say, Let it Be was a Beatles song.
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May 3, 2013 18:14
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Mickolution posted:On this subject, does anyone know if Alan Partridge was done with an audience? Of course, a lot of it was on location, so that stuff must have been added or shown to the audience later, but it always seems out of place. His studio work with Aha! was a live studio audience. I went to a recording in the mid 90s. There were no cues for laughter, but the applause was cued by studio staff, that was about it. Coogan stayed in character the whole filming. I suppose this doesn't really answer your question, of course there'd be an audience for a chat show, mock or otherwise.
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May 3, 2013 18:14
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Junkenstein posted:There's definitely something up with The Big Bang Theory audience laughter. A lot of the time it's just completely disproportionate to the joke. I haven't seen many epiosdes but it occasionaly has a clever little line that's worth a knowing nod and a chuckle, but the 'audience' will be howling with laughter. It really takes you out of it. I've never noticed that with older stuff like Friends, Seinfeld or whatever, or modern multi-cam US sitcoms like How I met your mother. I think the worst was later series of Married with Children. Whenever someone came through a door there was around a minute of cheering/applause.
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May 3, 2013 18:36
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I did half a year of AS media studies and I can remember people in my class whose acting skills were much better than those of the shower of bellends on Hollyoaks. The story lines are now super ridiculous. American soap opera, people having affairs with ghosts, ridiculous. Was it always this bad? The last time I watched it was about 10 years ago. I can't remember it being this silly, but maybe I was just too young to appreciate how monumentally poo poo it was. Our Jacqchui off Brookside has ended up on it. I suppose it's a place where people just end up. Has anyone ever started an acting career at Hollyoaks?
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May 3, 2013 18:50
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I really enjoy the Daily Show and the Colbert Report, but the audience laughter just completely grinds me sometimes, and it is definitely a live studio. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE/THE INTERVIEWEE IS SAYING STOP WHOOPING FOR FUCKS SAKE
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May 3, 2013 18:58
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Channel 4 News start their show by interviewing an old man about UKIP's electoral success. Presumably he'd been asked what he thought of UKIP: "They have some good policies""Like what?" "Immigration"... "I'm not bein' racialist, ya know, but they have the right idea!"I loving love Channel 4 News. I think I'd give up my TV set if they killed off Channel 4 News.
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May 3, 2013 19:06
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sex pervert posted:Our Jacqchui off Brookside has ended up on it. I suppose it's a place where people just end up. Has anyone ever started an acting career at Hollyoaks? Three cast members of Hollyoaks have gone on to play important roles on Game of Thrones (Finn Jones, Nathalie Emmanuel, Roxanne McKee) and all three have proved themselves to be very talented. It's the rushed nature of soap production that makes the quality so bad, it's nothing to do with the talent of the cast.
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May 3, 2013 19:09
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Mr. Squishy posted:The answer sample in Pointless always depresses me. It's fun trying to guess how many people will know, say, Let it Be was a Beatles song. Is it country-based geography? Name an African country (Central African Republic, Republic of Congo or Democratic Republic of Congo) Is it "name a politician in the UK"? Name a Scottish, Welsh or Irish politician. Two hard and fast rules for Pointless there.
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May 3, 2013 19:56
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sex pervert posted:I honestly have no idea about live studio audiences, but this reminds me of something I noticed when I'd go to see stand up comedy in the US. Go to an open mic night in the British Isles and the standard position of the audience will be one of cynicism until the comedians prove themselves to be not poo poo by making them laugh. Americans on the other hand always seemed much more generous, laughter wise. I don't know if it's because booze is so much cheaper over there and the punters were more liquored up, or if it's just a cultural difference. See also: The US version of Whose Line is it Anyway, where the audience would clap at every. single. thing.
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May 3, 2013 20:03
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Roidweiser posted:I think the worst was later series of Married with Children. Whenever someone came through a door there was around a minute of cheering/applause. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUWVU2rM_B4 Also regarding the Big Bang Theory, have this slightly smug graphic from the creator or somebody who knows that programme is awful 
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May 3, 2013 20:06
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sex pervert posted:I did half a year of AS media studies and I can remember people in my class whose acting skills were much better than those of the shower of bellends on Hollyoaks. The story lines are now super ridiculous. American soap opera, people having affairs with ghosts, ridiculous. Was it always this bad? The last time I watched it was about 10 years ago. I can't remember it being this silly, but maybe I was just too young to appreciate how monumentally poo poo it was. It's always been silly. Remember Bombhead, who acted as though his dead mother's corpse was in fact still alive for weeks before the body was found by someone else. In this period his best friend was a hallucination of a man who was dead. Bombhead later joined a travelling circus that his estranged father was a part of. A particularly amusing storyline going on right now is the one where a previously charming and likable guy called Will has become a creepy controlling psychopath. I like this one especially because it's exactly the same as one they did about 5 years ago, where a seemingly nice guy called Will became a creepy and controlling psychopath. Say what you want about Hollyoaks but it doesn't lack consistency in it's pursuit of ridiculous plots and characters
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May 3, 2013 20:19
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onoflalks posted:Is it country-based geography? Name an African country (Central African Republic, Republic of Congo or Democratic Republic of Congo) The -stan countries are always good for a Pointless too. I automatically shout Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan at the telly if a geography question comes up. The third hard-and-fast rule is never pick Movies for your final round. People think "Oh, I like movies, that'll be easy", but it's always "give a Pointless movie that Brad Pitt/George Clooney/Angelina Jolie starred in" The Pointless answers are always some ridiculously obscure student film the actor had a bit-part in back in 1983, the contestants minds inevitably go blank, they can only remember the blockbusters, and they never win. It's painful to watch.
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May 3, 2013 20:22
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Paperhouse posted:It's always been silly. Remember Bombhead, who acted as though his dead mother's corpse was in fact still alive for weeks before the body was found by someone else. In this period his best friend was a hallucination of a man who was dead. Bombhead later joined a travelling circus that his estranged father was a part of. A particularly amusing storyline going on right now is the one where a previously charming and likable guy called Will has become a creepy controlling psychopath. I like this one especially because it's exactly the same as one they did about 5 years ago, where a seemingly nice guy called Will became a creepy and controlling psychopath. Say what you want about Hollyoaks but it doesn't lack consistency in it's pursuit of ridiculous plots and characters There was also a storyline with a character claiming to be an alien, with the token physics nerd believing his story and helping him build a beacon. The alien was actually a guy abandoned at birth, and the nerd ended up working for NASA. And don't forget Newt, the goth who hallucinated an evil man who would make him do bad things, and who had an entire episode dedicated to him that was essentially a dream about the perfect girl. Warren Fox coming back from the dead was nice, especially when he tricked a man into thinking he'd murdered a prostitute. And nobody can forget Silas, the village serial killer who was portrayed as a moustache twirling vaudeville villain crossed with Hannibal Lecter. The best soap on British TV, if only for its sheer outrageousness.
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May 3, 2013 20:38
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FelixMeOneMoreTime posted:There was also a storyline with a character claiming to be an alien, with the token physics nerd believing his story and helping him build a beacon. The alien was actually a guy abandoned at birth, and the nerd ended up working for NASA. And don't forget Newt, the goth who hallucinated an evil man who would make him do bad things, and who had an entire episode dedicated to him that was essentially a dream about the perfect girl. Warren Fox coming back from the dead was nice, especially when he tricked a man into thinking he'd murdered a prostitute. And nobody can forget Silas, the village serial killer who was portrayed as a moustache twirling vaudeville villain crossed with Hannibal Lecter. The best soap on British TV, if only for its sheer outrageousness. Absolutely, I was only touching the tip of the tip of the iceberg with that post. Literally every single character in Hollyoaks has been embroiled in at least one laughably far-fetched plot, and most of them have been in many. I always forget to watch it these days, which is a shame because I really do like it.
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May 3, 2013 21:38
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Paperhouse posted:Absolutely, I was only touching the tip of the tip of the iceberg with that post. Literally every single character in Hollyoaks has been embroiled in at least one laughably far-fetched plot, and most of them have been in many. I always forget to watch it these days, which is a shame because I really do like it. And on the opposite hand, the JP/Craig relationship was the best soap romance I've ever seen. Which isn't saying much, I know.
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May 4, 2013 01:33
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quote:And on the opposite hand, the JP/Craig relationship was the best soap romance I've ever seen. Which isn't saying much, I know. Now though, they have possibly the worst, most caricatured one of all time. Two blokes who I can't tell apart until they speak (one of them is doing an American accent), running a deli, or something. A whole episode the other day was dedicated to those two bitching at each other in their shop and making gay innuendos. They were competing against each other for an award called "the chocolate star" and they kept fighting and hissing at each other over who had the nicest cheesy balls and other horrible poo poo. It was awful. I don't know who that was for. I really need to find something better to do after dinner. edit: I actually really love how soaps present their "entrepreneur" characters. It's always as if the writers are using Shaum's Outline of GCSE Business Studies when they're writing their "businessy!" dialogue. And all the businessy sets have big pie charts pinned to the wall 
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May 4, 2013 08:41
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Irisi posted:The -stan countries are always good for a Pointless too. I automatically shout Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan at the telly if a geography question comes up. I loving nailed 'Roger Moore films' in the pointless final. Got four I think.
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May 4, 2013 14:35
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Do they have some kind of aptitude test before letting people on Pointless? I ask because some people appear to be incredibly dense.
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May 4, 2013 15:24
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twoot posted:
I detest people who whoop in audiences. It is so utterly utterly mindless. And it just seems rude.
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May 4, 2013 17:28
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I remember a few years back I read a blog post from someone in the audience for both The Big Bang Theory and poo poo my Dad says. He said that the laughing is real, but they selectively pick people to be in the audience who are easy to make laugh. Not sure how verifiable this is, but it makes sense in theory.
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May 4, 2013 17:42
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onoflalks posted:Is it country-based geography? Name an African country (Central African Republic, Republic of Congo or Democratic Republic of Congo) Pacific countries are good too. Nauru will win me thousands of pounds one day, I'm sure of it.
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May 4, 2013 19:31
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Calico Heart posted:I remember a few years back I read a blog post from someone in the audience for both The Big Bang Theory and poo poo my Dad says. He said that the laughing is real, but they selectively pick people to be in the audience who are easy to make laugh. Not sure how verifiable this is, but it makes sense in theory. I don't know how you'd feasibly do this unless you had a question on the form like "What other TV shows do you find funny?" and if you write down "Two and a Half Men", you've got a free ticket to every recording.
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May 4, 2013 19:33
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Would be easier to watch the warm-up for groups who laugh the most and reposition the audience mics accordingly.
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May 4, 2013 19:35
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goatface posted:Would be easier to watch the warm-up for groups who laugh the most and reposition the audience mics accordingly. I believe what actually happens is that there are mics all throughout the audience, and they just change the mix based on where the most laughter occurs. This is what appeared to be the system when I was at a lovely sitcom taping.
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May 4, 2013 21:30
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Junkenstein posted:There's definitely something up with The Big Bang Theory audience laughter. A lot of the time it's just completely disproportionate to the joke. I haven't seen many epiosdes but it occasionaly has a clever little line that's worth a knowing nod and a chuckle, but the 'audience' will be howling with laughter. It really takes you out of it. I've never noticed that with older stuff like Friends, Seinfeld or whatever, or modern multi-cam US sitcoms like How I met your mother.
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May 4, 2013 22:03
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I was at a recording of the Jonathan Ross BBC interview show once (I was dragged there), and for the music act at the end of the show we had Mika. Noone in the audience liked it, we all kinda sat there in sullen silence while he played his song and finished. Then a producer came out and berated us for not being enthusiastic enough, told us all to stand up and that clapping along was mandatory. He half-jokingly threatened that anyone who failed to stand up and clap along, cheer etc. would be singled out in front of everyone else. So Mika played the song again and we all had to pretend to have fun for the second take which was, of course, used for the show.
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May 4, 2013 22:06
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Calico Heart posted:I remember a few years back I read a blog post from someone in the audience for both The Big Bang Theory and poo poo my Dad says. He said that the laughing is real, but they selectively pick people to be in the audience who are easy to make laugh. Not sure how verifiable this is, but it makes sense in theory. There's a lot of money in selling seats for shows if they are popular of course, my uncle when to a recording of the Cosby show back in the 80s and even then there was a gift shop set up to sell merchandise (got a badge from it). I can see them placing 'professional' laughers to encourage the rest to join in, but I wouldn't say the whole audience is full of them.
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