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Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

Ratoslov posted:

So I was cruisn' around as my Golem Farmer, and I got a treasure map! But I don't think it's anywhere that really exists...



Try:

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Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.
I went into Owen's moongate, but the kitty bank only dropped 4 gold :smith:

Red Mundus
Oct 22, 2010
So Elona+ for some reason is going nuts on me. Whenever I start the game the controls get stuck (as if the "b" button is pressed or something)

My controls are extra sensitive as well so on the main menu, pressing down causes me to skip over all the options extra fast.

Sorry if my explanations suck. Hopefully I'm making sense. Anyone know what can cause this?

*edit* Okay, it appears the game thinks the "g" key is constantly pressed down. The hell? Game was working fine yesterday.

Red Mundus fucked around with this message at 01:45 on May 6, 2013

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!


Thanks!

Spoggerific
May 28, 2009

Red Mundus posted:

So Elona+ for some reason is going nuts on me. Whenever I start the game the controls get stuck (as if the "b" button is pressed or something)

My controls are extra sensitive as well so on the main menu, pressing down causes me to skip over all the options extra fast.

Sorry if my explanations suck. Hopefully I'm making sense. Anyone know what can cause this?

*edit* Okay, it appears the game thinks the "g" key is constantly pressed down. The hell? Game was working fine yesterday.

The same thing happened to me, except with the up and right arrow keys. I recognized pretty fast that it was probably a problem with a stuck key, but I usually use the numpad to move around, so it took me a while to realize what was going wrong. I even tested if any key was stuck down in notepad, but nothing was; the game only fixed itself when I pressed the up and right arrow keys while in game. Pressing them outside of the game or even in menus didn't fix it, for some odd reason.

Stelas posted:

e: Is it worth sticking up an IRC channel for this? It's not like the chat program's much good outside of amusing deaths. I'll kick up #elona on synirc or something, bonus points if someone works out an API to feed deathchat through to it.

I'd be up for this, and I'd probably add it to my IRC client's autojoin list. Have you already made the channel?

Johnnyonoes
Feb 4, 2008
Hates people, but likes groups
Thanks guys, really enjoying the game. Thanks for supporting the post.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Spoggerific posted:

I'd be up for this, and I'd probably add it to my IRC client's autojoin list. Have you already made the channel?

Yeah, it's up. #elona.

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

Someone earlier in the thread posted their modified map image that gets rid of all the crappy faded noise effect. My map looks like this:



(I still can't find it :mad:)


Also here is my bald green baby and the white kitten that lives in my home and is super cute, gently caress Mia's quest. Related note, is there any way to make the pixels bigger in this drat game? Increasing or decreasing the resolution just changes the window size. I swear that when I last played vanilla Elona, everything was twice the size. Maybe it's just my monitor... :(

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

There's an option in Screen + Sound: PCC Show. Turn it to full-size and you should have a better time of things, I think? I'm using a bunch of old custom graphics from last version, though, so I might have overwritten a lot of the standard ones.

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Corridor posted:

Someone earlier in the thread posted their modified map image that gets rid of all the crappy faded noise effect. My map looks like this:



(I still can't find it :mad:)


Also here is my bald green baby and the white kitten that lives in my home and is super cute, gently caress Mia's quest. Related note, is there any way to make the pixels bigger in this drat game? Increasing or decreasing the resolution just changes the window size. I swear that when I last played vanilla Elona, everything was twice the size. Maybe it's just my monitor... :(



It's one tile west of where my dude is standing - this is like 5 tiles north of the Embassy where you pay taxes, north of Palmia.



When you're comparing to the world map on the the wiki, ignore grass/trees - those changed a bunch in Elona+. Mountains are still pretty good.

Reive
May 21, 2009

I wish the networking had more features, seeing death messages is cool, but I can't even imagine how crazy it'd get if it had dark souls style invasions/covenants, of course you'd have to work around it being turn based.

Maybe just even an in-game chat with mmo style channels so we could have a goon group.

SO MUCH POTENTIAL.

everythingWasBees
Jan 9, 2013




The game in general has so much potential. If you've ever examined ...gently caress, what it is is escaping me now, but there is something that displays the hierarchy of every civilian in the town.

Or, it was going to. It was never implemented. It's just an empty list.

There's all sorts of things like that in the game. There was even an entire unfinished continent, that only now, with Elona+, is being filled in.
And that's only a small fraction of the world that Noa planned.

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging
So I suffered an attack of stupidity and made a Golem Warrior that I'm playing as an armoured punch elemental. As expected, punching things sucks total poo poo in the early game, but what I didn't realize was that Golems are horribly loving slow. Even stacking a bunch of pieces of glass armour didn't help that much; a lot of enemies are still fast enough to dance around annoyingly shooting at me (public performers!! :argh:).

I did find some neat gear though and I'm absurdly rich due to moongate raiding, but I just feel like this was a really bad idea for a character. Maybe I'll take another crack at making a Gunner and use moongate riches to buy a ludicrous super cannon from a random map merchant or something.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Moongates have things that aren't immediate, painful death?

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

Agean90 posted:

Moongates have things that aren't immediate, painful death?

Uncle Jam posted:

Gaming the moongates are great.



Its about 1 million, but great for starting out for sure.
The name was something something ]uma version 2.0

Look for any moongate destination that has "]uma" in it somewhere, chances are it has a million kitty banks you can smash for a cool million or so.

Miijhal
Jul 10, 2011

I am so tired... I am so tired all the time...

Corridor posted:

Also here is my bald green baby and the white kitten that lives in my home and is super cute, gently caress Mia's quest. Related note, is there any way to make the pixels bigger in this drat game? Increasing or decreasing the resolution just changes the window size. I swear that when I last played vanilla Elona, everything was twice the size. Maybe it's just my monitor... :(


It's not the resolution that's the difference. Elona+ has smaller sprites than vanilla, probably so they match the rest of the game's sprites, and to remove some of the RPG Maker holdovers.

maketakunai
Jan 11, 2006

What do you mean,
"it's only a game"?!

Devor posted:

It's one tile west of where my dude is standing - this is like 5 tiles north of the Embassy where you pay taxes, north of Palmia.



When you're comparing to the world map on the the wiki, ignore grass/trees - those changed a bunch in Elona+. Mountains are still pretty good.

Updated Elona+ World Map here.

edit: That was a lie and the wrong link. Link fixed.

maketakunai fucked around with this message at 05:19 on May 6, 2013

Devor
Nov 30, 2004
Lurking more.

Angry Diplomat posted:

So I suffered an attack of stupidity and made a Golem Warrior that I'm playing as an armoured punch elemental. As expected, punching things sucks total poo poo in the early game, but what I didn't realize was that Golems are horribly loving slow. Even stacking a bunch of pieces of glass armour didn't help that much; a lot of enemies are still fast enough to dance around annoyingly shooting at me (public performers!! :argh:).

I did find some neat gear though and I'm absurdly rich due to moongate raiding, but I just feel like this was a really bad idea for a character. Maybe I'll take another crack at making a Gunner and use moongate riches to buy a ludicrous super cannon from a random map merchant or something.

Learn Riding, buy a horse in Yowyn, and profit! Riding is neat, it takes the speed of your mount-type ally, reduces it some based on your riding skill, then uses that for your speed instead of your own speed. As long as you're mounted, you could have 1 speed, and it wouldn't matter. If your mount dies you go back to being slow until you resurrect it, of course.

Even when you're super low skill (it trains really quickly!) you'll almost certainly be going at "normal" speed while mounted. When you can buy better mounts, they get speedier, too! And you can put speed equipment on your mount - by default I think horses just have 2 'leg' slots for shoes/boots.

You just hit 'a' to bring up the skill menu, then target your mount while they're adjacent to you.

Corridor
Oct 19, 2006

Devor posted:

It's one tile west of where my dude is standing - this is like 5 tiles north of the Embassy where you pay taxes, north of Palmia.



When you're comparing to the world map on the the wiki, ignore grass/trees - those changed a bunch in Elona+. Mountains are still pretty good.

Thanks, I got the treysure. :)

So I checked the pet evolution chart and holy crap, those hearts are insanely unfairly rare. You can't even wish for them. There goes any possibility of me evolving stuff.

The sheep evolution looks crazy as poo poo though. :stare:

BitterCharisma
Feb 28, 2012
I was playing around as a pianist, and I've generally noticed that whenever I dropped my piano to play, and whenever I was done with the party time missions. It loving disappeared. Also the wells keep impregnating my team.

Is it viable to level up traveling, so that I can just walk around, and level everything up that way? Or is just getting traveling enough?

V Yes just go to Options > Screens and Sounds, and you'll be able to change the settings.

BitterCharisma fucked around with this message at 06:30 on May 6, 2013

Scalding Coffee
Jun 26, 2006

You're already dead
Is there a way to up the resolution?

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.
Still cant get it above laptop size for some reason.

Reive
May 21, 2009

Scalding Coffee posted:

Is there a way to up the resolution?

Yeah but changing it doesn't make it bigger, it only extends what you can see at once while leaving everything at the same size, so if you want it big then just set it to 800x600 and fullscreen, it's pixels so it doesn't look too bad.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

BitterCharisma posted:

I was playing around as a pianist, and I've generally noticed that whenever I dropped my piano to play, and whenever I was done with the party time missions. It loving disappeared. Also the wells keep impregnating my team.

Don't ever carry that piano around. I mean, maybe for weightlifting practice but that's it. Carrying a grand piano around to busk with is as stupid as it looks and sounds like. There's a six stone horn you can play from your inventory in the graveyard just east of Lumiest that will hopefully tide you over till you get a harmonica from a level 20+ general goods vendor. Don't lose the loving horn though.

quote:

Is it viable to level up traveling, so that I can just walk around, and level everything up that way? Or is just getting traveling enough?

Apparently yes but it would be slower than actually training your skills the right way. After a dozen or so hours played and a lot of hiking, travelling has bumped the skills I don't actively train to 12-14 which is loving AMAZING if you ever had to put up with vanilla. Which doesn't exist anymore as far as I am concerned. However you're still gonna need piles and piles of plat or high level potions. Or both. Luckily all the mission types are actually loving doable now and the plat flows like wine at a Roman party, and there's the new god which gets you 10 per month and whatever you can get the goose to poo poo out, once you've obtained your second gift.

For those of you who never played vanilla, the easiest gardening, hunting, and party quests required an absolute minimum skill of 15 or so. The one $ hunting quests would instantly own a new character, and you wouldn't even get CLOSE to the laughable goals of the simplest gardening/party quests. So you were literally limited to ONLY the fetch quests and maybe some escorts to get the hundreds of plat you need for starting skills and to start grinding the ones you have. Grinding performer was loving awful. Instead now I'm pretty much just leaving it alone except for pumping some plat in now and then, and it's SIXTEEN already HOLY poo poo.

One thing pisses me off about the new version. I'm grinding up level 3 with the god of maniacal laughter and rocks and poo poo and my GOD DAMNED platina bell keeps loving NINJAING my god damned JUNK STONES, gently caress. Then when I try to trade for them it says, 'that's mine' NO gently caress YOU IT BELONGS TO GOD. Also I am your literal owner. I have dominated your mind and loving spirit. GIMME STONE.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

Nathilus posted:

Apparently yes but it would be slower than actually training your skills the right way. After a dozen or so hours played and a lot of hiking, travelling has bumped the skills I don't actively train to 12-14 which is loving AMAZING if you ever had to put up with vanilla. Which doesn't exist anymore as far as I am concerned. However you're still gonna need piles and piles of plat or high level potions. Or both. Luckily all the mission types are actually loving doable now and the plat flows like wine at a Roman party, and there's the new god which gets you 10 per month and whatever you can get the goose to poo poo out, once you've obtained your second gift.

That goose is completely non-functional. I've never gotten a drat thing out of it.

Dr Pepper
Feb 4, 2012

Don't like it? well...

everythingWasBees posted:

There's all sorts of things like that in the game. There was even an entire unfinished continent, that only now, with Elona+, is being filled in.
And that's only a small fraction of the world that Noa planned.

Elona really gives me the feeling that I just was dropped into a world with a bunch of stuff happening even without my input.

I mean, those two characters from the tutorial don't appear in any story again, you have a bunch of crazy stuff in each area and in the starter town there's a guy holding a sword that can bring about the end of the world.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Nathilus posted:

GIMME STONE.

So beat your bell with a tamer's whip, and it'll be nice and behaved and leave shiny rocks and corpses alone.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

Stelas posted:

So beat your bell with a tamer's whip, and it'll be nice and behaved and leave shiny rocks and corpses alone.

Oh! Well then! Gonna beat the ninja out of the sucker in that case.

some old car parts
Aug 2, 2011

Makes me a very poor man
So just wanted to say thanks for the Juma tip, ended up with about 1,5 million in kitty banks so far.
Kinda interesting how you can just bash them and you get to keep the money.

BitterCharisma
Feb 28, 2012
What I meant to say was that if it's worth dumping plat into traveling. I have 17 Plats already, and I want to see if it's worth dumping them all so that I can get 200% traveling potential so that I can level it passively, and thus get more gains from it. I mean, my little girls seem to be getting a poo poo ton of XP from traveling alone.

Also I carried it around because it had 200 quality instead of the 70 quality that the harmonica has.

Nathilus
Apr 4, 2002

I alone can see through the media bias.

I'm also stupid on a scale that can only be measured in Reddits.

BitterCharisma posted:

What I meant to say was that if it's worth dumping plat into traveling. I have 17 Plats already, and I want to see if it's worth dumping them all so that I can get 200% traveling potential so that I can level it passively, and thus get more gains from it. I mean, my little girls seem to be getting a poo poo ton of XP from traveling alone.

Yes it's worth pumping. Keep in mind that travelling raising your other skills will mean their potential will degrade too. More quickly than you can keep up with, most likely.

ChaoticGood
May 7, 2010

Dr Pepper posted:

Elona really gives me the feeling that I just was dropped into a world with a bunch of stuff happening even without my input.

I mean, those two characters from the tutorial don't appear in any story again, you have a bunch of crazy stuff in each area and in the starter town there's a guy holding a sword that can bring about the end of the world.

The Japanese version actually has a story with cutscenes, but they don't play in the English version since they haven't been translated. The Ragnarok guy and Loyter are story related, so he's not meant to be completely random.

maketakunai
Jan 11, 2006

What do you mean,
"it's only a game"?!

Verviticus posted:

That goose is completely non-functional. I've never gotten a drat thing out of it.
It's exactly the same as the cute fairy, feed it something when it's hungry and it drops a platinum coin, like how the cute fairy spews up seeds. Use a stethoscope on it to check its health, the color for "hungry" and "not hungry" are different (one's red and one's blue).

A Fancy 400 lbs
Jul 24, 2008
It took me WAY too long to figure out you have to deposit your harvested fruits/veggies in the box to not fail the Harvest quests.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Verviticus posted:

That goose is completely non-functional. I've never gotten a drat thing out of it.

Have you been feeding it cooked food or corpses? The wiki states it has to be the latter, and even then I'm not sure if it'll accept actual animal corpses or the generic 'corpse' you sometimes find in shops.

some old car parts
Aug 2, 2011

Makes me a very poor man
So i'm wondering if my pets pick up money that's on the ground how do I actually get it back from them?

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

You don't. They'll blow it on training next time you're in a town.

Ignatius M. Meen
May 26, 2011

Hello yes I heard there was a lovely trainwreck here and...

They use money to train their potentials, so the answer as I understand it is if they've picked it up, it's gone. Use a tamer's whip and they won't pick things up of their own accord.

NewtGoongrich
Jan 21, 2012
I am a shit stain on the face of humanity, I have no compassion, only hatred, bile and lust.

PROUD SHIT STAIN
Well, now I need that evolved sheep :stare:

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Bleu
Jul 19, 2006

Stelas posted:

Have you been feeding it cooked food or corpses? The wiki states it has to be the latter, and even then I'm not sure if it'll accept actual animal corpses or the generic 'corpse' you sometimes find in shops.

I actually edited that in v:3:v When I had the goose, my experiences were that I could only reliably pry a platinum out of its fat beak whenever I gave it a corpse immediately after waking up from bed. Loading a new map or feeding it anything else broke it for the day.

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