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My mom and grandma are Jews from Hungary, I grew up listnening to them speak the language an watching kids shows from there and I always wanted to visit. I'm afraid to now.
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 (Not saying that Christian aversion to contraceptives doesn't contribute to the epidemic, but the main causes are poverty, overpopulation and lack of education) Captain_Maclaine posted:If you know, are these modern right-wing nationalists generally royalists, or is there more of a connection to Hungarian fascism ala the Arrow Cross? Generally speaking, they tend more towards either the conservative authoritarian Horthy model of government or the Arrow Cross variety of fascism. While monarchist symbolism is still widespread in Hungary (the Crown being at the centre of this), I'd think that the fact that the Habsburgs are essentially a "foreign" dynasty would be reason enough for most nationalists to reject monarchical restoration. It is interesting to note that in the early years after WWI Charles I tried to regain the throne in Hungary twice, both times without any success. The Horthy governement refused to support him, even though from 1920 to 1944 Hungary legally was a monarchy without a king (hence Horthy's title of 'regent'). This was mostly grounded in political reality though, as Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia threatened to militarily intervene in case of any restoration attempts. That's not saying that Hungarian monarchism doesn't exist, though! It seems to be a rather minuscule force in today's politics, however. Most of the Hungarian far right is irredentist in goal and authoritarian/fascist in ideology, but not monarchist. e: somehow overlooked this: Rhinoceraptor posted:My mom and grandma are Jews from Hungary, I grew up listnening to them speak the language an watching kids shows from there and I always wanted to visit. I'm afraid to now. You needn't be. While anti-semitism undoubtedly is on the rise in Hungary, you as a (presumably) American tourist would have nothing to fear, at least not in Budapest. While there I still saw orthodox Jews on the streets, and the only openly anti-semitic attack I know of was at a football match when someone asked the other people in the audience to stop chanting anti-semitic slurs. Still terrible and reprehensible, but it's not like the synagogues are burning. As long as you don't draw attention by the wrong people to your heritage (and I know that this constriction is pretty hosed up), you should be in no danger. And HUngary really is a beautiful country! System Metternich fucked around with this message at 09:23 on May 7, 2013 |
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May 7, 2013 11:13
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Women of the Mexican Revolution:    Anarchist militia women in the Spanish civil war  Second world war Night witches  Second world war, US: 
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May 7, 2013 11:32
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Am I crazy or are the first few pages of Google results pretty right-wing anymore? The other day I was trying to find examples of egregious lies in Bob Jones University Press homeschool texts but everything Google gave me was pro-homeschool 
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May 7, 2013 12:11
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ekuNNN posted:Second world war Night witches Oh come on, at least mention the WAC.
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ptk posted:NESARA is the best conspiracy theory. 
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May 7, 2013 12:59
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cyberbully posted:The chin is one defining factor between anatomically modern homo sapiens skulls from archaic homo sapiens That's on the main common of the University of Southern Indiana. I went to an anti-war protest there and was told "political functions are not allowed on the common", the next day some preacher was on the common calling women who had premarital sex whores. Unrelated, I've been seeing these signs everywhere. People are trying to frame abortion as an infringement on their 1st amendment rights. (insert picture of  vomiting smaller )
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System Metternich posted:The Old Hungarian alphabet (which had become basically obsolete by the 11th century) has turned into a popular symbol for right-wing nationalists, comparable to Germanic/Nordic runes, and can be seen more and more often. This pub is a popular meeting place for young nationalists.  
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From a collection of 50 Dutch work safety posters, some of them look like posters for horror films. They originally came from http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/ which seem to have a metric ton of historical Dutch posters.
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May 7, 2013 14:31
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May 7, 2013 15:10
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Kavak posted:Oh come on, at least mention the WAC. And the Women Airforce Service Pilots.  Crocuta posted:From a collection of 50 Dutch work safety posters, some of them look like posters for horror films. They originally came from http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/ which seem to have a metric ton of historical Dutch posters. This looks like a Mechanicus poster from WH40K: Beware, brother, the Omnissiah is watching.
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May 7, 2013 15:33
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Rhinoceraptor posted:My mom and grandma are Jews from Hungary, I grew up listnening to them speak the language an watching kids shows from there and I always wanted to visit. I'm afraid to now. This is terrific, what a good idea.  unfortunate c-span framing
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May 7, 2013 15:53
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Kavak posted:Oh come on, at least mention the WAC. Oh, haha, that wasn't on purpose. Those were just the women in war pictures that I found recently v  vZSK - Antifascista https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q15qLdQ9bNM
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May 7, 2013 17:47
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Sir Tonk posted:
It's been done before though: 
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Kavak posted:Oh come on, at least mention the WAC. Well to be honest, neither the WAC nor the WASP were allowed to serve in combat roles and were often treated as glorified secretaries by their male colleagues. On the other hand, during the Spanish Civil war amongst the C.N.T.-F.A.I. women were leaders and active participants shaping the revolution (to the point that the propaganda against the Republicans by the Catholic Church and fascists was that women were too 'free'). In WWII with the Soviet union you have around 500,000 women in combat at any given time, many acting as officers. I understand the importance of the WAC and WASP within the US and UK, but they should not be held in equal terms to what was happening around the world in places like the Spanish Republic and USSR Also: NRA Vendor Sells Ex-Girlfriend Target That Bleeds When You Shoot It 
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May 7, 2013 18:08
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Looks like Andrew W.K. with boobies. Brazilian cancer awareness organization AAPEC's mascot, Sr. Testículo, is a big hit at the 9th Horse and Mule Festival in Viçosa.
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^^^^^^^^^^KREMLIN AT ME BRO let the poo poo storm begin  
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May 7, 2013 19:58
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Peanut President posted:Unrelated, I've been seeing these signs everywhere. People are trying to frame abortion as an infringement on their 1st amendment rights. (insert picture of This will be valuable to have on hand in the future, I'd wager. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfelqZpapZA Political content:  This is Colbert Busch casting her vote today. This is also the image Getty decided to push out over the wires. Oops.
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Ongoing right now: the DE Senate is debating marriage equality on the floor. The House passed it a few weeks ago and Gov. Markell has given his support, so if it passes today Delaware will be the 11th state in the union to legalize same-sex marriage. According to my partner, an activist here in Delaware, there are 21 total votes, 9 have been promised to support same-sex marriage, 7 have been promised against it, and the remaining 5 are up in the air. As a queer Delawarian, I so hope my state does the right thing.
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I didn't pay much attention to that years long hostage thing but I'm glad that CNN managed to bungle it again Here's nancy grace satellite interviewing another reporter, who appears to be in the exact same parking lot. Pay attention to the vehicles behind them. some more   there's gotta be a video I can see this in. 
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quiggy posted:Ongoing right now: the DE Senate is debating marriage equality on the floor. The House passed it a few weeks ago and Gov. Markell has given his support, so if it passes today Delaware will be the 11th state in the union to legalize same-sex marriage. According to my partner, an activist here in Delaware, there are 21 total votes, 9 have been promised to support same-sex marriage, 7 have been promised against it, and the remaining 5 are up in the air. As a queer Delawarian, I so hope my state does the right thing. And after a period of heated debate, the result is...  We did it! Highlights include a failed last-ditch motion to table the bill and state senator Karen Peterson coming out as gay and in a civil union with her partner of 24 years during the debate. My girlfriend and I can get married now 
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quiggy posted:Ongoing right now: the DE Senate is debating marriage equality on the floor. The House passed it a few weeks ago and Gov. Markell has given his support, so if it passes today Delaware will be the 11th state in the union to legalize same-sex marriage. According to my partner, an activist here in Delaware, there are 21 total votes, 9 have been promised to support same-sex marriage, 7 have been promised against it, and the remaining 5 are up in the air. As a queer Delawarian, I so hope my state does the right thing. If that doesn't work you can always come to Maryland until you guys get it right!  Edit: you should still come to Maryland for vacation some time 
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Mauser posted:If that doesn't work you can always come to Maryland until you guys get it right! My sister lives in Maryland is getting married down there this summer, I'm always down for a vacation trip to Baltimore though   Karen Peterson, the senator who came out during the debate. Thanks so much Karen, I know that must have been incredibly difficult for you but it was worth it for the rest of us.
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quiggy posted:And after a period of heated debate, the result is...  Seriously though, that's awesome, good job Delaware, and super cool to have a senator come out during the debate
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Free French colonial soldiers equiped with what looks like a Bren gun and a US springfield rifle, logistics  
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Dusseldorf posted:Did I do this right? What site is this?  e: Nevermind found it http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ Moist von Lipwig fucked around with this message at 23:00 on May 7, 2013 |
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ughhhh posted:Well to be honest, neither the WAC nor the WASP were allowed to serve in combat roles and were often treated as glorified secretaries by their male colleagues. On the other hand, during the Spanish Civil war amongst the C.N.T.-F.A.I. women were leaders and active participants shaping the revolution (to the point that the propaganda against the Republicans by the Catholic Church and fascists was that women were too 'free'). In WWII with the Soviet union you have around 500,000 women in combat at any given time, many acting as officers. I understand the importance of the WAC and WASP within the US and UK, but they should not be held in equal terms to what was happening around the world in places like the Spanish Republic and USSR They also have a target that Totally Isn't The President, Guys!  http://zombieindustries.com/shop/rocky-zombie/ 
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Gozinbulx posted:What am I supposed to be seeing? Click the map image and it leads to the explanation. (The Bank on St.Laurent stands where the Jewish Requirement WW1 center existed)  
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 This is the Darien Chest, in which all the documents regarding the Scottish colonisation of the Americas were kept. You never heard of this (I sure didn't)? At the end of the 17th century, Scotland was in a bad shape, as its economy was small and had no means of protecting itself against English politics. England (which was linked to Scotland via a personal union, i.e. the two nations shared the same monarch) exerted a great deal of economic power over its smaller neighbour, much to the dismay of the traditional Scottish elites. As a series of crop failures added to the crisis, calls for a custom union or even a merging with England were answered by the Scottish governement with a new idea: what if Scotland could gain a colonial foothold in the Americas? Smallish states like Portugal or the Netherlands were gaining vast riches out of their colonies, why not add Scotland to that list? In 1695, the "Company of Scotland Trading to Africa and the Indies" was created by an act of parliament with the monopoly on all Scottish tradewith India, Africa and the Americas. The company was plagued by many problems from the very beginning; the English East India Company immediately tried to kill off its competitor by forcing English and Dutch (the Netherlands were linked to England/Scotland by a personal union as well at that time) investors to withdraw. Investors outside of the territories ruled by King William III had to be refunded after the English threatened to sue, as the Company of Scotland hadn't managed to get official royal support for fundraising outside of William's realms. This meant that all of the Company's money had to come from Scotland itself. Finally, the executive board was divided by different business interests, namely whether to invest in the East Indies or the Americas.  Who was behind this enterprise? The main proponent was Sir William Paterson (1658-1719), a Scottish banker who as a young adult had spent some time in the Americas where he first got the idea of a Scottish colony in Central America. After his return to Europe, he became one of the founders of the Bank of England, returned to Scotland in 1695 and managed to convince the Scottish Lord High Commissioner (i.e. the direct representative of the king in the Scottish parliament) to support his ideas in parliament. He dreamed of a Scottish-controlled trade hub in the Guld of Darién, east of the isthmus of Panama and described to his investors in great detail that no, Darién wasn't claimed by the Spanish, the ground was fertile, the climate great and the sea full of edible turtles. Within a short time, the Company managed to gather the sum of 400,000 pounds, all from Scotland. That constituted roughly a fifth of the total wealth of Scotland, so the entire thing was a huge risk by both the Scottish elites and the government. The entire scheme proved to be a massive failure. In 1698, the first expedition set sail towards the Americas, with about 1,200 people on five ships. The fact that they had to go from the Scottish east coast in Leith and to keep their passengers below deck so as to not draw the attention of English warships (which couldn't be trusted to let the expedition pass, owing to the influence of the English East India Company) should in hindsight have been the first massive warning sign to all participants that the whole thing was doomed to fail. Paterson himself was part of the expedition, alongside with his wife and his infant son. In October the ships arrived in the Caribbean, claiming an uninhabited island between Puerto Rico and St Thomas for the Scottish Crown, only to be told shortly afterwards by an English officer that the island already belonged to Denmark and that they should gently caress off pronto. Under the guidance of a pirate Paterson had known since his days in the Americas, the settlers continued towards Darién.  On November 2nd, the ships reached their destination and made first contact with the resident natives, which were very glad to see Europeans that weren't Spanish agents. The settlers constructed a fort towering over their harbour, christening it "Fort St Andrew". On the other side of the mountain they started "New Edinburgh", the actual settlement. And from then on, absolutely everything went horribly wrong. Paterson secretary succumbed to dysentery on the very day of their arrival, his wife and child following shortly afterwards. Near permanent rain made agriculture next to impossible, the natives showed no interest in the trinkets and goods brought by the settlers (and therefore wouldn't trade food with them outside of a small stream of more or less regular gifts). It turned out that almost no sailors were passing the area, and the few that were didn't purchase anything. Most of the food the settlers had brought with them had rotted due to improper stewing. The following ship that was supposed to deliver additional supplies already sank in Scottish waters. During the following summer, the mortality rate rose on some days to ten people a day. Most hadn't even enough strength left to go turtle hunting, so booze was pretty much everything that was left and hadn't gotten spoiled yet. The remaining settlers were drunk off their rear end most of the time, as they watched as their numbers dwindled more and more. Meanwhile, King William had issued an edict explicitly forbidding any support of the colony - England was at war with France at the time and didn't want to anger its ally Spain. Still, letters sent home by the setters described New Caledonia as something of a paradise and claimed that everything was going according to plan. They probably knew that the financial security of the entire nation was at stake, or were they simply too proud to concede defeat? I don't know. When a small detachment of Spanish soldiers entered the area and attacked the fort, the remaining settlers finally had enough, though: after eight months of horror, the survivors left the colony hurriedly. Six people who had been too weak to move had to remain in the settlement, slowly starving there. Only one ship arrived back in Glasgow on November 21, 1699. Only 300 people had survived the whole ordeal.  The flag of the Company The positive letters the first expedition kept sending had a horrible consequence though, as during the autumn of 1699, a second group of about 1000 settlers set sail towards Darién, arriving there on November 30. Amazingly, they managed to find a small number of survivors from the first wave there, including a certain Thomas Drummond, who had accompanied the first expedition as a military advisor and was guilty of participating in the Massacre of Glencoe as well, in which 78 civilians were slaughtered following the Glorious Revolution. Drummond insisted that the fort had to be rebuilt immediately, as the Spanish could return any day now. The second settlers were very annoyed by that, seeing that they hadn't expected to arrive in a fever-ridden hellhole but a thriving little colony. Dummond was finally arrested, with the self-proclaimed leader of the new settlement James Byes becoming highly paranoid, throwing everybody into the surrounding jungles that caught his mistrust. Byres eventually left the settlement in a small boat, and the remaining settlers became apathetic and helpless. A small spark of hope was ignited again, as new faces of the Company arrived, most prominently Alexander Campbell of Fonab. Campbell had the order to organise the settlement's defences and proved to be surprisingly competent. He realised that the only hope of surviving against the Spanish forces was by taking them by surprise, and so he set out to attack the nearby Spanish stockade of Toubacanti in January 1700. The daring operation was successful, and the Spanish fled - Campbell himself was wounded, however, and consequently incapacitated by fever. Without him, all remnants of leadership were pretty much lost, and so it was no surprise when the Spanish managed to return with a larger force soon afterwards, laying siege to the fort for a month. The settlers only surrendered after the Spanish commander threatened to burn down the entire fort and were forced to sail home again. Of a total of maybe 2,500 settlers, only a couple hundred survived. What were the consequences of this scheme (besides all the deaths)? After the whole thing had come crashing down, Scotland (and most of its elite) was pretty much bankrupt. Especially in the Lowlands, almost every family had lost some money. There was another desperate attempt by the Company to gain a foothold in the overseas trade, and I'll just quote wikipedia here because this is just an amazing last note to the whole disaster: quote:Hoping to recoup some capital by a more conventional venture, the company sent two ships from the Clyde, the Speedy Return and the Continent, to the Guinea coast laden with trade goods. Sea captain Robert Drummond was the master of the Speedy Return; his brother Thomas, who had played such a part in the second expedition, was supercargo on the vessel. Neither ship was seen in Scotland again. Instead of seeking to sell for gold as the company's directors intended, the Drummonds exchanged the goods for slaves which they sold in Madagascar. Carousing with the buccaneers for whom the island was a refuge, the Drummonds fell in with the pirate John Bowen of Bermuda who offered loot if they lent the Scots ships to him for a raid on homeward bound Indiamen. Robert Drummond was initially persuaded but backed out of the agreement, only for Bowen to appropriate the ships while he was ashore. The Continent was lost to fire on the Malabar coast and Bowen scuttled the Speedy Return after transferring to a merchant ship he had taken. The Drummonds decided against returning to Scotland to explain the loss of the ships they had been entrusted with, and no more was heard of the brothers. The political consequences were even more drastic. Yet another attempt of the Company went awry when the Annandale was sent towards the East Indies where it should enter the spice trade. It was seized almost immediately by the English, however, which in turn caused a huge uproar in Scotland with three innocent English sailors being scapegoated and hanged. The Company never managed to gather the funds for another try, though, and many Scottish nobles had to face the dire reality of bankruptcy. The English government agreed to stabilise the Scottish Pound, and hinted at a possible recompensation for the losses as long as Scotland would agree to a political union. They got what they wanted: in 1707, the Act of Union between England and Scotland was signed into law, and the disaster of Scotland's first and only colonial enterprise played no small part in it.
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There was a documentary a couple of months ago about it on BBC but for the life of me I can't remember the name of it, otherwise I would post it.  
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 From the horrid Facebook group "Patriot Ordnance Friday". One of the comments on the image is "An armed society is a polite society. Period". But we're not racist guys honest
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ozza posted:
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You know who else Loves New York? THAT'S RIGHT. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jewish-leaders-glenn-beck-apology-comparing-bloomberg-hitler/story?id=19119684#.UYmPqdzrz1s Edit: It's cool guys - It was supposed to be Lenin quote:Editor's note: This story has been updated to reflect that a source close to Glenn Beck told ABC News after the story was initially published that the image that appeared during his NRA speech was based on a famous photo of Vladimir Lenin and was not a Nazi reference. Beck could not be reached for comment before the story was first published.
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The Trib got a real genius letter to the editor today:
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Sex Hobbit posted:The Trib got a real genius letter to the editor today: Of course he's from the loving suburbs, too. I think Chicago's suburbs are almost worse than Milwaukee's. 
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