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Amused to Death posted:Where are we getting 600 million? That's the current US population I have no clue where the number came from, honestly they probably just pulled it out of a hat because, as you and others have pointed out it makes absolutely no sense. This was just overheard at work and not a conversation I wanted to get involved in that I brought here because I really had no idea how they could come to this conclusion and, to be perfectly honest, was hoping it wasn't a conclusion they'd come too themselves because I really, really want to pretend they were just parroting a meme. Because if this was the kind of thing they thought up on their own its just unbelievably ... cruel isn't quite the right word, but completely ignorant of the emotional and economic situations that a person making the choice to pursue an abortion would likely be experiencing. It probably won't surprise anyone that this conversation took place with Rush (or was it Herman Cain) droning on in the background. 
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Well those aborted babies would have had babies and then those babies would have had babies etc...
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May 7, 2013 23:50
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FCKGW posted:Well those aborted babies would have had babies and then those babies would have had babies etc... And since, as every true patriot knows from listening to Margaret Sanger and her anti-American ramblings, that most of these children would have been of the black race who we know to have many more children than the average American.
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May 8, 2013 00:17
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Well... this is a thing from my Facebook feed which is usually pretty tame fare:quote:
I mean aside from being shitthatdidn'thappen.txt it's also one of the more convoluted arguments I've ever seen. PPACA is like a free house with undefined terms of agreement and the legal authority of being written on a napkin, I think? 
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May 8, 2013 01:08
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Mo_Steel posted:Well... this is a thing from my Facebook feed which is usually pretty tame fare: Ahahahaha, I love the little shout-out to gun rights at the end there.
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May 8, 2013 01:14
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I always get confused when I see quotations about the Native Americans pop up in pro-gun arguments, since they're usually by the same people that would shout you down if you told them that the United States did indeed engage in systematic genocide of its indigenous population.
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May 8, 2013 01:20
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quote:I heard a young man exclaim, "Isn't Obama like Jesus Christ? I mean, I love this because the guy making it up couldn't even keep his talking points out of the stupid young people's dialogue.
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May 8, 2013 01:39
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Reminder that the Native Americans were only made wards of the US government because white people hated that their communal property system was so good at taking care of the tribes.
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May 8, 2013 01:46
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Mo_Steel posted:Well... this is a thing from my Facebook feed which is usually pretty tame fare: in that I don't even know where to begin.I think a more accurate metaphor would be that you're trying to get a home loan and you heard that a bank is offering better rates for people like you with mixed credit scores, but when you go there, there's a big mob of guys who won't stop screaming that that bank is going to slip in a clause where they get to kill your grandma and take your children, and they're screaming so loud that you can barely even hear the actual banker as she's trying to explain the terms of the loan.
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May 8, 2013 02:56
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My favorite part of this is that the kid just could have torn up the napkin and kept the keys. Does this person really think you could enforce such a useless contract, written on a napkin?
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May 8, 2013 03:03
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Sir Rolo posted:My favorite part of this is that the kid just could have torn up the napkin and kept the keys. Does this person really think you could enforce such a useless contract, written on a napkin? The author thinks you can force someone into literal slavery by getting them to sign a poorly worded document that says "you can have my house as long as you do whatever I say". Even if it was on legal letterhead and signed in front of a notary, this poo poo would be laughable.
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May 8, 2013 03:53
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Contracts are the most important thing in society.* *Except social contract.
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May 8, 2013 04:22
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This got posted on FB with a challenge for me to refute it. Could I please get some help?quote:Obama's list of accomplishments:
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May 8, 2013 04:27
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SalTheBard posted:This got posted on FB with a challenge for me to refute it. Could I please get some help? The debt is higher, but the deficit is lower.
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May 8, 2013 04:30
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You could spend almost a book's worth of narrative unpacking all the bullshit from the inaccurate or blatantly false talking points commentary in that list. Some of that stuff is phrased in such a way that I doubt you'd ever change their opinion, e.g.: Benghazi. Statements on Obamacare are subjective as hell and don't invite honest discussion. Honestly I'd tell him that if he was really interested in having you legitimately take the time to respond back to that list because he genuinely wants to know your thoughts he needs to take the time to strip out all the talking points bullshit first. Then provide you with something sourced or even if not sourced, at least as neutrally presented as possible. Sure it is a punt but you will have 0 meaningful interaction with this person anyways based on how they phrased that list to you.
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May 8, 2013 04:43
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Man, the owner at miataturbo is on fire!!quote:some in this thread, still maintain their friend in Bengazhi was killed in response to him producing a disgusting video about muslims. They also maintain that Trayvon was murdered by a racist kid out for black blood. This is just what they do, because tragedies are good at exploiting the agenda and repeating the same tired talking points and distracting us from real conversation that goes against their narrow mindset. 
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May 8, 2013 04:45
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SalTheBard posted:This got posted on FB with a challenge for me to refute it. Could I please get some help? quote:Obama's list of accomplishments: quote:-Homeland Security: five terrorist attacks under his watch; Fast & Furious...deaths of hundreds quote:-Benghazi: allowed four men to be murdered in an effort to secure his reelection quote:-Gun Control: couldn't even get his own party on board in an effort to change the US Constitution quote:-Commander in Chief: failed to get our troops out of Afghanistan after promising to do so during his first campaign (actually deploying more and more to Africa everyday); failed to close Guatanamo Bay after promising to do so during his first campaign; cut military budget and forces to bare bones quote:-Sequestration: sacrificed careers and family incomes just to make a point and try to make the GOP look bad...all could have been avoided; promised in a debate with Romney that sequestration would not happen if he was elected...he lied quote:-Foreign Policy: armed and funded the Muslim Brotherhood quote:-Taxes: he promised no new taxes on the middle class which was not only a joke, but a blatant lie...he knew all along everyone's taxes were going to go up significantly; now supporting more sales tax on Internet sales quote:-Budget/Deficit: hahaha...are you kidding??? Raised the national deficit more than all previous presidents combined! Budget? We haven't had one in more than six years! quote:-Unemployment/Jobs: cooked the numbers until after the election, but the actual rate is around 9.8% unemployed (15% for blacks and 21% for under 25 years of age). quote:-Golf/Vacation: more golf and more money spent on vacations by the Obama family than any other president Fuck You And Diebold fucked around with this message at 04:57 on May 8, 2013 |
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May 8, 2013 04:52
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SalTheBard posted:This got posted on FB with a challenge for me to refute it. Could I please get some help? Benghazi: The fastest quick reaction forces available to the US military were mobilized and on their way to Benghazi and the attack ended before they arrived. The embassy in Tripoli organized a force of CIA security, US military, and medical personnel, and flew them to Benghazi who, with Libyan forces, evacuated the CIA annex within a matter of hours. And no, those drones weren't armed. Gun Control: What change to the constitution was that? Gitmo: He got blocked by congress. They were too scared of the big scary terrorists being detained on US soil. Deploying more and more military to Africa everyday: Does he want AFRICOM to be able to deal with situations like Benghazi or not? Cut military budget and forces to bare bones: it's almost like after you end a war, and nearly finish winding down another you don't need a huge military. Does the author of the list want more military or less? He can't seem to decide. Taxes: By tax hikes does this guy mean the expiration of the tax cuts Obama fought to secure? Also internet shoppers are already legally required to pay sales tax, so it's not new. Furthermore sales taxes are state rather than federal to begin with.
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SalTheBard posted:This got posted on FB with a challenge for me to refute it. Could I please get some help? quote:-Obamacare: it's broken, too expensive, and even those that voted for it are running from it (grade: failure) It's still being implemented and won't be compelte until the next round of rules kicks in. Grading it a failure before it's done is about the same as landing a plane on an aircraft carrier to say a war has been won nearly a decade before it's even close to over with. quote:-Homeland Security: five terrorist attacks under his watch; Fast & Furious...deaths of hundreds 9/11, Ohio sniper, Beltway sniper, anthrax express, mailbox pipebomber and several embassy bombings. Deaths of thousands under the watchful eye of the Republican party. Obama has been an improvement. quote:-Benghazi: allowed four men to be murdered in an effort to secure his reelection Do Americans demand blood tributes from presidential candidates now? img-dyingfornatesilverpollnumbers.jpg quote:-Gun Control: couldn't even get his own party on board in an effort to change the US Constitution The Democratic party isn't one homogenous block of politicians. quote:-Commander in Chief: failed to get our troops out of Afghanistan after promising to do so during his first campaign (actually deploying more and more to Africa everyday); failed to close Guatanamo Bay after promising to do so during his first campaign; cut military budget and forces to bare bones I'm not sure if he ever promised to be out of Afghanistan in four years. Plus, didn't Petraeus ask for a slower withdrawal? Guantanamo Bay: he's not a dictator -- he needed congressional support. The DoD budget has grown every single year under Obama. I guess he cut the budget and forces to bare bones by giving them more money? Funny way of cutting their budget by expanding it! quote:-Sequestration: sacrificed careers and family incomes just to make a point and try to make the GOP look bad...all could have been avoided; promised in a debate with Romney that sequestration would not happen if he was elected...he lied The GOP voted for sequestration too. Both parties were involved, both agreed to it. quote:-Foreign Policy: armed and funded the Muslim Brotherhood Where was the outrage during "The Surge" when we armed and funded any Sunnis in Iraq? quote:-Taxes: he promised no new taxes on the middle class which was not only a joke, but a blatant lie...he knew all along everyone's taxes were going to go up significantly; now supporting more sales tax on Internet sales He never raised taxes on the middle class. In fact, he lowered taxes via the payroll tax. Sales tax on internet sales has pretty widespread support, but I supposed they have a point there. quote:-Budget/Deficit: hahaha...are you kidding??? Raised the national deficit more than all previous presidents combined! Budget? We haven't had one in more than six years! The deficit under Obama has shrunk at record pace (I think the fastest since WW2). Also there was that matter of $6 trillion or so that we spent in Iraq and Afghanistan coming onto the books. quote:-Unemployment/Jobs: cooked the numbers until after the election, but the actual rate is around 9.8% unemployed (15% for blacks and 21% for under 25 years of age). How was it cooked? Who did the study to find out the "actual rate" of unemployment? quote:-Golf/Vacation: more golf and more money spent on vacations by the Obama family than any other president http://www.factcheck.org/2011/07/the-traveling-president/ http://www.politicususa.com/cost-obama-christmas-vacation-bush.html Not that it will change their opinions, but, you know, gotta try.
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19 o'clock posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TvWXN7OLfU It's one of Lyndon LaRouche's more benign conspiracy theories; he thinks that A440 is inferior to A432 and... that's about it. No Jew-blaming this time.
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May 8, 2013 05:47
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:Where was the outrage during "The Surge" when we armed and funded any Sunnis in Iraq? I suppose it's easy to conflate the Muslim Brotherhood and Egypt now that Mursi is President. While I wouldn't argue that Mursi is in any independent of the Muslim Brotherhood, there's a pretty loving stark difference between giving old aircraft to a country's military -- which is at odds with the Muslim Brotherhood -- and the actual organization itself.
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May 8, 2013 06:57
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:I'm not sure if he ever promised to be out of Afghanistan in four years. Plus, didn't Petraeus ask for a slower withdrawal? Not only that, but--correct me if I'm wrong here--didn't he very explicitly say in 2008 that he'd be withdrawing troops from Iraq to focus on the "rightful war in Afghanistan"? I could swear it said this very specifically on his 2008 campaign page.
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Argue posted:Not only that, but--correct me if I'm wrong here--didn't he very explicitly say in 2008 that he'd be withdrawing troops from Iraq to focus on the "rightful war in Afghanistan"? I could swear it said this very specifically on his 2008 campaign page. Yep. He never promised a reduction in afghan, just the opposite: a refocusing and reinforcement. Iraq was the war he promised to end, and he "ended it" just a few months longer than promised (but according to the RIF agreement in place). Of course, that became a negative for the right as "he couldn't even renegotiate a new timeline" was somehow something bad/easy to do.
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I know this is a few pages back but I couldn't leave it. I just got back from living in Germany for two years and every class is better off in Germany than in America except rich people. The labor laws are incredibly favorable, free healthcare, a functioning infrastructure, an actual social safety net, and the list goes one. I understand this dude is clearly full of poo poo but it's just SO FAR from the truth it hurts my brain. I hated German weather and the people were not particularly friendly and I'd still give my left testicle to be a German citizen just because I'd be treated like an actual human being.
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SalTheBard posted:This got posted on FB with a challenge for me to refute it. Could I please get some help? http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/
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May 8, 2013 15:31
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Tibeerius posted:In addition to what's already been posted - and if you're feeling glib - you can link to Obama's actual accomplishments: Haha I just linked that.
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May 8, 2013 15:51
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hallebarrysoetoro posted:The Democratic party isn't one homogenous block of politicians. "Couldn't get his own party on board," is just blatantly false. The Senate Republicans scored a coup on Obama's bill; i.e. Democrats were on board, it was the Republicans that promised support for the bill then double-crossed the administration that caused its failure to pass.
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Tibeerius posted:In addition to what's already been posted - and if you're feeling glib - you can link to Obama's actual accomplishments: "Expansion of Medicaid to all individuals under age 65 with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level." Yeah, about that... 
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May 8, 2013 17:59
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XyloJW posted:"Expansion of Medicaid to all individuals under age 65 with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level." Yeah they should add "if you don't have an assholes republican governor"
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Got this one today and was at a loss of where to begin: Yeah, someone fired for disrespecting a superior officer is the exact same as someone who murdered people not being executed without a trial. Seriously, what the gently caress?
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May 8, 2013 18:55
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Internet Webguy posted:Got this one today and was at a loss of where to begin: Not only that he said quote:"I said on there," Stein read, "'As an active-duty Marine, I say, "Screw Obama," and I will not follow the orders from him - all orders from him."' http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57427802/sgt-gary-stein-discharged-for-obama-criticism-scared-not-backing-down/
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May 8, 2013 19:21
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Why do they have to add the ridiculous lie that Hassan is somehow receiving full pay?
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greatn posted:Why do they have to add the ridiculous lie that Hassan is somehow receiving full pay? It wouldn't be full pay but at least in 2011 he retained rank and was receiving a check, which is as it should be, because he hasn't been convicted. I don't know UCMJ well enough to know how it impacts his check, do you? (Not sarcastic, I'm legitimately curious and a little googling didn't turn anything up)
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May 8, 2013 19:57
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Pass a law making it illegal to smile in prison! 
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greatn posted:Why do they have to add the ridiculous lie that Hassan is somehow receiving full pay? Isn't he? From what I read, until he's court martialed, and proven guilty and stripped of rank, he's still a major and still receiving a major's paycheck.
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Crazy forwarded political emails from my family? I get my crazy political emails right from my congressman.  quote:Getting spending under control and promoting self-sufficiency through work are important policy steps for reforming the nation’s massive welfare state, [...] 
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May 8, 2013 21:25
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Internet Webguy posted:Got this one today and was at a loss of where to begin: 'Hassan Terrorist' is the best name ever.
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May 8, 2013 21:37
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Mister Bates posted:'Hassan Terrorist' is the best name ever. You'd think someone would have got suspicious. Although I guess it's racist to assume an arab looking guy called Mr Terrorist is a terrorist
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It's the best possible cover. Remember American Psycho? Being as open as possible about your crazy leanings can keep you from getting noticed at all, especially if it's about something as outragous as murder. Or at least it seems so.
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Mister Bates posted:'Hassan Terrorist' is the best name ever. Makes airline reservations a bitch, though. "It's Te-ROR-rist, you racist bastard."
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