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To be clear, I'm talking about the internal Win32_ComputerSystemProduct UUID, not the UUID of the VM.hackedaccount posted:A couple questions come to mind that might help people answer your question: It's a hosting provider, so I can't say exactly what happened to make it change. They had some major downtime a week or so ago, but the UUID change resulted in a shopping cart process breaking due to some "unknown specific key" error. Can someone with Xen try migrating a VM and just "(get-wmiobject win32_computersystemproduct).uuid" from powershell before and after? I can't believe it'd change, but who knows. Mierdaan fucked around with this message at 23:36 on May 2, 2013 |
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Mierdaan posted:Can someone with Xen try migrating a VM and just "(get-wmiobject win32_computersystemproduct).uuid" from powershell before and after? I can't believe it'd change, but who knows. Once again, running XenServer not straight Xen, but just checked before and after a XenMotion and nothing changed.
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If they had extended downtime I would guess they moved it to a new pool or had some issues that required recreating or resetting VM objects. I meant to see if the XenServer VM UUID matched the value from the WMI info, but I didn't have time to test today and gently caress logging back into work.
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Internet Explorer posted:If they had extended downtime I would guess they moved it to a new pool or had some issues that required recreating or resetting VM objects. I meant to see if the XenServer VM UUID matched the value from the WMI info, but I didn't have time to test today and gently caress logging back into work. Since I am still in the office I just checked this. Windows uuid is different from the vm uuid.
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If you have a VMware 5.1 environment and you need to move the IPs for the vCenter Server installation and the host management IPs is there an easy enough way to do it? In the past I have just recreated the vCenter but I am hoping there is an easier way. EDIT: Also is it normal behavior for it to take forever for a vSphere Client console window to change from black to the desktop? I think it takes 2+ minutes sometimes. Demonachizer fucked around with this message at 13:34 on May 4, 2013 |
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demonachizer posted:Also is it normal behavior for it to take forever for a vSphere Client console window to change from black to the desktop? I think it takes 2+ minutes sometimes. I've been seeing this a lot in 5.1 too. It's probably a bug since our 5.0 cluster doesn't do that. Fake Edit: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2037408 Goon Matchmaker fucked around with this message at 16:06 on May 4, 2013 |
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So the vcenter/sphere 5.0 -> 5.1 migration is a pain? Sigh. I have to do that soon. At least it's a small environment
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Is there anything that would make Hyper-V VMs spike up to 100% CPU, but the physical machine never registers a blip? A few times a day I'm seeing VMs on one box jump to 100%, while the CPU on the box stays around 10%. It's happening to every VM on a particular box, but not to any on other boxes, best I can tell. I'm just having the worst luck with Hyper-V. Half of our environments are Hyper-V, half are vSphere, and the VMware half Just Work. I read things, I do things, and everything is gravy - this is why I basically never post VMware stuff in here, I just learn, then do it. But Hyper-V is out to kill me.
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demonachizer posted:If you have a VMware 5.1 environment and you need to move the IPs for the vCenter Server installation and the host management IPs is there an easy enough way to do it? In the past I have just recreated the vCenter but I am hoping there is an easier way. Yeah use DNS to contact vCenter/hosts. Not trying to be an rear end, but is it really bad if your vCenter is contactable for a little bit? HA will still work, VM's will still run, vDS networks will still work. Only major thing you lose is DRS. Alctel posted:So the vcenter/sphere 5.0 -> 5.1 migration is a pain? Sigh. I have to do that soon. At least it's a small environment It's not really a pain, at least to me it isn't, it's just not next next next as previous vCenter installs were. What is a pain; Replacing the Certs with CA certs on the vCenter in 5.1 is a bitch(and can hose your vcenter/sso/inventory setup), but the automated tool kit is nice for that. Multi-site SSO(you HAVE to do this at first site setup) If you have a small environment 5hosts/50powered on VM's, you can use the vCenter server appliance, which is just SSO/Inventory Service is more of a java wrapper than the windows install is. However it is very simple to deploy. Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 19:11 on May 4, 2013 |
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Is there anything that would make Hyper-V VMs spike up to 100% CPU, but the physical machine never registers a blip? A few times a day I'm seeing VMs on one box jump to 100%, while the CPU on the box stays around 10%. It's happening to every VM on a particular box, but not to any on other boxes, best I can tell.
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Anyone got some good resources on vCloud director? I know a little bit of it but not really indepth. The teachers of the ICM class at my CC asked me to see if I could intergrate my lab environment to vCloud and have it as a provision on demand, destroy after X time. I think it would be great for online offerings, but so far I haven't heard any confirmation on online offerings of ICM/VCAP
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Corvettefisher posted:Anyone got some good resources on vCloud director? TrainSignal's vCloud course will be out in a week or two.
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Has anyone done vSphere 5.1 update 1 yet? I still have flashbacks and cold sweats thinking about 5.0 -> 5.1, but I'm hoping this update is more straight-forward.
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Check with you var essentials probably not, essentials plus would probably be cheaper via a reseller or partner.
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Erwin posted:Has anyone done vSphere 5.1 update 1 yet? I still have flashbacks and cold sweats thinking about 5.0 -> 5.1, but I'm hoping this update is more straight-forward. Hopefully it adds a new more obnoxious credentials management system.
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Quick question.. and probably stupid but in my defense I'm not an admin. We have some VMs running Oracle that we need to update vmtools on. Would it be necessary to shutdown oracle prior to doing this? From my understanding this update doesn't require a reboot.
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Erwin posted:Has anyone done vSphere 5.1 update 1 yet? I still have flashbacks and cold sweats thinking about 5.0 -> 5.1, but I'm hoping this update is more straight-forward. The goon app was really loving up on my phone but yes, the update is very painless and very straight forward. Benefits I saw >halved my ram usage, I am also running the full java 7u17 install >Startup time of SSO/Inventory/vCenter has been reduced greatly >the vSphere client no longer seems sluggish to pull data >Many graph errors are fixed >random bugs and hiccups that required a vcenter restart are gone Only bug that people are reporting is http://blogs.vmware.com/kb/2013/04/alert-login-issue-after-updating-to-vcenter-5-1-update-1.html Here is the update method, it is really simple. THIS DOES NOT MEAN USE SIMPLE INSTALL, what a bugged piece of crap that makes the environment.. GanjamonII posted:Quick question.. and probably stupid but in my defense I'm not an admin. We have some VMs running Oracle that we need to update vmtools on. Would it be necessary to shutdown oracle prior to doing this? From my understanding this update doesn't require a reboot. If you are running ESX 5.1, you are correct, earlier versions of ESX do recommend or require a reboot after tools is installed. If you are on Linux tools generally just needs an X session restarted, Windows requires a reboot. This only applies to pre-5.1 demonachizer posted:Hopefully it adds a new more obnoxious credentials management system. Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 00:50 on May 8, 2013 |
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Windows or Linux guests? Both
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Did my 5.1u1 updates today. Two vcenters and 40 or so hosts. No issues! First time in over a year that a vcenter patch hasn't forced me to do a full roll back at least once. I did get a bit of a panic on when the center update hung on "waiting for services to start" for over half an hour. It did eventually start. Does anyone have a VMware TAM? For the 5k/mo it costs I'm just not seeing a value. They claim 90% of they customers are very happy. I just don't get what they see. Do I just have the wrong tam? Asking them to do the wrong things? What deliverables do you get that you love? parid fucked around with this message at 01:23 on May 8, 2013 |
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Corvettefisher posted:The goon app was really loving up on my phone but yes, the update is very painless and very straight forward. This is the most exciting to me: quote:>the vSphere client no longer seems sluggish to pull data
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What is the software license(s) to get these days for a small VMWare environment (2 hosts). We got Essentials (not Plus) last year over my objections of it not having vMotion. Now I'm preparing a budget proposal and it seems like VMWare changed all the product names. Should I still be looking at just Essentials Plus? Can I get it cheaper through some kind of upgrade deal? I only came here looking for license help and then saw all the talk about upgrades and got that sinking feeling. I've been neglecting my environment and I'm gonna have to get back up to speed again. 
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Cpt.Wacky posted:What is the software license(s) to get these days for a small VMWare environment (2 hosts). We got Essentials (not Plus) last year over my objections of it not having vMotion. Now I'm preparing a budget proposal and it seems like VMWare changed all the product names. Should I still be looking at just Essentials Plus? Can I get it cheaper through some kind of upgrade deal? Essentials plus is really good if you have 3 hosts and don't plan to go over that. 5.1 update 1 did away with the 192GB limit, which means you can now scale 3 hosts, 2 Sockets and >64GB per host. However Essentials and Essentials Plus do not have upgrade paths. http://www.vmware.com/products/datacenter-virtualization/vsphere/pricing.html MSRP the Essentials+(3host/2CPUperhost) will run you around 6k http://store.vmware.com/store?Action=DisplayPage&Env=BASE&Locale=en_US&SiteID=vmware&id=ProductDetailsPage&productID=266980300 MSRP Standard(6 sockets) With Ops Manager will run about 11k Essentials/plus are not upgradable, you just buy another kit. If you go with standard there are upgrade paths. Compare the editions and features find out what you need. If you can spend the extra 5k I would jump on standard for the Storage vMotion, flexibility, and upgradability. Also keep in mind if you have an active SnS you can still get all the cool updates. Call your VAR see what you can do, if it is time for a HW refresh sometimes you can get some slick deals with VMware.
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Thanks. Numbers like $5k give my boss panic attacks but I'll try again this time. Just gonna ask my rep for quotes on both options and see what happens.
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Cpt.Wacky posted:Numbers like $5k give my boss panic attacks but
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Cpt.Wacky posted:Thanks. Numbers like $5k give my boss panic attacks but I'll try again this time. Just gonna ask my rep for quotes on both options and see what happens. How much is your environment worth? Ballpark it. Is 5K really that much now?
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evil_bunnY posted:Move on. I am not joking. Wasn't directed at me, but since the same thing has come up for me in this thread, that's part of why I have an interview tomorrow  I'm getting too old to play MacGyver Sysadmin and cobble awful free solutions together instead of spending $5k to do our core infrastructure right.Ironically the new place is considering moving to a free KVM on OpenStack solution, but they're actually at a scale where the license and support savings are significant instead of amounting to a month of one employee's salary.
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Corvettefisher posted:How much is your environment worth? Ballpark it. Is 5K really that much now? Yeah, I know. Logic like that just bounces right off of him, like he can simply will the solution to cost less. I'm spending my time getting my financial situation in order while I have a steady paying job, and then I'll be looking for other work.
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Cpt.Wacky posted:What is the software license(s) to get these days for a small VMWare environment (2 hosts). We got Essentials (not Plus) last year over my objections of it not having vMotion. Now I'm preparing a budget proposal and it seems like VMWare changed all the product names. Should I still be looking at just Essentials Plus? Can I get it cheaper through some kind of upgrade deal?
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Cpt.Wacky posted:Thanks. Numbers like $5k give my boss panic attacks In all fairness, if you work for a VERY small shop, $5K could be a big investment. (My last job was at a company with 10 people, under $1M annual revenue, and I was the only sysadmin, so I can relate.) Yes, VMware upgrades were a bitch with having to manually down guests, move them around, and so on, which meant the VMware hosts only got upgraded about once every eighteen months, but it's at least vaguely possible.
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For those of you updating to 5.1 U1, here's an update sequence KB article that could save you some trouble: http://kb.vmware.com/kb/2037630. And there does appear to be a known issue documented with regards to waiting up to an hour for the vCenter sevices to start during the update process. Just let it be and do something else; it'll come around.
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Weird Uncle Dave posted:In all fairness, if you work for a VERY small shop, $5K could be a big investment. (My last job was at a company with 10 people, under $1M annual revenue, and I was the only sysadmin, so I can relate.) We aren't that small and there's really no excuse for nickel and diming the infrastructure except that we're a non-profit and anything more than $5k has to be approved by the board. Thanks for the input on the licensing and the unsolicited career advice. I'm going to put off upgrading from 5.0 until we upgrade our storage from RAID 5 SATA drives and have working backups of all the VMs, not just the most important ones. 
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On the subject of vmware licensing, we're going to buy esssentials. Is there any advantage of going with a reseller for this small a purchase or should I just get it from the vmware store?
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It is cheaper on our dell premier account than on the vmware store, but I don't think I'd bother with a reseller to save $50-100 unless you can do it all online with someone you already have an account with.
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On the other hand, it may be helpful to build name recognition with someone who might get you a good deal on a real license somewhere down the line. I think it took us less than 6 months to go from Essentials to Enterprise when we were buying a few years back.
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jre posted:On the subject of vmware licensing, we're going to buy esssentials. Is there any advantage of going with a reseller for this small a purchase or should I just get it from the vmware store? Essentials? Not really. Essentials plus. Yes you'll see a discount.
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Cpt.Wacky posted:We aren't that small and there's really no excuse for nickel and diming the infrastructure except that we're a non-profit and anything more than $5k has to be approved by the board. If you're a qualifying non profit (501 c(3), d-f, or k) you should be able to get around a 40-50% discount through a partner e.g. http://www.ccbnonprofits.com/ssproduct.asp?pf_id=2000000085
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Any Charolette VMware people in here? http://www.vmug.com/p/cm/ld/fid=866 VMug June 6th I am more than likely going to, if anyone is going PM me we can meet up have some brews or something.
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Alright I need training material for the VCAP-DCD to pass at VMworld so I don't have to buy 10000101 bunch of shots and dinner. Push me too the limit!
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