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Bait and Swatch posted:It's not a moral issue, it's an issue of the mundane verses the clever and funny. Locking someone in the air and only saying hello ends up being pretty funny in the retelling. Getting some 14 year old kid to cry by banning him and calling him a bitch will usually just get you blank stares. The first part of that video is rather funny, the ending not so much. I agree with mundane versus clever and funny. Once you're just being assholes back and forth it's not griefing. It's insulting each other over voice chat. That's not really funny. Doubly so when you're being dicks to kids and young teenagers who are just going to scream about raping your mother and calling their friend/relative/whatever who can ban you from whatever or "hack" you. My favorite griefs are where you impose some stupid rule on the players around you and have a way to enforce it. The scout blocking the door and asking trivia questions from TF2 and the Dark Souls Christmas video come to mind. It's not even that you're necessarily ruining someone's game experience, it's just that you make people do whatever you want them to do and if they don't you punish them, and it's hilarious.
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TheSpiritFox posted:I agree with mundane versus clever and funny. Once you're just being assholes back and forth it's not griefing. It's insulting each other over voice chat. That's not really funny. Doubly so when you're being dicks to kids and young teenagers who are just going to scream about raping your mother and calling their friend/relative/whatever who can ban you from whatever or "hack" you. It's adding a game-within-a-game and forcing them to play. This is why No Horse is so great in Wushu - not because you are making people angry so much as forcing them to adjust to new rules, rules that have nothing to do with codes or agreements but have everything to do with power.
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Bait and Swatch posted:It's not a moral issue, it's an issue of the mundane verses the clever and funny. Locking someone in the air and only saying hello ends up being pretty funny in the retelling. Getting some 14 year old kid to cry by banning him and calling him a bitch will usually just get you blank stares. The first part of that video is rather funny, the ending not so much. The humor in both videos is in the grossly disproportionate reaction. One just manages to see the end of the meltdown, the other doesn't catch when the kid's parents come in and ground him for screaming at the computer and smashing their mouse and keyboard, and it's a shame that it doesn't. Magres fucked around with this message at 09:13 on May 9, 2013 |
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Segmentation Fault posted:I don't want to be all "lol gently caress everyone SOMETHINGAWFUL DOT COM" but on the same token you are posting in the griefing thread. Trying to assign some line of morality where a certain form of griefing is okay but another isn't is really dodgy because being an rear end in a top hat over the Internet is the entire point of griefing. Here we go again 
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Bait and Swatch posted:It's not a moral issue, it's an issue of the mundane verses the clever and funny. Locking someone in the air and only saying hello ends up being pretty funny in the retelling. Getting some 14 year old kid to cry by banning him and calling him a bitch will usually just get you blank stares. The first part of that video is rather funny, the ending not so much. nexus6 posted:Here we go again
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May 9, 2013 14:25
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I didn't really watch the end of that video because I got to it an it was just some people quietly telling each other to suck some cocks or something. I personally might draw the line at making children cry. Anyone that sounds over 12 is fair game and all, because preteens and teenagers need to be brought down a peg. It was really hard to watch that one video where they made that 8 year old cry.
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May 9, 2013 14:28
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So what I've learned from the last few pages is that pubbies tend to have a self-fufilling prophecy regarding goons in thus that they hate goons because goons 'ruin it all' but they end up provoking that by throwing themselves at said goon factions. Basically their hate gives us power.
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May 9, 2013 15:11
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It's not really about age or crying. Those kids crying are usually the same ones screaming about "niggers" and "faggots" up to the point where they realize it doesn't stop the griefers. I agree with Seg there isn't really moral divide with the types of griefing, just the level of humor one gets from it. I just think the reactions to the clever griefs or those aimed at tryhards are far funnier. Segmentation Fault posted:Fair enough. If it's about a taste in humor, I can't really touch you. Don't be silly Seg, you can touch me any time you want. 
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Bait and Swatch posted:It's not really about age or crying. Those kids crying are usually the same ones screaming about "niggers" and "faggots" up to the point where they realize it doesn't stop the griefers. I agree with Seg there isn't really moral divide with the types of griefing, just the level of humor one gets from it. I just think the reactions to the clever griefs or those aimed at tryhards are far funnier. And I'm totally aware bby 
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Ineffiable posted:So what I've learned from the last few pages is that pubbies tend to have a self-fufilling prophecy regarding goons in thus that they hate goons because goons 'ruin it all' but they end up provoking that by throwing themselves at said goon factions. The funny thing is that goons didn't even enter EVE to become a dominant force or anything, but the results are pretty clear.
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I don't find people crying funny, not because I feel bad for them, but because its really pathetic and depressing and I'd rather hear them be angry and mockable than depressing and pitiable. This is a bit of an old request, but does anyone have a link to the video of some kid flipping his poo poo over chocolate milk? I can't remember if it was an actual kid or just somebody pretending. I wanna say it was during a HL2DM game
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death .cab for qt posted:I don't find people crying funny, not because I feel bad for them, but because its really pathetic and depressing and I'd rather hear them be angry and mockable than depressing and pitiable. This one? I remembered seeing it after you mentioned it, so I went and found it in my favourites from years ago.
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Ineffiable posted:So what I've learned from the last few pages is that pubbies tend to have a self-fufilling prophecy regarding goons in thus that they hate goons because goons 'ruin it all' but they end up provoking that by throwing themselves at said goon factions. Through Power, we gain Victory Through Victory, our chains are broken...
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MFerris91 posted:This one? I remembered seeing it after you mentioned it, so I went and found it in my favourites from years ago. I remember a lot more screaming, but that seems the same. I guess it isn't griefing but at least it involves a screaming child 
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Cojawfee posted:I personally might draw the line at making children cry. Anyone that sounds over 12 is fair game and all, because preteens and teenagers need to be brought down a peg.
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May 9, 2013 23:26
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So have you guys figured out the limits of the html in the Age of Washu chat yet? Can you base64 encode images to display? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8499633/display-base64-image-in-html
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May 10, 2013 01:40
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So far we've only been able to make it display images from the game's files
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May 10, 2013 02:53
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base64 actually encodes the image file itself inline. Probably can't do too much in one chat line, but give this a try and see if it works: <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhJgAZAKIGAP/MmZn/ZmbMM8yZZv///wAAAP///wAAACH5BAEAAAYALAAAAAAmABkAAAOZaLrc/jBKFWqdONogSClEJhob54FiGTxqR7xZ+V0MJ9zVrU+l8L2qYEnSewFxwkphyNq4CIKkUrncOJA5XVQ6SzKw0nBlQC4PFjituGQeAN5w9FbcNsPvdwVYWMb7/wB6YX2AhXEGcyqEhoyBiRaLjYyIj2SSl45bkZiGelucnJ5RoJI0WqSGNgKiN6hvOklaOqRrsraya0kJADs=" />
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It removed my name from the chat box but then every thing else was still there. yqEhoyBi is the las bit that fits into the chat box.
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May 10, 2013 03:50
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So the chat box has a 255 character limit. Try this:code:
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Alright, I had to redraw it in 4 colours and shave off a third of the pixels, but this comes in just over 200 characters, it should work as proof of concept: <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhHgAUAJEAAA0NBYLqNv///9IBACH5BAAAAAAALAAAAAAeABQAAAJOhI9pwer7AGNCxDOrm6GKEHGWxJXd95SeWZKgYn7sC7bIjON3zr9Jf0nNghcWsWhLDJbMZYijbEoHTx+geYQ1skFTNufqiWvjcbiMTs8KADs="> edit: what the gently caress am i doing with my life
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May 10, 2013 04:14
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Neither worked, came out blank
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Third World Reggin posted:Neither worked, came out blank Have you tried iframes? JS? Does it use webkit for GUI(called chromium, berkelium ...)? Really tempted to grab the game just to see what can be done. Best case would be redirecting everyone's chat gui element to last measure.
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No that would be dumb. Best case would be embedding a script that plays loud baby crying sounds for a few seconds after a randomized multiple minute delay but is otherwise invisible. Just imagine the reactions from both players and staff. E: or just embed fartscroll.js, but that would be pretty obvious bucketmouse fucked around with this message at 08:08 on May 10, 2013 |
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Crossposted from the relevant thread for a different story from Age of Wushu. In AoW, movement skills like the ability to run up walls and the quick ground dash are tradeable drops from instances. The ground dash, Wild Goose Flying Skill (affectionately "Goose step" or just "Goose"), is one of the most desirable skills that drops relatively uncommonly from the first major instance in the game. The good old goon "Goose Scam" involves a bait-and-switch where you offer to sell Goose Step for a too-good-to-be-true price and instead send via Cash on Demand another skill altogether (Whirlwind Step, a common and all-but-valueless item) that unfortunately shares an icon with the Goose Step manual. We've gone over the Jianghu Jailtime stuff before - you gain infamy any time you kill someone illegitimately. If you register a player as a "blood enemy" you're able to place a bounty on them any time they have infamy, regardless of whether or not they've actually engaged you.* * Remember the SanguineMoon guy who had a shitfit about a goon stealing ~his anime catgirl artwork~ that was actually stolen? We jailed him for 5 hours last night with this method.  DreadLlama posted:Someone is mad at me and I don't know why. Can you tell me what happened? One of our dear comrades scammed this guy out of 1 Ding (a fair bit of money for the average player) then proceeded to use said funds as a bounty to have him jailed for 5 real-time hours. All within the rules of the game.
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One ding is a fair amount of money for anyone. A solid twenty goons got their accounts frozen over ten ding.
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So you're saying he wasn't happy with his fish?  More seriously, you're telling us that after the catgirl scandal he was still willing to do buisness with you guys?  Or did he just not draw that particular connection?
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BigPVPness is a guild that seems to be made of players that joined long after that point.
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Something like an hour after BigPVPnes formed I threw three of their members off Tang falls. That's all I remember about that guild at all.Keeshhound posted:So you're saying he wasn't happy with his fish? Probably should have clarified - that was a badly-placed footnote meant as an example of our jailing antics. The guy in the screenshots isn't Jinhu-Morote and is unaffiliated with SanguineMoon. You would think people would learn to check their CoDs before blindly accepting them but to be fair goons make up some of the most prolific and active traders in the game. I think a lot of people are also unaware of the fact that they're not protected from this kind of scam by the GMs.
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Enallyniv posted:One of our dear comrades scammed this guy out of 1 Ding (a fair bit of money for the average player) then proceeded to use said funds as a bounty to have him jailed for 5 real-time hours. I would really prefer not to get drawn into playing yet another MMO, but I have to be sure - is scamming allowed within the rules of the game? Has anybody ever gotten banned from it?
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Dreggon posted:I would really prefer not to get drawn into playing yet another MMO, but I have to be sure - is scamming allowed within the rules of the game? Has anybody ever gotten banned from it? Mystic Mongol posted:One ding is a fair amount of money for anyone. A solid twenty goons got their accounts frozen over ten ding. Sounds like scamming isn't allowed, while pretty much anything else underhanded is.
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They got frozen since snail china wrote a script to freeze gold farmers. It froze almost everyone. Scamming is allowed as far as we know it. People can't find any rules against it and no one has been banned for it. Buyer beware.
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The official response was if you get scammed through COD tough luck since there's already a much safer way to trade with meeting the person.
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Third World Reggin posted:They got frozen since snail china wrote a script to freeze gold farmers. It froze almost everyone. Yes, but when Delamore, guild merchant prince, scams ten ding from a gold seller, and then Delamore and everyone he'd been trading money with have their accounts frozen? I think we can draw a causal relation as to why they thought there was purchased ding.  Fine, fine scam and all, and eventually the GMs unfroze the accounts. But there were consequences to our crimes.
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Mystic Mongol posted:Fine, fine scam and all, and eventually the GMs unfroze the accounts. But there were consequences to our crimes.
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Machai posted:Seems more like there were consequences to the goldfarmer's "scams", not yours. Goons got frozen because it happened to be dirty money. To be honest, no one is quite sure how the accounts got flagged, because most of the goons that got frozen were just prolific traders, so they'd, at best, be second or third-hand recipients of money bought from gold sellers. Either way, Snail's team is really bad at catching/preventing gold selling or account selling or any of the myriad real money transactions that are against the ToS, unless it's gotten better since I stopped playing.
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Can you not just mouse over the item in the CoD mail and see what it is? It is simply a case of them being too lazy to check the item, right? Sounds like shades of the old Diablo 2 scam where someone would offer to sell you a Harlequin Crest ("Shako") for a good price. The item looked like a standard cap, but colored green. They would then swap it out for a cap with an emerald in it (which would turn it green) and hope you didn't spot the swap. If you just moused over the item before you clicked Accept Trade, you would notice the scam. (At least until someone made a hack so that you could put an item in the trade window, gently caress with your connection, remove the item, and it'd leave a picture of the item in the trade box on the other guys client even after you removed it.)
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Zaodai posted:Can you not just mouse over the item in the CoD mail and see what it is? It is simply a case of them being too lazy to check the item, right? Right.
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During christmas vendors in WoW sell gift wrappings you can use on items (anything from "epic loot" to worthless junk) to turn them into presents. WoW also has a CoD mail system. I'm sure you can guess the rest.
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Poil posted:During christmas vendors in WoW sell gift wrappings you can use on items (anything from "epic loot" to worthless junk) to turn them into presents. WoW also has a CoD mail system. I'm sure you can guess the rest.
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