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Stoat posted:I'm dumb, why would being made immune to Rubella be a bad thing? Wacko conspiracy theorists on both sides of the aisle are often terrified of vaccines as a way for shadow government/Illuminati to test biological weapons on them, or insert mind control agents, or inflict autism on them or whatever brand of crazy you fancy.
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Ahahahaha Dees... oh to live in your mind for a minute.
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Don't forget about Obama: the first 100 days written by SA's very own The New Zorker (long but awesome).
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CommieGIR posted:What. The. gently caress. You're in luck! Dees self deported to Scandinavia years ago but alas his new overloads have taken to unlocking his door (once maybe more) and he has still not sought the psychiatric help he needs.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:You're in luck! Dees self deported to Scandinavia years ago but alas his new overloads have taken to unlocking his door (once maybe more) and he has still not sought the psychiatric help he needs. The best part about that is he fled to Sweden because he thought the CIA was trying to steal his bike.
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Autumncomet posted:Is there a link to the thread this was in? Phone posting. No I can't find the whole thread I'm afraid (a shame). To find just that I just remembered you can type "you are now immune from rubella, Obama" in to google and it's the first link.
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ShadowCatboy posted:Holy poo poo. You guys remember the trailer Glenn Beck's "Agenda 21"? Just found an excerpt for it on Amazon and no surprise, it's batshit insane: In two days I graduate with my Juris Doctor and Master of Urban Planning degrees. Finally I can go out in the world and begin to implement Agenda 21 by shoving old shirtless men into furnaces, apparently.  x 1000
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Stoat posted:I'm dumb, why would being made immune to Rubella be a bad thing? Since the guy is continually praising the free market I thought it might be a reference to universal healthcare being socialism and this being his kryptonite. Like how right-wingers think muslims are deathly afraid of/repealed like vampires by bacon rather than simply don't eat it. But it could be an anti-vaccination thing as has already been mentioned, I'm pretty sure there's a conspiracy theory about mind controlling substances in vaccinations so it could go either way.
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Axetrain posted:No I can't find the whole thread I'm afraid (a shame). To find just that I just remembered you can type "you are now immune from rubella, Obama" in to google and it's the first link. The full thread is here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3052528 There was also a front page goldmine: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/comedy-goldmine/capitalism-last-days.php The best way to find either is to google "last days of capitalism" and they'll be the first two hits. Van Kraken fucked around with this message at 04:44 on May 10, 2013 |
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Puntification posted:Since the guy is continually praising the free market I thought it might be a reference to universal healthcare being socialism and this being his kryptonite. Like how right-wingers think muslims are deathly afraid of/repealed like vampires by bacon rather than simply don't eat it. But it could be an anti-vaccination thing as has already been mentioned, I'm pretty sure there's a conspiracy theory about mind controlling substances in vaccinations so it could go either way. The anti-vaccination garbage spans the entire spectrum of tinfoil hat wearing retardedness. My pharmacy was doing flu shots, shingles shots and MMR shots. We had a few people that insisted the government put nanobots in them to make them want to shop more  . I've also heard "I don't do vaccines it causes autism, that's how I caught my autism." This person had a lot of diseases, none of them affected communication or cognitive function. I've had plenty of idiots use "they had mercury in them that's why I am not book smart."It makes me sad  , gently caress whoever started all this anti-vaccination crap.
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Azuth0667 posted:The anti-vaccination garbage spans the entire spectrum of tinfoil hat wearing retardedness. My pharmacy was doing flu shots, shingles shots and MMR shots. We had a few people that insisted the government put nanobots in them to make them want to shop more Part of me thinks we should sympathise with them because it's generally a fantasy to regain some illusion of control after a bad turn in life and maybe believing in a conspiracy is less upsetting than the random, cruelty of existence but then I remember that not vaccinating their kids ends up with deadly viral infections resurging and people dying as a result and I think no actually gently caress them because intent doesn't really matter that much when they are making life worse for everyone around them.
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Jacobin posted:Ahahahaha Dees... oh to live in your mind for a minute. It's only 54 seconds, but I think it's close enough.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthgXpWDv6A
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Puntification posted:Part of me thinks we should sympathise with them because it's generally a fantasy to regain some illusion of control after a bad turn in life and maybe believing in a conspiracy is less upsetting than the random, cruelty of existence but then I remember that not vaccinating their kids ends up with deadly viral infections resurging and people dying as a result and I think no actually gently caress them because intent doesn't really matter that much when they are making life worse for everyone around them. The justice system already ruled that parents can't refuse life saving medical treatment for their children on religious basis a long time ago so I don't know why they let this poo poo fly. If I remember right this was a bunch of wealthy people doing this and advocating for it right? E: Actually it wasn't that long a go Planned Parenthood of Central Missouri v Danforth, 428 US 52, 74(1976, Prince v Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 321 US 158, 170(1944), and Jehovah's Witnesses v King County Hospital Unit No. 1, 278 F Supp 488 (WD Wash 1967), affirmed per curiam 390 US 598(1968). 50 years is long enough for these morons to know better. Azuth0667 fucked around with this message at 13:30 on May 10, 2013 |
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Puntification posted:Like how right-wingers think muslims are deathly afraid of/repealed like vampires by bacon rather than simply don't eat it. I love this so much. The best part is that from what I've read and heard, Allah is actually a pretty understanding and forgiving dude when it comes to poo poo he forbids. So like, if it was "eat pig or starve" you could totally eat pig as a devout Muslim and Allah would be cool about it. But no, clearly if some bigot dangles it in front of you or throws it at you or some poo poo you won't get to go to heaven or whatever. Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 14:40 on May 10, 2013 |
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Azuth0667 posted:The justice system already ruled that parents can't refuse life saving medical treatment for their children on religious basis a long time ago so I don't know why they let this poo poo fly. If I remember right this was a bunch of wealthy people doing this and advocating for it right? Yeah but if I'm not mistaken, these famous cases have involved predictable imminent death. Preventative care, against a disease that they're relatively unlikely to contract in any event, is a whole different ballgame, and it's hard to know where the line would be drawn. How about legally mandated circumcisions for the increased HIV resistance? In the US your prior probability of getting HIV is low enough that it is far too extreme. But where is the line drawn? We would need some real legislation, not just a court ruling: that way you can get a panel of health experts to testify before Congress and weigh the harms and benefits appropriately. I wouldn't mind seeing this happen, but it hasn't.
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Van Kraken posted:The full thread is here: I'd never seen that thread, but it reminded me of this one: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2988948
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Orange Devil posted:I love this so much. The best part is that from what I've read and heard, Allah is actually a pretty understanding and forgiving dude when it comes to poo poo he forbids. So like, if it was "eat pig or starve" you could totally eat pig as a devout Muslim and Allah would be cool about it. But no, clearly if some bigot dangles it in front of you or throws it at you or some poo poo you won't get to go to heaven or whatever. They really cannot comprehend how merciful Allah really is, it's like they take crazy pills or something. I mean even Ramadan is pretty lenient, between pregnant women, the infirm, and small children getting passes there's still plenty of excuses ie being a fire fighter and needing to hydrate. It's all spirit and mostly letter.
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Seoinin posted:I'm reminded of those short stories people were writing in LF right before the 2008 election. "There came the jangling of chains and 'grillz' as Obama and his gang of street toughs ascended the steps of the capitol. The pResident elect began to speak, while his posse popped and locked in unison behind him."
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McNerd posted:Yeah but if I'm not mistaken, these famous cases have involved predictable imminent death. Preventative care, against a disease that they're relatively unlikely to contract in any event, is a whole different ballgame, and it's hard to know where the line would be drawn. The logic behind widespread vaccine administration revolves around two important concepts: herd immunity and airborne transmission. A lot of the diseases that are vaccinated against are spread via airborne transmission, which is far easier than the fluid contact that HIV entails. This means if you put an unprotected person in close contact with someone who has the disease, they stand a noticeable risk of catching the disease. With an immune system that isn't prepped to fight the disease, the disease course is also likely to be much more severe. That might raise the question in your mind of "well, if people who don't want the vaccine, reject it with full foreknowledge of the risks it entails, what's the problem?" The problem is that a lot of these nasty diseases are caused by microorganisms that engage in (relatively) high genetic mutation rates. High mutation rates are dangerous for organisms like us, but for microorganisms that have a high rate of reproduction, it's a very effective adaptive strategy. These mutation rates can affect the capacity of the immune system to recognize and/or fight the microorganism, even if primed with a prior vaccine. Unvaccinated people, once infected with the disease, give these microorganisms an opportunity to reproduce and mutate, potentially developing mutations that would make the disease much more dangerous to even vaccinated people. Long story short, people who refuse vaccinations are actually influencing the capacity of vaccinated people to fight these diseases, and these diseases are goddamn dangerous. The more people that go unvaccinated, the greater risk that a virulent form sweeps through society. HIV is very dangerous too, and general perceptions about it (it's a homosexual/minority/poor disease is the big one) have impaired our public education/prevention/treatment efforts, but many of the diseases vaccinated against could be much more easily and quickly transmitted, which is the worrying factor. With that in mind, there's a very real and strong public health interest argument in favor of mass vaccinations.
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LP97S posted:They really cannot comprehend how merciful Allah really is, it's like they take crazy pills or something. I mean even Ramadan is pretty lenient, between pregnant women, the infirm, and small children getting passes there's still plenty of excuses ie being a fire fighter and needing to hydrate. It's all spirit and mostly letter. On top of that there is Taqiyya which permits you to lie about your faith to live/survive/avoid torture/whatever rather than suffer and die while pronouncing your faith. If you come upon someone and they greet you in peace you are to not harm them regardless of circumstance. Its not just crazy pills when people say things like this, its a double serving and a madness chaser.
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keiran_helcyan posted:You just don't see enough graphs with time on the vertical axis and an unlabeled/unmarked horizontal axis. I laughed way harder at this than I should have.
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Barudak posted:On top of that there is Taqiyya which permits you to lie about your faith to live/survive/avoid torture/whatever rather than suffer and die while pronouncing your faith. If you come upon someone and they greet you in peace you are to not harm them regardless of circumstance. Its not just crazy pills when people say things like this, its a double serving and a madness chaser. I remember waaay back in the day when Pam Gellar found out about Taqiyya and had an absurd yearlong meltdown about how ISLAM SEZ IT'S AN ACT OF FAITH TO LIE TO INFIDELLLLLS! Man I miss when Sadly, No didn't suck.
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McNerd posted:Ingredients include "Aspartame," "MSG"? I guess we have to make sure the children's blood tastes good enough for the modern calorie-conscious First Lady. And Bovine Fetal Serum, not the far more commonly used Fetal Bovine Serum. 
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Seoinin posted:I remember waaay back in the day when Pam Gellar found out about Taqiyya and had an absurd yearlong meltdown about how ISLAM SEZ IT'S AN ACT OF FAITH TO LIE TO INFIDELLLLLS! Interestingly, Fox News basically operates on the same principles. They even have an appeals court ruling to confirm it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre
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LP97S posted:They really cannot comprehend how merciful Allah really is, it's like they take crazy pills or something. I mean even Ramadan is pretty lenient, between pregnant women, the infirm, and small children getting passes there's still plenty of excuses ie being a fire fighter and needing to hydrate. It's all spirit and mostly letter. I saw a great Television PSA in Morocco (although it was airing on a Middle Eastern satellite channel) a few years back during Ramadan regarding this. It showed a young guy riding the bus and walking around the city mid-day eating food and drinking water, and a bunch of people giving him dirty looks and murmuring insults at him. He finally arrives at his destination, which turns out to be a hospital where he is donating his blood. The commercial ended with some text in Arabic saying something along the lines of "be good to each other and don't judge."
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McNerd posted:Yeah but if I'm not mistaken, these famous cases have involved predictable imminent death. Preventative care, against a disease that they're relatively unlikely to contract in any event, is a whole different ballgame, and it's hard to know where the line would be drawn. The last I heard the line was drawn at parental religious affiliations not being allowed to endanger the child's welfare. In doing research on the subject there are cases where its horribly twisted so that "prayer" can be considered treatment for medically treatable diseases. I have a feeling legislation against this gets suppressed because the right would lose their religious fundamentalist support if they did do it. That's excluding the chance getting  to do anything beneficial for public health without screaming bloody murder over "evil obamacare."
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Axetrain posted:Bill O'Reilly talking about what a huge scandal the BENGHAZI cover up is right now. Mentions that MSNBC spent no time covering it today and CNN only 17 minutes so their viewers are just low info losers who would rather pay attention to wastes of time like upcoming state gay marriage bills and some murders in Cleveland than whats really important, BENGHAZI! Also MSNBC is obviously just the media pawns of Obama and the Democrats ( loving NPR of all places (Diane Rehm) covered it for over an hour today so all these assholes screaming about a "liberal media cover up" should shut the gently caress up. The whining and victimization stuff is annoying as hell. Man this poo poo gets old.
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) and they are complicit in the biggest scandal in American history. But don't worry folks him and Hannity will be spending 2 hours tonight discussing the OBAMA/HILLARY BENGHAZI coverup.
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Radish posted:Pretty much everything Republicans complain endlessly about from high taxes, to their freedom of religion being infringed on, to welfare queens stealing their tax dollars, to blue states being the parasites of the red states, to endless voter fraud, to evil unions stealing from honest job creators, to birth control causing abortions, to environmental and labor regulations being outdated since we know better now than to do bad things, etc is an easily dis-proven fallacy but it doesn't stop them so look forward to BENGHAZI BENGHAZI BENGHAZI and the Liberal Media Coverup until they find something else to complain about. They're always complaining. They had 6-8 years of conservative Governance, where GWB got everything he wanted green lit and rubber stamped with no opposition at all, and I recall them whining and bitching the whole time about liberals and the media even back then. It's so hard to take their grievances seriously, even when they're right, because they piss and moan about so much that the legitimate stuff gets lost. I guess if I complained about 100 things at random, one of them would be true just by accident, but they take that one time as proof of a liberal conspiracy and consistently ignore the other 99 things that were bullshit.
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Azuth0667 posted:The justice system already ruled that parents can't refuse life saving medical treatment for their children on religious basis a long time ago so I don't know why they let this poo poo fly. If I remember right this was a bunch of wealthy people doing this and advocating for it right? Well I can't attest to America but in the UK it's largely a middle class phenomenom. Unlike the US there aren't lobbying groups as such but there was, in the 90s or 00s, a huge media-led scandal about MMR causing autism (started by a doctor who had just co-incidentally patented separate measles, mumps and rubella vaccinnations) and the prime minister at the time refusing to declare whether his kids had been vaccinated, leading to public confidence being hugely undermined. The government was also at the time trying to turn the health service into a service provider offering consumer choice rather than treating patients and focussing on public health, which can't have helped matters. Orange Devil posted:I love this so much. The best part is that from what I've read and heard, Allah is actually a pretty understanding and forgiving dude when it comes to poo poo he forbids. So like, if it was "eat pig or starve" you could totally eat pig as a devout Muslim and Allah would be cool about it. But no, clearly if some bigot dangles it in front of you or throws it at you or some poo poo you won't get to go to heaven or whatever. It seems like a surreal chinese whispers game of racists' trying to understand other cultures, where third-hand retellings of de-contextualised Koran passages result in people expressing anti-muslim sentiments by stapling pork sausages to the American flag with no sense of irony or the inherent ridiculousness of their actions.
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I love this whole idea that the left wing media won't cover Benghazi and is otherwise complicit in some sort of cover up, as if there's a shortage and an overall dearth of journalists hungry for fame and fortune who wouldn't love to become the next Woodward and/or Bernstein.
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Jacobin posted:Ahahahaha Dees... oh to live in your mind for a minute. Living a minute in his mind would be living one hundred years of torment.
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Jacobin posted:Ahahahaha Dees... oh to live in your mind for a minute. Got you covered. 
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So what we found out was that there was a screw-up with the talking points. Whoop dee doo. I don't understand the idea that Obama "covered up" the fact that it was a terrorist attack by saying it was a protest over the video in for political gain and to avoid embarassment. The idea that people died in a protest over a video is still just as embarrassing. In fact, the idea started not with Susan Rice, but the right, who wanted to tie together that tweet from the Cairo embassy, Benghazi, and Obama the "Apologizer-in-Chief." So why did the CIA talking points seem to take cues from the right?
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I think they really wanted Benghazi to be Obama's Iranian Revolution/Hostage Crisis. Now that they lost they are just dragging it out for maximum outrage and obstruction.Fearless_Decoy posted:It almost seems like they're trying really hard to do what kinda sorta worked with Bill Clinton in the 90's, shifting more to the supposed lies and cover up than the actual event. At least that's what I thought after listening to 2 minutes of Hannity's radio show today. That's definitely in there, too. Apparently Dick Cheney said we should subpoena Hillary over Benghazi. Open those bloodgates, Cheney; you have alot to answer for yourself. Mc Do Well fucked around with this message at 03:19 on May 11, 2013 |
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