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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Hey, look at that, the Verizon Xoom is finally getting jelly bean.

http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-motorola-xoom-owners-receiving-jelly-bean-soak-test-invites

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

zer0spunk posted:

I would pay any price tag for this:

14 inch display (even 13 would be close enough) to be able to properly display a 8.5x11 page without scaling. .
ideally 1200p, higher would be nicer at that size, but 1440 or 1600p isn't necessary
same profile as current gen transformers, but a little thinner and lighter can't hurt
wacom digitizer/input
front firing speakers
arm (i don't need x86)

and then the usual stuff
sd built in to tab, bonus if it has full or micro usb too
dockable keyboard with usb3 and sd
12-14 hour battery
no fan, little heat

It could run ios, it could run android, it could run winRT, it doesn't matter. It just has to hit all those checkpoints. As it stands now, the closest thing I've found has been the tegra 3 transformer/dock which I've had since end of dec '11 (201, and then a 700). I just hope eventually this magical unicorn modular device I want is purchasable from someone, asus or not.

The ATIV Smart PC is x86 but ticks many boxes on that list. Obviously the screen resolution is the main problem.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001


Wow, only 9 months since the wifi version got it, and 11 months since Jelly Bean was announced.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


kitten smoothie posted:

Wow, only 9 months since the wifi version got it, and 11 months since Jelly Bean was announced.

Still kinda cool that the original Android tablet is getting updated to the latest (named at least) version.

Binge
Feb 23, 2001

My Xoom feels like the slowest device on earth. I don't know if it actually is slower, or just the perception of it now that I have a Note II and a Nexus 7. I hope this update breathes some new life into it.

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

Binge posted:

My Xoom feels like the slowest device on earth. I don't know if it actually is slower, or just the perception of it now that I have a Note II and a Nexus 7.
My Note II ruined my TF700 for me as well. :(

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Binge posted:

My Xoom feels like the slowest device on earth. I don't know if it actually is slower, or just the perception of it now that I have a Note II and a Nexus 7. I hope this update breathes some new life into it.

Well if you believe Quadrant's benchmarks to have any validity, the Xoom scores about 1820-1960 or so while the Nexus 7 scores 3500-3700 and the Note II scores 5000-5200. So it is quite slow in raw power compared to your other devices, but then it's also plenty older too.

Loucks
May 21, 2007

It's incwedibwe easy to suck my own dick.

What is the go-to case for the Nexus 10? Otterbox doesn't seem to make one, and I just wouldn't feel comfortable throwing it in a bag without any protection.

edit: This one looks pretty good. Anyone have one?

Loucks fucked around with this message at 00:38 on May 12, 2013

Hughmoris
Apr 21, 2007
Let's go to the abyss!
Has there been much talk of a refresh to the Nexus 10?

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

Loucks posted:

What is the go-to case for the Nexus 10? Otterbox doesn't seem to make one, and I just wouldn't feel comfortable throwing it in a bag without any protection.

edit: This one looks pretty good. Anyone have one?

You might consider carefully placing it into a bag instead of throwing it.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
I checked out other Nook HD Plus tablets in-store and it turns out that yeah, they aren't so super laggy after all. After figuring out how to change wallpapers on them, I determined it was the whale live wallpaper that must have been causing the super lagginess on the previous tablet I used. I didn't think of it at the time since the Nook HD I used was running a live wallpaper as well but it seems that the whale one in particular takes a huge and noticable toll.

That said any old image viewer apps that don't really use the CPU do take a big hit on the high res screen of the HD Plus when doing transitions and such, but anything newer is fine.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Hughmoris posted:

Has there been much talk of a refresh to the Nexus 10?

There was talk several months ago that someone was running around a tech conference with updated specs but the exact same form factor. I would guess a nice strong quad-core and maybe and update to the ram and storage. Wait for next week wednesday and there is a decent chance there will be an update.

z06ck
Dec 22, 2010

Hughmoris posted:

Has there been much talk of a refresh to the Nexus 10?

Not really, as there shouldn't be. Expect an updated one in it's yearly cycle, so November.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

z06ck posted:

Not really, as there shouldn't be. Expect an updated one in it's yearly cycle, so November.

Luckily most of the stuttering on the N10 is related to lovely optimization and not a lack of raw power. Chrome has gotten consistently better on my N10 the last few months.

gaxsezu
Jan 28, 2008
I got a Note 10.1 after looking around for my first Android tablet a few days ago. The expandable mini SD slot was a pretty huge plus for me, and I'm not usually one to worry about displays as long as they're "good enough" so I figured 1280x800 would be more than fine. After using this for a few days, it's not.

I'm returning this and now I'm back to looking at the Nexus 10 and the TF700. I'd mostly be using this for browsing, HD media, and some gaming. Right now I'm leaning towards the Nexus 10, but I wanted to post to ask if there was a reason I shouldn't buy the Nexus so I don't get the wrong thing again. So, good choice?

edit - also, is there an accessory that would allow me to use this extra 64GB mini SD card I have now?

gaxsezu fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 13, 2013

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

I know this is anti-tf700 territory. But the tablet has micro sd and the dock/keyboard has a sd slot and USB. You can also get a USB adapter for the tablet itself that could probably read some sdcard reader. The USB slot reads my 2 tb HD. Otherwise there's plenty of apps to take or stream media from your PC and such.


Despite the faults the tf700 is a pretty cool piece of gear. Especially with the dock. Screen is amazing as well.

Nostalgia4Dogges fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 13, 2013

gaxsezu
Jan 28, 2008
I don't really have a bias towards either one personally. I'm not planning on getting the dock/keyboard, and while the microSD WAS pretty tempting the Nexus 10's better performance, screen, and OS update schedule tipped me towards the Nexus. Thanks for the reply though.

edit - actually I'm an idiot, this is the wrong thread

Syrinxx
Mar 28, 2002

Death is whimsical today

gaxsezu posted:

I'm returning this and now I'm back to looking at the Nexus 10 and the TF700. I'd mostly be using this for browsing, HD media, and some gaming. Right now I'm leaning towards the Nexus 10, but I wanted to post to ask if there was a reason I shouldn't buy the Nexus so I don't get the wrong thing again. So, good choice?
The TF700 has a gorgeous screen and the ability to use the really nice keyboard+dock but the stock OS is laggy and slow. If you plan to put a custom ROM on it like CleanROM (there are also official CM10 nightlies) you should be fine, but the Tegra3 is pretty long in the tooth.

gaxsezu
Jan 28, 2008
I was all hyped to root when I got my GS3, but looking further into it I never really needed to after installing Nova. The TF700 did seem to be getting a little long in the tooth as well. The Nexus display is just as good, if not better, than the TF700's, no? I'm starting to feel better about my decision. Thanks Syrinxx.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
Yeah I'd say you might want to wait for the next Transformer to be released, which will probably be in a couple of months.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

gaxsezu posted:

I was all hyped to root when I got my GS3, but looking further into it I never really needed to after installing Nova. The TF700 did seem to be getting a little long in the tooth as well. The Nexus display is just as good, if not better, than the TF700's, no? I'm starting to feel better about my decision. Thanks Syrinxx.
The Nexus 10 has a better display than any tablet. It's also the most powerful Android tablet available. If you really want to use Micro SD cards or USB drives or whatever, you can buy a $2 USB OTG adapter cable.


Install Gentoo posted:

Yeah I'd say you might want to wait for the next Transformer to be released, which will probably be in a couple of months.
And then however many months for Asus to figure out the hardware defects and release one that works properly.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Yeah the tf700 gets a lot better with the custom cromi kernel. It definitely can be a bit sluggish though without.

gaxsezu
Jan 28, 2008

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

The Nexus 10 has a better display than any tablet. It's also the most powerful Android tablet available. If you really want to use Micro SD cards or USB drives or whatever, you can buy a $2 USB OTG adapter cable.

no USB drives, just this micro SD card I now find myself with no tablet to use it in. I've been looking for an accessory that I could use to just plug the card into and use with the tablet but no luck so far. Something like this I guess? http://nexus10accessories.com/want-a-microsd-adapter-for-your-nexus-10/ Have you heard of any by any chance?

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players

gaxsezu posted:

no USB drives, just this micro SD card I now find myself with no tablet to use it in. I've been looking for an accessory that I could use to just plug the card into and use with the tablet but no luck so far. Something like this I guess? http://nexus10accessories.com/want-a-microsd-adapter-for-your-nexus-10/ Have you heard of any by any chance?
A failed Indiegogo project? You could do the same thing by using a $2 OTG adapter and a $5 USB Micro SD reader, which is all that project really is.

gaxsezu
Jan 28, 2008

Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:

A failed Indiegogo project? You could do the same thing by using a $2 OTG adapter and a $5 USB Micro SD reader, which is all that project really is.

excellent, thanks

Mill Town
Apr 17, 2006

So, my Nexus 10 is plugged in to the wall adapter it came with, and as I use it, it's losing charge, even though it says it's "charging". Is this normal? I could accept this if it charged in an hour or two when it was not in use, but it actually takes about 10 hours to charge fully when I'm not using it. Battery life is good once it's fully charged, but since the headphones make crackling noises when it's plugged in, and I have to keep it plugged in constantly at home so that I actually have some battery life when I'm on the go, it's kind of a pain in the rear end. Do any of these problems have a solution?

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!
Does anyone else have trouble syncing on certain networks? Both tablet and phone fail to sync on my workplace's WiFi for some reason, the latter instantly picking up new mail when put back onto 3g.

SlayVus
Jul 10, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Mill Town posted:

So, my Nexus 10 is plugged in to the wall adapter it came with, and as I use it, it's losing charge, even though it says it's "charging". Is this normal? I could accept this if it charged in an hour or two when it was not in use, but it actually takes about 10 hours to charge fully when I'm not using it. Battery life is good once it's fully charged, but since the headphones make crackling noises when it's plugged in, and I have to keep it plugged in constantly at home so that I actually have some battery life when I'm on the go, it's kind of a pain in the rear end. Do any of these problems have a solution?

Turn down your screen brightness. To actually use AND charge the Nexus 10 at the same time, you need to drop the brightness to like at least 1/4 max brightness. My mom's N10 does the same thing.

Kerbtree posted:

Does anyone else have trouble syncing on certain networks? Both tablet and phone fail to sync on my workplace's WiFi for some reason, the latter instantly picking up new mail when put back onto 3g.

They might be blocking access to the network that your devices sync to.

butt dickus
Jul 7, 2007

top ten juiced up coaches
and the top ten juiced up players
I just discovered a charging cable for the Nexus 10 that uses the pogo pins. The reviews say it charge faster, but it ends up being $25 after shipping and that's a little steep. Also it seems like it'd be inconvenient to use while it's charging. I'll wait for the official overpriced charging dock.

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!
Sorry, to clarify, I can use all the usual Google stuff, but I'm not getting any push notifications while on the wireless.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

gaxsezu posted:

no USB drives, just this micro SD card I now find myself with no tablet to use it in. I've been looking for an accessory that I could use to just plug the card into and use with the tablet but no luck so far. Something like this I guess? http://nexus10accessories.com/want-a-microsd-adapter-for-your-nexus-10/ Have you heard of any by any chance?

I funded this. Should be in my hands in July. Sounds like what you want. The USB OTG cable + usb adapter would work too, would just be a bit less streamlined.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Kerbtree posted:

Sorry, to clarify, I can use all the usual Google stuff, but I'm not getting any push notifications while on the wireless.

It's possible they may have the connection timeout down to a very low level or kill persistant connections.

If Google's C2D notifications are anything like activesync, they require a persistent connection back to the server so that the server can instantly notify of anything new. That connection is largely idle with occasional heartbeat messages to maintain it.

The networks you are on may be looking at all these dangling connections with no real traffic and chopping them off. Thus, you would never receive notifications even though you can otherwise access services just fine.

Kerbtree
Sep 8, 2008

BAD FALCON!
LAZY!
I've done a bit of reading and sent some email. Super-zealous firewall to try to keep students from trying it on with p2p. Oh, well. I'll see if I can talk them into opening one port for it.

gaxsezu
Jan 28, 2008

zer0spunk posted:

I funded this. Should be in my hands in July. Sounds like what you want. The USB OTG cable + usb adapter would work too, would just be a bit less streamlined.

That's EXACTLY the kind of thing I was looking for. drat.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

gaxsezu posted:

That's EXACTLY the kind of thing I was looking for. drat.

I would keep an eye on that project then. I can't imagine they won't be taking more orders once they start mass producing the thing.

IuniusBrutus
Jul 24, 2010

How are the Nexus 7 docks? I have aspirations of using one for light music/alarm duty.

Mogomra
Nov 5, 2005

simply having a wonderful time
I noticed 3 hairline cracks in my N7 screen out of the blue today. It's weird because they're in completely different spots and directions. Does this happen to N7's? Does anyone know if Asus will be cool about it with their manufacturers warranty, or am I hosed?

Googling around makes it seem like this sort of thing just happens to some people, but I haven't noticed any weirdness with the actual touch screen sensitivity, just random cracks out of nowhere.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


Have a Nexus 7 issue I'm trying to solve for my son. His suffered a broken screen a month or so after he bought it. He was using it with the borked screen for a bit but one day when he was home sick from school he was watching videos and decided to lock the screen orientation. He fell asleep and eventually the tablet went to sleep. When he tried to wake it back up the pattern lock was over part of the screen that won't take input and since it can't rotate because he can't access it.

I'm trying to unlock/factory flash it but since A) we didn't unlock the bootloader I can't access recovery and B) he didn't enable USB debugging before it broke. We're hoping to replace the screen sooner rather than later, but in the meantime he'd like his sweet, sweet Adventure Time fix. I'm googling around and hoping to figure out how to fix it via ADB, but if somebody can point me down the right rabbit hole, he'd be very appreciative.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007
To anybody who picked up a nook HD+, or was deeply considering it: Installing CM 10.1 on the emmc rather than running it off an SD card makes it a much better experience. Easily 5x faster and more usable.

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Tunga
May 7, 2004

Grimey Drawer

highme posted:

I'm trying to unlock/factory flash it but since A) we didn't unlock the bootloader I can't access recovery and B) he didn't enable USB debugging before it broke. We're hoping to replace the screen sooner rather than later, but in the meantime he'd like his sweet, sweet Adventure Time fix. I'm googling around and hoping to figure out how to fix it via ADB, but if somebody can point me down the right rabbit hole, he'd be very appreciative.
I'm not how much experience you have with this and this conversation is really more suited to the root through but I'll try to help. If you have further questions I'd suggest following up in that thread.

The first thing to decide is whether you care about any of the data on the device. If you do then you're probably in trouble because I can't think of a good way to get a backup of it with a locked bootloader, unrooted, and no USB debugging.

If you don't care about the data on it then this is going to be pretty simple:

1) Install Tools and USB Driver from the Android SDK. When it asks you which components you want, choose both items under "Tools", and "Google USB Driver" under "Extras".
2) Reboot the phone to the bootloader, connect it on USB, open a command prompt, and run ".\android-sdk\platform-tools\fastboot devices". Adjust the path as appropriate. Hopefully you get a response saying that it can see your device. If it can't you'll need to fiddle around with Device Manager a bit, deleting the phone and reconnecting it to get it to use the correct driver, or telling it manually to use the Google USB Driver (.\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver\android_winusb.inf).
3) Factory reset the device by running ".\android-sdk\platform-tools\fastboot format userdata

That's actually all you need if you just want to reset it. This is going to straight up delete every single thing on the device, including the virtual sdcard. So app data, music, photos, everything. There's actually no need to unlock the bootloader or root it since all you're trying to do is get back into the device. If you do want to do that at the same time then feel free to ask in the root thread and I'll throw up a quick guide for you.

Tunga fucked around with this message at 15:04 on May 14, 2013

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